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Postby United Federation of Canada » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:02 pm

And........... You have a quorum.

Congratulations are in order.

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Postby Eumantia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:26 pm

You misspelled the possessive "its". Against.
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Postby Gervase » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:45 pm

Eumantia wrote:You misspelled the possessive "its". Against.


Thank you. It's just amazing that with all the incredible nit-picking and back and forth that goes on at the WA, glaring mistakes like these just pass blithely by.
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Postby Eist » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:01 pm

Only after submitting it, though :p
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Postby The Saint James Confederation » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:53 pm

Eumantia wrote:You misspelled the possessive "its". Against.

This must be the single most important concern of our Congress.

Except it's not. The nation's good taste in video games is more pressing a concern to us than the misspelling of one three-letter word. We concur with the Honourable Mr al-Jabr of Gervase that this mistake is not something the WA usually misses, but is ultimately irrelevant to the matter at hand. We are not voting on the proofreading skills of the author or this honourable Security Council, we are voting on whether or not the nation of SkyDip has merited this lofty recognition from the WA.

We feel that our concerns have been noted and addressed by the author. (It didn't really take that much to please us, though.) Result of our voting: 7 Yeas to 3 Noes with four abstentions. With this in mind, The Saint James Confederation has hereby lodged a vote FOR the resolution at hand. We wish Godspeed to The Dawn of the Final Day of SkyDip and The Virtuous Paragon of Abacathea and this most honourable Security Council.

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Postby Riasy » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:55 pm

BELIEVING that it is fully unrealistic to expect all nations in the WA to comply to the letter of every mandate, law, and sub-council given power in these halls,

Someone who promotes non-compliance with WA resolutions should be condemned, not commended. SkyDip has disgraced the WA by including that clause into SCR #114 and therefore doesn't deserve commendation. I vote against this outrageous initiative!
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Postby Abacathea » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:38 am

The Saint James Confederation wrote:
Eumantia wrote:You misspelled the possessive "its". Against.

This must be the single most important concern of our Congress.

Except it's not. The nation's good taste in video games is more pressing a concern to us than the misspelling of one three-letter word. We concur with the Honourable Mr al-Jabr of Gervase that this mistake is not something the WA usually misses, but is ultimately irrelevant to the matter at hand. We are not voting on the proofreading skills of the author or this honourable Security Council, we are voting on whether or not the nation of SkyDip has merited this lofty recognition from the WA.

We feel that our concerns have been noted and addressed by the author. (It didn't really take that much to please us, though.) Result of our voting: 7 Yeas to 3 Noes with four abstentions. With this in mind, The Saint James Confederation has hereby lodged a vote FOR the resolution at hand. We wish Godspeed to The Dawn of the Final Day of SkyDip and The Virtuous Paragon of Abacathea and this most honourable Security Council.

Sincerely,
Sadatsugu Takari
Chairman of the Congress


This is appreciated, annoyingly this one slips by me more often than it should. I am glad to see however that this has not damaged it too badly. Ultimately I hope this, should it pass, is more of a reflection on the recipient as it's intended than the lacking grammer of the author. However should it not, naturally i will try again (grammatically improved of course) as I do stand by the recipient's worthiness.
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G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
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G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
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Postby Feux » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:44 am

SkyDip is going to get a pretty badge, making me all J. :P

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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:10 am

I oppose this. SkyDip's position in opposing the condemnation of nations like Hippostania by the Security Council on the grounds that they are not as bad as other condemned nations merely makes him a defender of tyranny.

The United Kingdom of Gordano and Lysandus votes against the commendation and sincerely advises its fellow members of the Epheron Region to oppose it.
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Postby Abacathea » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:45 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:I oppose this. SkyDip's position in opposing the condemnation of nations like Hippostania by the Security Council on the grounds that they are not as bad as other condemned nations merely makes him a defender of tyranny.

The United Kingdom of Gordano and Lysandus votes against the commendation and sincerely advises its fellow members of the Epheron Region to oppose it.


I fail to follow the logic on this point. It's a rather warped slippery slope argument. I oppose most liberation proposals mainly because I don't feel the bulk of them are warranted. By your logic that means I am a defender of oppression.
G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
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G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
S.C #146; Repeal "Liberate Hogwarts"

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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:48 am

SkyDip has made himself a rallying point for those seeking to prevent condemnation coming upon nations which break international law and exact tyrannical actions on its populace. I used the Hippostania example because it is prominent. Hippostania oppresses its citizens and those of other countries in contravention of numerous resolutions by the World Assembly, and yet no action is taken because SkyDip defends Hippostania - his actions were key to overturning the condemnation that Demphor and Gordano and Lysandus fought to establish.
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Postby Panshu » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:58 am

I don't feel like SkyDip deserves a commendation quite yet, but he's darn close. Because I don't necessarily oppose this resolution, I'll abstain.

And I don't have anything against proofreading errors. Their what makes us human. ;)

EDIT: Mahaj brings up a good point. AGAINST.
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Postby Evidentia » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:32 am

Evidentia cannot in good conscience take a stand either for or against this resolution until it is revised to resolve errors in grammar and spelling.

