PASSED: Liberate Democratia

[F1-Insanity]

We oppose this resolution which seeks to undo the rightful invasion and occupation that is now in place.

[Jedi-Gangsters]

The government of Lucky Number would like to protest against the malicious slander spouted by Jedi-Gangsters on this thread. Lucky Number has always upholded the right of every nation and region to self-determination and therefore resents the interference of Equinox, a known imperialist region, in affairs that only concern the region of Democratia. Furthermore, Lucky Number is deeply troubled by the discriminatory attitude of J-G. LN government policies should not be of any concern to uninvolved nations.

Really? I find your point of view interesting since you are not a native of Democratia, and are a member of The Axis of Evil. The group that invaded Democratia, password-protected the region and have held onto the region for over 85 days now. Have you asked the remaining native in Democratia how they feel about your actions? Do they support you? And I noticed that the native, Exilia and Colonies, is not endorsing the invader Delegate.

And how does invading a region, sealing it off and holding the region support the idea of self-determination?

[Kalibarr]

Resurrect a dead horse? Who knows. What I do I want is to Liberate Democratia. If you truly believe that Democratia was dying then at least give the region some respect and let it do so on its own. So, do you support the actions of The Axis of Evil, and the attempt to keep regions as trophies?

Trophy-keeping? That surely isn't against the instincts of defenders, as far as I have observed.

*cough*Empire of power*cough*

[Lucky Number]

I find this proposal to be a complete waste of time. I find that the Axis had the right to capture this region and use it for whatever purpose the Axis decides. If the natives of the region don't like it well tough, that is life.

As can be seen by the practically unanimous support of our delegate by the natives of Democratia, the password protection is desired by the local populace. Besides that, if Democratia wishes to be allied or affiliated to other regions it is a matter that should be of no concern to foreign nations.

[The Nuclear Robatics]

I find this proposal to be a complete waste of time. I find that the Axis had the right to capture this region and use it for whatever purpose the Axis decides. If the natives of the region don't like it well tough, that is life.

As can be seen by the practically unanimous support of our delegate by the natives of Democratia, the password protection is desired by the local populace. Besides that, if Democratia wishes to be allied or affiliated to other regions it is a matter that should be of no concern to foreign nations.

I agree with you

[F1-Insanity]

If you give your password out to those who would invade you, you deserve no better than it. The invasion was just punishment for the stupidity of democracy.

[Jedi-Gangsters]

I do not support what Grub did in Empire of Power. I am a defender, and it is not just to lump us all together. Since, The Axis of Evil are invaders and they have no issue when it comes to holding onto regions and destroying them, would it be fair to say all invaders would endorse such actions?

[Elktown]

Vote AGAINST this. Any nation has the right to invade a region. It is simply part of game rules. It this region could not defend itself. It is not deserving.

[Jedi-Gangsters]

As can be seen by the practically unanimous support of our delegate by the natives of Democratia, the password protection is desired by the local populace. Besides that, if Democratia wishes to be allied or affiliated to other regions it is a matter that should be of no concern to foreign nations.

From what I see, except for Exilia and Colonies, the WA nations in Democratia are all members of The Axis of Evil. Which means they are not natives of Democratia and logiccally they would support these actions.

[The Nuclear Robatics]

Vote AGAINST this. Any nation has the right to invade a region. It is simply part of game rules. It this region could not defend itself. It is not deserving.

I agree with everybody that opposes this completely stuipid porposal

[The Rich Port]

With a name like "The Axis of Evil", that region is just asking to get some kind of "rights infringement" from the World Assembly. I vote for this ruling, based on the fact the Axis is abusive of other regions and that they need curtailing. Oh, and Axis of Evil, try another, less-revealing name, like "Teh Axiss of Kittehs!!" or something.

[Manfigurut]

For a long time I was the delegate my region and had to use password-protection to prevent undesireable nations from entering our region. We have since refounded it, but I think that the option of liberating a region can be very easily abused by invaders or so-called defenders to impose their rule on others. Therefore I tend to oppose all Security Council resolutions, via my WA nation.

[Mutated Skeleton Lords]

I think that this decision prevents the progression of this game, therefore i vote against.

[Jedi-Gangsters]

For a long time I was the delegate my region and had to use password-protection to prevent undesireable nations from entering our region. We have since refounded it, but I think that the option of liberating a region can be very easily abused by invaders or so-called defenders to impose their rule on others. Therefore I tend to oppose all Security Council resolutions, via my WA nation.

Which is understandable. With the exception of one nation the rest of the nations in Democratia are members of The Axis of Evil. And you understand the importance of protecting ones region. Do you support what The Axis of Evil is doing to democratia?

