[PASSED] Sensible Limits on Hunting

[Confederate People of the United States]

This is a seriously close vote, closer than any other I have ever seen.

[Belzia]

This is a seriously close vote, closer than any other I have ever seen.

I know, it's so tense.

[Confederate People of the United States]

My vote is winning by about a hundred. Man it could change overnight....

[Fengari]

I would've voted for this proposal, but it seems like it honestly puts the welfare of animals before humans. Yes, animals have feelings and they hurt, but I don't think they should be put before humans. I think if the proposer were to rewrite this proposal and revise key points, it would be a great thing to pass.

[Qvait]

Voting is rather close, and I am a supporter of this resolution. If people want meat, get it from chickens, cows, and pigs.

[The Dominion of Plebians]

I may be mistaken, but doesn't GA Resolution #66 already deal with this issue by granting the WA the power to restrict hunting to protect endangered species? This line in particular, "Should the WAESC restrict hunting of an endangered animal..." stands out in particular. As such, it sounds like this resolution may be redundant...

[Bears Armed]

I may be mistaken, but doesn't GA Resolution #66 already deal with this issue by granting the WA the power to restrict hunting to protect endangered species? This line in particular, "Should the WAESC restrict hunting of an endangered animal..." stands out in particular. As such, it sounds like this resolution may be redundant...

GA Resolution #66 mainly applies to species that have already become endangered, or that are on the verge of doing so: This proposal is aimed more at stopping their decline before they reach that stage... and, unlike #66, it would require protection of distinct stocks within each species (e.g. sub-species) rather than just of the species as a whole.

[New Atmora]

In New Atmora approximately half the population rely on hunting as a source of food, with the majority of the rest of the population hunting for sport. Hunted meat is also a significant sector of the Atmoran economy. We believe that we don't need our rights restricted by another nation's morals, and that it isn't the governments job to educate the public on an activity practised since the start of our nation's history. The people have by now made their own unofficial rules on when, what and how to hunt and the government accepts these rules as suitable for maintaining a ecosystem where no animal is threatened by extinction.

8. Urges member nations to ensure that any goods obtained by legal hunting within their borders are properly tested for health risks before being sold or consumed there.

We also disagree with the idea that meat should be tested, especially since the chemicals used can affect the flavour and character of the meat. Anyone buying meat that has been hunted should, in the government's opinion, have the common sense to ask the seller the date it was hunted, and should be able to tell by the look and smell of the meat if there are any serious problems with it.

Due to the reasons stated above, we vote against the resolution.

[Bears Armed]

In New Atmora approximately half the population rely on hunting as a source of food, with the majority of the rest of the population hunting for sport. Hunted meat is also a significant sector of the Atmoran economy. We believe that we don't need our rights restricted by another nation's morals, and that it isn't the governments job to educate the public on an activity practised since the start of our nation's history. The people have by now made their own unofficial rules on when, what and how to hunt and the government accepts these rules as suitable for maintaining a ecosystem where no animal is threatened by extinction.

And if that system is actually working properly then your government accepting those unofficial rules would count as a good enough way of it taking "expert advice" for it to be considered already in compliance with the relevant clause. Allowing for situations like that was one of the main reasons why I replaced the original "scientific" with the current "expert" in that clause.

8. Urges member nations to ensure that any goods obtained by legal hunting within their borders are properly tested for health risks before being sold or consumed there.

We also disagree with the idea that meat should be tested, especially since the chemicals used can affect the flavour and character of the meat. Anyone buying meat that has been hunted should, in the government's opinion, have the common sense to ask the seller the date it was hunted, and should be able to tell by the look and smell of the meat if there are any serious problems with it.

A clause that starts with "Urges" is only a suggestion rather than a binding command, on the first paw... and we didn't specify that the testing would have to be by chemical methods, neither: If your people are hrreally such experts on the matter that they "should be able to tell by the look and smell of the meat if there are any serious problems with it", then by letting them use their expertise you arguably would be doing as that clause suggests (too) anyhows.

[Esterwyn]

I feel that this takes away too much from nation's self-rule, their independence.

[Bears Armed]

I feel that this takes away too much from nation's self-rule, their independence.

New here, hr'rmm? if you think that this proposal is too much, then maybeso you'd better take a closer look at the passed resolutions too because as a WA member you're supposed to follow all of those -- except for the repealed ones, of course -- as well...

[Langock]

I feel that this takes away too much from nation's self-rule, their independence.

