PASSED: Cultural Heritage Protection

[Golgoglot]

As has been stated by others, there is enough reason to oppose this resolution, so I have voted against it.

*throws a blueberry pie at random into the mêlée*

[Goobergunchia]

The side door to the General Assembly chamber opens, and Lord Evif walks in, raises his hand, and signals thumbs down quickly before stepping out again. The door is coated in pies before it has a full chance to close.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

I'm not too keen on spelling mistakes (due to my strict drafting criteria), but I am not very impressed too when the definition is so vaguely defined and the proposal is rushed. Honoured ambassador to Bergnovinaia, I thought you did so well with the Biological Weapons Conference: why lapse so suddenly?

[Massachussets Bay]

Having given the matter due consideration, the Commonwealth of Massachussets Bay regrets that it cannot support this resolution in its current form.

Regards.

[Bergnovinaia]

I'm not too keen on spelling mistakes (due to my strict drafting criteria), but I am not very impressed too when the definition is so vaguely defined and the proposal is rushed. Honoured ambassador to Bergnovinaia, I thought you did so well with the Biological Weapons Conference: why lapse so suddenly?

OOC: To be completely honest, I've just gotten really busy lately between volunteering for NJHS, playing tennis, playing piano, AP and honors homework, etc. The biological weapons conference I wrote at the beginning of the school year so I had more time to do so... The definition is somewhat vague in this proposal of cultural heritage site becuase I came up with it at 6 am (I am not a morning person),
If you want to repeal it and re-draft, be my guest.

[Philimbesi]

Nigel grabs Max and places him in front to act as a human pie shield. We rise today to cast our vote against this proposal on the grounds that have already been stated.

Nigel picks up an elderberry pie and hurls it in the general direction of the Unibot mission. Who now smells like elderberries.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

If you want to repeal it and re-draft, be my guest.

Oh for fuck's sake, don't you think enough time has been expended on insta-repeals and replacements already? Wait at least a couple months before bringing this subject up again, because I for one am sick of it.

*angrily hurls mincemeat pies in the general direction of the Bergnovinaian delegation*

[Gobbannium]

I'm not too keen on spelling mistakes (due to my strict drafting criteria)

Prince Rhodri was in the process of sneaking into range of Bob Flibble, an aerodynamically balanced custard pie in his hands, when this statement stopped him dead. For once lost for words, he threw the pie at Ms Harper instead.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

*Ms. Harper grabbed one of the robotic penguins and the penguin got the pie. unfortunately the hall has run out of custard pies and the WA has used up its allocated rations.*

Honoured ambassadors, please...

Oh for fuck's sake, don't you think enough time has been expended on insta-repeals and replacements already? Wait at least a couple months before bringing this subject up again, because I for one am sick of it.

in fact I have the insta-repeal up for drafting now. Then once we have done that I'll arrange a trip to Antjepolis and the Brandenburg Gate, which I envisage as a possible SC HQ replacement. Here we go:

(self-removed for logistical reasons).

[DEFENESTRATINATOR V2]

The doors of the General Assembly burst open and amid a cloud of foul black smoke The STEAM-POWERED TERROR of DEFENESTRATINATOR V2 rumbles into the chamber. The machine is quickly fitted with a special pie-throwing apparatus and begins rapid-firing lemon meringue at Ms. Sarah Harper and the Bergnovinaian ambassador.

[Philimbesi]

How ironic that the ambassador (rightfully) criticizes the Bergnovinaian delegation for premature submission and then chooses to muddy the waters of the ongoing debate by posting her repeal of the resolution before the original ever passes. To the room that is currently debating it.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

How ironic that the ambassador (rightfully) criticizes the Bergnovinaian delegation for premature submission and then chooses to muddy the waters of the ongoing debate by posting her repeal of the resolution before the original ever passes.

it's about openness and listening to the opinions of fellow ambassadors and then revising, and revising, and revising, honoured ambassador. That's crash-testing, which I call it WA-NCAP for the purpose of drafting.

[Mad Sheep Railgun]

<snip> Insta-repeal nonsense.

I can't believe you just posted the text of an insta-repeal in the At Vote thread. Have you no sense of decorum or....anything?

[Philimbesi]

it's about openness and listening to the opinions of fellow ambassadors and then revising, and revising, and revising, honoured ambassador. That's crash-testing, which I call it WA-NCAP for the purpose of drafting.