[Leach Islands]

We at leach islands do not condemn the actions by the axis of evil, nor do we vote in favor of the Liberation. If a region is not prepared to defend itself, whether through allies or by it's own means then the inevitable will happen. They will be invaded.

[The Rich Port]

For a long time I was the delegate my region and had to use password-protection to prevent undesireable nations from entering our region. We have since refounded it, but I think that the option of liberating a region can be very easily abused by invaders or so-called defenders to impose their rule on others. Therefore I tend to oppose all Security Council resolutions, via my WA nation.

You've not heard of the word "investigation" or the phrase "fact-checking" before? Irrelevant. For example, I just checked up on your region to see whether you were not a raider in disguise, or whether you have committed past abuses. You haven't. Simple as that. You'd convince me otherwise if there were another reason, however.

[The Rich Port]

We at leach islands do not condemn the actions by the axis of evil, nor do we vote in favor of the Liberation. If a region is not prepared to defend itself, whether through allies or by it's own means then the inevitable will happen. They will be invaded.

Those who have no reason to take up arms need not do so. They are harmless and defenseless. It is up to the WA to defend such people, or at least to prevent transgressions that would impair international peace and strain relations. And by your argument, The Axis of Evil is once again presented as dangerous. Therefore, they are delegates for regulation/curtailing, even by the WA

[Jedi-Gangsters]

I do not wish to impose my rule, but that is what The Axis of Evil is doing in Democratia.

[Mikeswill]

Again:
Liberation Resolutions in the Security Council alter the rules of Play and put Regions such as NationStates in Jeopardy.

Therefore:
Mikeswill's vote against "Liberate Democratia" has been noted.

[The Rich Port]

I do not wish to impose my rule, but that is what The Axis of Evil is doing in Democratia.

You've nothing to be ashamed about. In this case, your intentions are noble, and the Axis of Evil's are not. The WA has every right to help in their expelling and the end of their operations in Democratia.

[Leach Islands]

We at leach islands do not condemn the actions by the axis of evil, nor do we vote in favor of the Liberation. If a region is not prepared to defend itself, whether through allies or by it's own means then the inevitable will happen. They will be invaded.

Those who have no reason to take up arms need not do so. They are harmless and defenseless. It is up to the WA to defend such people, or at least to prevent transgressions that would impair international peace and strain relations. And by your argument, The Axis of Evil is once again presented as dangerous. Therefore, they are delegates for regulation/curtailing, even by the WA

Nations should not have to rely on organisations such as the WA to bail them out of the trouble that they have caused themselves.

[Jedi-Gangsters]

Nations should not have to rely on organisations such as the WA to bail them out of the trouble that they have caused themselves.

Why do you feel that way? Does it matter? Shouldn't it come down to what is right and wrong, and the actions taken in Democratia by The Axis of Evil are plainly wrong. And shouldn't we do something to rectify this situation?

[The Nuclear Robatics]

I do not wish to impose my rule, but that is what The Axis of Evil is doing in Democratia.

CRY ME A GODDAMM RIVER FOOL. I don't believe you for a fucking second. If you had your way, all raider nations would't be allowed to play or operate in NationStates

[Cromwell Protectorate]

How long ago did the invasion take place?

How many natives are claiming WA action?

Cromwell Protectorate/A Lee Project has always been a defender, peacekeeping nation, however, the value of sovereignty is always priority.

Although it's a plausable and honourable Act to pass, this will open up a can of worms for ALL of NS.

Unless I see proof, we cannot support this motion....

[Manfigurut]

For a long time I was the delegate my region and had to use password-protection to prevent undesireable nations from entering our region. We have since refounded it, but I think that the option of liberating a region can be very easily abused by invaders or so-called defenders to impose their rule on others. Therefore I tend to oppose all Security Council resolutions, via my WA nation.

You've not heard of the word "investigation" or the phrase "fact-checking" before? Irrelevant. For example, I just checked up on your region to see whether you were not a raider in disguise, or whether you have committed past abuses. You haven't. Simple as that. You'd convince me otherwise if there were another reason, however.

Being a native speaker of English, I have actually heard of the phrase. It will probably surprise you, but I have even checked on the region in question. If several nations arrive from the AoE and decide to change the WFE it is their affair. The delegate and the nation Lucky Number have envidently inhabited Democratia for a lengthy period of time. There's no need to grief against either of them. Raiders or not, what they do with their home (which seems to me to be just another dying inactive mini-region) is no concern of mine or of any other region.

You seem to regard raiding as an "abuse". While I certainly would not like my region to be invaded, raiding does not break any game rules. NS probably wouldn't be half as fun as it is without an occasional war.