I agree with you, my nation prides itself with its gun rights, and freedom to hunt on your own land provided that you have enough to safely do so w/o endangering others (safe distance from dwellings), and have some means of hunting. We have voted against this resolution.

[Chiotia]

How much my country hunts is my business and not the business of the GA. Furthermore if the GA passes this tedious proposal then it could have terrible repercussions on many nations who economy is hunting based. Also if the GA is worried about the quality of the meat being exported then it is up to the receiving country to ensure that the product they are buying is up to code with its countries standards. In conclusion I and many other countries don't care about GA proposal unless it is an international issue. If its something the countries should handle then let them handle it.

[Abacathea]

How much my country hunts is my business and not the business of the GA. Furthermore if the GA passes this tedious proposal then it could have terrible repercussions on many nations who economy is hunting based. Also if the GA is worried about the quality of the meat being exported then it is up to the receiving country to ensure that the product they are buying is up to code with its countries standards. In conclusion I and many other countries don't care about GA proposal unless it is an international issue. If its something the countries should handle then let them handle it.

I can't imagine there are too many countries whose economic stability is contingent on hunting. That said if there are nations in that scenario unlikely as it may seem then this can only assist them in not depleting the hand that's feeding them.

[Chiotia]

The real world relevence of this isn't important. What is important is that it is my nation and my people that i believe have the right to hunt, personally, i never want to hear form the GA unless it is a serious international issue

[Chiotia]

The fact of the matter is that the GA setting limits on a nation's rights takes away their sovereignty.

[Separatist Peoples]

The fact of the matter is that the GA setting limits on a nation's rights takes away their sovereignty.

Welcome to being part of a supranational organization. By signing up, you accept the fact that your national sovereignty will be limited.

[Confederate People of the United States]

Voting is rather close, and I am a supporter of this resolution. If people want meat, get it from chickens, cows, and pigs.

Doves, Deer, Duck, Turkey. No, that is bullsh!t I want my meat. You cant make me eat that stuff all day. I mean, I like chicken but barbeque dove and deer burgers are delicious.

[WallaWakkaWalla]

Based on our review, this legislature does seem like a good balance between personal rights, national sovereignty, and international environmental concerns. As such, W3 will cast it's vote FOR this resolution.

[Retired WerePenguins]

Not pleased to report that my region seems to be 100% against this fine resolution. Never the less, in spite of the necessity of a delegate to consider the desires of the nations he represents, I wish you all the best in what looks like a very close vote before the assembly.

[Hirota]

I feel that this takes away too much from nation's self-rule, their independence.

Said every newbie nation ever when they see whatever resolution is at vote.

[Of Democratic States and Free Markets]

Great. It is going to pass and restrict liberty in the name of "moral decency".

[Bears Armed]

Furthermore if the GA passes this tedious proposal then it could have terrible repercussions on many nations who economy is hunting based.

Those nations not regulating hunting could have "terrible repercussions" on their economies too, because of course if you persistently over-hunt any stock of animals then after a while there aren't enough left to hunt anyway and that part of the economy collapses altogether.

Doves, Deer, Duck, Turkey. No, that is bullsh!t I want my meat. You cant make me eat that stuff all day. I mean, I like chicken but barbeque dove and deer burgers are delicious.

Agreed about deer burgers, both IC and OOC... so let's make sure that there are enough deer around to keep providing us with them in future, too, instead of eating the whole stock now and leaving none for later...

Based on our review, this legislature does seem like a good balance between personal rights, national sovereignty, and international environmental concerns. As such, W3 will cast it's vote FOR this resolution.

Thank you.

Not pleased to report that my region seems to be 100% against this fine resolution.

Why am I not very surprised by that news?

Never the less, in spite of the necessity of a delegate to consider the desires of the nations he represents, I wish you all the best in what looks like a very close vote before the assembly.

Thank you.

Great. It is going to pass and restrict liberty in the name of "moral decency".

The liberty to over-hunt stocks of animals; the liberty to deal in meat & other goods obtained by illegal hunting; the liberty to trade internationally in meats or other goods that are carrying diseases or parasites, and in meat or other goods taken from endangered stocks: Which of those liberties in particular do you consider worth defending, and why?

[Hirota]

Great. It is going to pass and restrict liberty in the name of "moral decency".

What a terribly short-sighted and naive perspective.

[Chiotia]

It doesn't matter if its shortsighted, what business is it of yours if my people hunt. The GA shouldn't be concerning itself with non-international issues.