PASSED: Cultural Heritage Protection

[Anime Daisuki]

This looks better written than the previous versions I've seen.. FOR

[Flibbleites]

Personally I'm all for corruption...how else am I going to fund my many unsavory and unwholesome habits. also i have to agree with my colleague from Philimbesi. If the co-author finds it flawed why do they continue to support it. More importantly...if it is flawed, why should I support it.
Excelsior,
Sen. Horatio Sulla

I'm afraid I must agree with my good but unwholesome colleague here. If one of the proposal's authors thinks it's flawed that tells me that the proposal was submitted before it was completely ready for prime time and since I have a strict policy of voting against any proposal that falls into that category, I must cast my vote AGAINST this resolution.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

[Glen-Rhodes]

I was dismayed when I saw that this resolution was on the voting floor without the proper edits. While the Ambassador of Bergnovinaia did apply the changes I had suggested during drafting, without a clear definition of "cultural heritage site", which I had reminded was a necessity, it suffers from the same flaws Protection of Monuments did. Unfortunately, this oversight is too large to forgive.

Perhaps I should have been more clear that my suggested edits were in no way comprehensive and without flaws needing to be edited.

[float=left]Dr. Bradford William Castro

Ambassador-at-Large,
Permanent Chief of Mission for World Assembly affairs,
the Commonwealth of Glen-Rhodes[/float][float=right][/float]

[Kovasckitz]

As the above statements say, this proprosition has flaws, and too many to forgive.

That being said, why ban the blocking of the sites? Heavy traffic to Kovasckitz's ancient Temple of Comidically Brakeable Knick-Knacks and Gift Shop would result in disastor, and the situation should have been exponded upon.

However if a (much) better version of this bill and Protection of Monuments was to come out, I will wote for it. Untill then, I must vote it down.

[UpperWales]

I don't see a problem with this at all, it's my belief that anything historical be preserved no matter what.

Might I suggest that someone right it up as an Issue for even non-member states to take action on?

[Imperial Aaronia]

The Empire, in wisdom perpetual, has decided to vote against the proposal. The Culture and Heritage Senatorial Committee determined, though the piece was well intentioned and would do well for the Empire, that the lack of confidence the Senate and Imperial populace had in the piece meant that implementing the provisions made in the article with full cooperation and support would be near impossible. This was furthered by the apparent lack of confidence of the co-author of the article, which only emphasised the Senatorial opposition.

- Dr. Tolian Varn
Permanent Imperial Ambassador to the World Assembly

[The Obamanator]

Also, when you write, "Charlottle Ryberg" , what nation are you referring to?

I know of Charlotte Ryberg. But no Charlottles....

I think it's time we had a national conversation about jurdisticion. We need to get past all the Unibotians and recognize that we are our own best hope for overcoming Charlottles. We need Charlottes, not Charlottles. Charlottes are our honoured ambassadors. And we need to have change in jurdisticion.

[Sentrocalipto]

RECOGNIZING that several of these artifacts could be threatened during conflict;

What do you expect during a conflict? That oppressors should spare your artifacts? This in my opinion is not reasonable.

[Enn]

Whilst I had been in favour of this resolution, and do firmly believe that something should be on the WA's books regarding this area, I have been in touch with Lady Faren. After discussing the debate thus far, she has instructed me to cast Enn's vote AGAINST this (unless Enn becomes Delegate in the meantime, then we will have to go by IDU rules).

The clinching factor was the simple fact that the co-author is less than supportive of the resolution as written. There is much that still remains to be cleared up. Both Lady Faren and I sincerely hope that this does not result in the second pass-and-repeal in a row, but we recognise that that may have to happen.

Stephanie Fulton,
WA Ambassador for Enn

[Gobbannium]

We find ourself in the irksome position of agreeing with Dr Castro, though from a divergent viewpoint. The proposal lacks both clarity and teeth, and will have no effect at all upon any nations whose legislatures read it with any care.

[Bergnovinaia]

I was dismayed when I saw that this resolution was on the voting floor without the proper edits. While the Ambassador of Bergnovinaia did apply the changes I had suggested during drafting, without a clear definition of "cultural heritage site", which I had reminded was a necessity, it suffers from the same flaws Protection of Monuments did. Unfortunately, this oversight is too large to forgive.

Perhaps I should have been more clear that my suggested edits were in no way comprehensive and without flaws needing to be edited.

[float=left]Dr. Bradford William Castro

Ambassador-at-Large,
Permanent Chief of Mission for World Assembly affairs,
the Commonwealth of Glen-Rhodes[/float][float=right][/float]

What would be a better definition that doesn't take away sovereignty of nations? I did not add some suggestions because I have been very busy lately and have been on and off this site.

[Gobbannium]

What would be a better definition that doesn't take away sovereignty of nations? I did not add some suggestions because I have been very busy lately and have been on and off this site.

And yet you had time to submit this. We are unimpressed.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

What would be a better definition that doesn't take away sovereignty of nations? I did not add some suggestions because I have been very busy lately and have been on and off this site.

And yet you had time to submit this. We are unimpressed.