Call it what you'd like ambassador what I'll choose to call it is rude. At least have the common sense to start it's own thread if you insist on dominating the spotlight so. I don't like insta-repeals though obviously I have participated in them but at least the Ambassador from Gray's Harbor and I had enough respect for the drafter of Protection of monuments to wait until it had passed.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

it's about openness and listening to the opinions of fellow ambassadors and then revising, and revising, and revising, honoured ambassador. That's crash-testing, which I call it WA-NCAP for the purpose of drafting.

Call it what you'd like ambassador what I'll choose to call it is rude. At least have the common sense to start it's own thread if you insist on dominating the spotlight so. I don't like insta-repeals though obviously I have participated in them but at least the Ambassador from Gray's Harbor and I had enough respect for the drafter of Protection of monuments to wait until it had passed.

Fine, honoured ambassador: self-removed.

Yours etc,

[Krioval]

Honestly, at this point, it behooves both the authoring and coauthoring nations to immediately begin sending telegrams to approving delegates asking them to vote against this resolution. That a proposal would be so rushed that its coauthor be left twisting in the wind, and other draft contributors feel that their suggestions were ignored wholesale, is simply inappropriate. That a repeal is being circulated by the coauthor even before the vote is concluded is also, quite frankly, suspect. There is still time to kill this legislation before it passes; the Imperial Chiefdom strongly suggests that efforts be directed there while they still can.

[Lord] Ambassador Darvek Tyvok
Imperial Chiefdom of Krioval

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

Then once we have done that I'll arrange a trip to Antjepolis and the Brandenburg Gate, which I envisage as a possible SC HQ replacement.

And this bears any relevance to...anything...how?

I've had enough of this shit.

*breaks out a few pumpkin pies and a tub of Cool Whip; lets the pastries fly before applying the whipped cream to Ms. Harper*

Aww, my favorite part of Thanksgiving. Except for the stuffing.

*breaks out bowl of stuffing and tosses it at what has become a walking pile of holiday dessert.*

And let's not forget the yams!

*produces a giant bowl of mashed yams topped with baked marshmallows and...well, you know.*

[Mad Sheep Railgun]

How ironic that the ambassador (rightfully) criticizes the Bergnovinaian delegation for premature submission and then chooses to muddy the waters of the ongoing debate by posting her repeal of the resolution before the original ever passes.

it's about openness and listening to the opinions of fellow ambassadors and then revising, and revising, and revising, honoured ambassador. That's crash-testing, which I call it WA-NCAP for the purpose of drafting.

But how is this "openness" supposed to make Bergnovinaia feel? You helped him draft the thing. You let him add you as a co-author. You knew you were being listed as co-author because you commented on it, so apparently you were OK with the resolution at that point. And now you've not only turned against the resolution but you've thrown Bergnovinaia under the bus by starting the drafting of an insta-repeal in his At Vote thread. Where did you learn to treat people you're working with this way?

[Charlotte Ryberg]

How ironic that the ambassador (rightfully) criticizes the Bergnovinaian delegation for premature submission and then chooses to muddy the waters of the ongoing debate by posting her repeal of the resolution before the original ever passes.

it's about openness and listening to the opinions of fellow ambassadors and then revising, and revising, and revising, honoured ambassador. That's crash-testing, which I call it WA-NCAP for the purpose of drafting.

But how is this "openness" supposed to make Bergnovinaia feel? You helped him draft the thing. You let him add you as a co-author. You knew you were being listed as co-author because you commented on it, so apparently you were OK with the resolution at that point. And now you've not only turned against the resolution but you've thrown Bergnovinaia under the bus by starting the drafting of an insta-repeal in his At Vote thread. Where did you learn to treat people you're working with this way?

I only highlighted the fact that no more than two co-authors could be listed under GA proposal rules, honoured ambassador. It could have gone either way.

[Mad Sheep Railgun]

How ironic that the ambassador (rightfully) criticizes the Bergnovinaian delegation for premature submission and then chooses to muddy the waters of the ongoing debate by posting her repeal of the resolution before the original ever passes.

it's about openness and listening to the opinions of fellow ambassadors and then revising, and revising, and revising, honoured ambassador. That's crash-testing, which I call it WA-NCAP for the purpose of drafting.

But how is this "openness" supposed to make Bergnovinaia feel? You helped him draft the thing. You let him add you as a co-author. You knew you were being listed as co-author because you commented on it, so apparently you were OK with the resolution at that point. And now you've not only turned against the resolution but you've thrown Bergnovinaia under the bus by starting the drafting of an insta-repeal in his At Vote thread. Where did you learn to treat people you're working with this way?