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Postby The Dark » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:46 am

The ambassador from Gordano and Lysandus harbors a particular hatred for SkyDip after he repealed Gordo's inherently awful Condemnation of Hippostania.
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Postby Mahaj » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:53 am

Abacathea wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:I oppose this. SkyDip's position in opposing the condemnation of nations like Hippostania by the Security Council on the grounds that they are not as bad as other condemned nations merely makes him a defender of tyranny.

The United Kingdom of Gordano and Lysandus votes against the commendation and sincerely advises its fellow members of the Epheron Region to oppose it.


I fail to follow the logic on this point. It's a rather warped slippery slope argument. I oppose most liberation proposals mainly because I don't feel the bulk of them are warranted. By your logic that means I am a defender of oppression.

Weeeelllll.....


But myself, I am opposed to this resolution. I don't think the resolution is strong enough to be worthy, a proper commendation ought to focus more on his WA matters, giving us more depth on his proposals.
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Postby Abacathea » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:07 am

The loss of the North Pacific vote damaged things slightly. In the event this fails I will redraft and come back. I do feel the topic worthy.
G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
G.A #292; Nuclear Security Convention
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G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
S.C #146; Repeal "Liberate Hogwarts"

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Postby Riasy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:37 am

The Dark wrote:The ambassador from Gordano and Lysandus harbors a particular hatred for SkyDip after he repealed Gordo's inherently awful Condemnation of Hippostania.

SCR #114 was nothing more than spittle into the face of World Assembly! It isn’t necessary to support condemnation of Hippostania to loathe SkyDip’s horrible repeal of that condemnation.
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:47 am

By repealing the Condemnation of Hippostania, SkyDip ultimately undermined the integrity of the World Assembly. I must question why nations join the World Assembly with no intention of supporting its resolutions.
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Postby The Dark » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:51 am

And you're still under the impression, for some reason, that the SC mandates GA-esque laws, which details your misunderstanding of this council.

But this thread isn't for a discussion of Repeal Condemn Hippostania.
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Postby Riasy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:00 am

I believe that SCR #114 is directly related to the resolution at vote. Resolution at vote, among other things, seeks to commend SkyDip's efforts in creation of Security Council resolutions. Awful argumentation of SCR #114 is a good reason to avoid commending SkyDip's efforts in this sphere.

It is also impossible to take seriously the idea that SkyDip's nation-building efforts are somehow deserve commendation. As it was already mentioned in this thread their achievements in that sphere are not very spectacular. Commending such trivialities would go against the very principles that were expressed by SkyDip in aforementioned SCR #114.
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:39 pm

Riasy wrote:
The Dark wrote:The ambassador from Gordano and Lysandus harbors a particular hatred for SkyDip after he repealed Gordo's inherently awful Condemnation of Hippostania.

SCR #114 was nothing more than spittle into the face of World Assembly! It isn’t necessary to support condemnation of Hippostania to loathe SkyDip’s horrible repeal of that condemnation.

Commend Hippostania was a sh*t on the face of the Security Council.
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Postby The North Polish Union » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:25 pm

For. That last clause sold me on it. :p
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Postby Abacathea » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:54 pm

The North Polish Union wrote:For. That last clause sold me on it. :p


we are quite proud of it :)
G.A #236; Renewable Energy Installations (Repealed)
G.A #239; Vehicle Emissions Convention (Repealed).
G.A #257; Reducing Automobile Emissions (Repealed).
G.A #263; Uranium Mining Standards Act
G.A #279; Right of Emigration
G.A #292; Nuclear Security Convention
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G.A #363; Preservation of Artefacts (repealed)
S.C #118; Commend SkyDip
S.C #120; Commend Mousebumples
S.C #122; Condemn Gest
S.C #124; Commend Bears Armed
S.C #125; Commend The Bruce
S.C #126; Commend Sanctaria
S.C #131: Commend NewTexas
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S.C #136; Repeal "Liberate St Abbaddon" (Co-Author)
S.C #143; Commend Hobbesistan
S.C #146; Repeal "Liberate Hogwarts"

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Postby Terravoss » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:23 pm

Riasy wrote:
The Dark wrote:The ambassador from Gordano and Lysandus harbors a particular hatred for SkyDip after he repealed Gordo's inherently awful Condemnation of Hippostania.

SCR #114 was nothing more than spittle into the face of World Assembly! It isn’t necessary to support condemnation of Hippostania to loathe SkyDip’s horrible repeal of that condemnation.


Hippo did absolutely nothing, that any other psycho wouldn't do. Shall we condemn all psycho's from now on as a matter of cause? I am not a huge fan of some of SkyDip's repeals (as in repealing Quote Of The Day's commendation), but he has opposed liberating Nazi Europe every time, and that is a plus. All in all, I suppose he deserves this as much as Glen-Rhodes did.
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Postby Auralia » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:56 pm

Voted against, but only because of inconsistent capitalization and other spelling/grammar issues.
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