I only highlighted the fact that no more than two co-authors could be listed under GA proposal rules, honoured ambassador. It could have gone either way.

But you didn't ask not to be listed as a co-author, now did you? That tells me that you supported the resolution at that point.

edit: Also:

4 days ago: Charlotte Ryberg approved the World Assembly proposal "Cultural Heritage Protection".
2 days, 11 hours ago: Charlotte Ryberg voted for the World Assembly Resolution "Cultural Heritage Protection".
2 days, 11 hours ago: Charlotte Ryberg withdrew its vote on the World Assembly Resolution "Cultural Heritage Protection"
1 day, 3 hours ago: Charlotte Ryberg voted against the World Assembly Resolution "Cultural Heritage Protection".

So you not only let yourself be listed as co-author, you saw fit to approve it and then vote for it. You only turned against it when you saw it was being greeted with widespread disapproval here in the At Vote thread and noticed that your name had been misspelled.

[The Altani Federation]

Second verse, same as the first, eh?

This resolution is as bad as the one that preceded it. In other words, it's a "lottle" crap.

Opposed.

-Nikolai Nagashybyuly, Ambassador

[Bergnovinaia]

If you want to repeal it and re-draft, be my guest.

Oh for fuck's sake, don't you think enough time has been expended on insta-repeals and replacements already? Wait at least a couple months before bringing this subject up again, because I for one am sick of it.

*angrily hurls mincemeat pies in the general direction of the Bergnovinaian delegation*

You know what, this is an insta-repeal of Protection of Monuments so give me a break... Besides, just becuase you may be able to sit at the computer for hours (or however long you actually do) doesn't mean I can. I have been really pressured between school, preparing for our tennis season, and practicing for a piano recital lately so I haven't had time to muse over each and every thought created by the WA members. However, I will do so in the future so I don't piss certain people off.

[Krioval]

You know what, this is an insta-repeal of Protection of Monuments so give me a break... Besides, just becuase you may be able to sit at the computer for hours (or however long you actually do) doesn't mean I can. I have been really pressured between school, preparing for our tennis season, and practicing for a piano recital lately so I haven't had time to muse over each and every thought created by the WA members. However, I will do so in the future so I don't piss certain people off.

OOC: Look. The problem here is that you rushed the thing to a vote. Admit it and let's move forward, 'k? If you're RL busy, then delay submission in the future. At the very least, ask for a quick run through it for proofreading - go ahead and TG me if it's just for a quick spell- and grammar-check. There's no *reason* to hurry on a resolution like this one.

Now then. Best thing to do at this stage is to get people to vote this down. Tell the delegates voting "yes" that you feel that the quality is lower than you might like, and that you'd like to submit a better version in the next few weeks. At the very least, stop the indignant tirades. Right now, with what I've been seeing, it looks like you're more interested in resolution count than quality submission; only you can determine for us whether that's true, or whether this is a one-time error of judgment.

[Acadzia]

Acadzia is concerned that such a poorly written resolution has been passed to the floor. While the spirit of the resolution is, in our view, commendable, there is just too many loopholes and forseeable opportunities for such a measure to be abused.

These abuses have already been listed by some of my collegues, but I shall reiterate them:

- No provision exists to ban states from declaring military targets as cultural heritage centres.
- Further to my first point, some cultural sites are of historic signficance because they were, and in some cases still are, military targets.
- There is potential for the infringement of religious freedom.

Furthermore, the resolution is lacking in specificity.

Acadzia reaffirms that all nations should be good stewards of cultural sites, and those of other states, but we cannot approve this resolution in it's current state. We recommend all nations vote against it, and that the authors of this resolution repair it and resubmit it, because, as I stated, its spirit is admirable.

For God, Commonwealth, and King,
Dr. Elijah Krozenberg
Foreign Affairs Minister of the Commonwealth of Acadzia

[Philimbesi]

You know what, this is an insta-repeal of Protection of Monuments so give me a break...

That's funny I was certain that Grays Harbor and I already repealed it and that this was a new resolution, Yes I'm certain we did and a good clue might be that this says "Cultural Heritage Protection" and not "Repeal Protection of monuments".

Ambassador be honest, you rushed this to the floor because after our repeal when through a part of you was probably worried that someone else would bring up this micromanaging, completely useless topic before you got a chance to.