The referendum results from the Mind of Charlotte Ryberg pretty much explains so: the honoured ambassador to Charlotte Ryberg has made quite a lot of suggestions but the honoured ambassador to Bergnovinaia has been compiling this resolution too quickly. The emigration reform proposal and its sister draft on the reduction of statelessness is still in the crash-test department as I speak. The humanitarian reform (GA #51, ex. WA #53) took months.

Although we applaud the bare intentions of this draft... and our best efforts to improve the draft, expecting the honoured ambassador to Bergnovinaia a return a more well-thought and carefully written draft from our strong suggestions, without rushing, the flaws and the public response to the referendum... with all votes now counted, and at 64% of votes against 36% in favour... it is with regret the honoured ambassador has to turn down the resolution as it is currently written. In fact the honoured ambassador to Charlotte Ryberg will be considering writing a repeal, calling for a bit more time to be taken, since this isn't a race.

Yours etc,

Ms. Sarah Harper,

Chief Ambassador for the Mind of Charlotte Ryberg, to the World Assembly

[The Caprican Alliance]

The principle of this resolution is excellent. I however am fundamentally against a resolution which ties the hands of a government even in a time of conflict or crisis.

Nation states should always be excepted from resolutions such as this in times of great national crisis, and this resolution takes no account of that.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Nation states should always be excepted from resolutions such as this in times of great national crisis, and this resolution takes no account of that.

I'm not too sure about that... it might constitute a optionality violation.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

I'm more interested in the fact that the co-author of this resolution believes it's flawed.

She thinks it's flawed because her name is misspelled. I was well aware of the co-author's ego before this came to vote, but opposing a resolution because the co-authorship line contains a typo is just pathetic.

As for me, I couldn't give a rip at the outcome of this vote. I'd rather have another pie fight.

*tosses banana cream at Ambassador Harper*

[Charlotte Ryberg]

I'm more interested in the fact that the co-author of this resolution believes it's flawed.

She thinks it's flawed because her name is misspelled. I was well aware of the co-author's ego before this came to vote, but opposing a resolution because the co-authorship line contains a typo is just pathetic.

As for me, I couldn't give a rip at the outcome of this vote. I'd rather have another pie fight.

*tosses banana cream at Ambassador Harper*

That is not the reason I opposed this resolution, honoured ambassador.

[Unibotian WASC Mission]

I'm more interested in the fact that the co-author of this resolution believes it's flawed.

but opposing a resolution because the co-authorship line contains a typo is just pathetic.


*tosses banana cream at Ambassador Harper*

Oh, I don't know about that. If someone spelt my name wrong I'd probably be mad, like honestly... its six letters (though I'd first make fun of this "Unibolt" fellow). Spelling the co-author's name glaringly wrong makes for a good indication that the honorable ambassador rushed this proposal to vote.

And on that note, I say -- on guard !

*whips a spinning pumpkin pie from beneath his coat at the kennylite Kennyite ambassador*

Surely there should be a proposal to donate all of this wasted pie to little starving children in third world countries...

[Unibotian WASC Mission]

Also, when you write, "Charlottle Ryberg" , what nation are you referring to?

I know of Charlotte Ryberg. But no Charlottles....

I think it's time we had a national conversation about jurdisticion. We need to get past all the Unibotians and recognize that we are our own best hope for overcoming Charlottles. We need Charlottes, not Charlottles. Charlottes are our honoured ambassadors. And we need to have change in jurdisticion.

By god, give this genius one of those Nobel prizes !

No.. not the science ones, I meant the peace one...

[Krioval]

For what it's worth, the Imperial Chiefdom casts its vote against this resolution. We believe that the voices of those already in opposition sum up the deficiencies of this legislation adequately, however, Krioval is a bit concerned that this issue is generating such attention. Has the Assembly really run out of important things to discuss, or is Krioval simply becoming intolerant of fluffiness in all of its forms these days?

[Lord] Ambassador Darvek Tyvok
Imperial Chiefdom of Krioval

[Viktors]

I believe this should be ammended to include that no nation may place military installations, keep prisoners or store weaponry etc. at a site that is recognised as "Cultural Heritage".

I think it's time we had a national conversation about amendments. We need to get past all the amendments and recognize that we are our own best hope for overcoming fear. We need artifacts, not military installations. Artifacts are our hope. And we need to have hope for change in this protection of our cultural heritage.

I honestly hope to god the next thing your going to limit is my military? That's defineatly a /quit WA right there. You can have you monuments and artifacts... but without military, whats to stop someone from coming and taking everything? Think about it.

[Charlottle Ryberg]

Spelling the co-author's name glaringly wrong makes for a good indication that the honorable ambassador rushed this proposal to vote.

What's wrong with the spelling? What are you talking about?

*flings a Boston Creme Pie at the Unibotian ambassador*

[Flibbleites]

Spelling the co-author's name glaringly wrong makes for a good indication that the honorable ambassador rushed this proposal to vote.

What's wrong with the spelling? What are you talking about?

*flings a Boston Creme Pie at the Unibotian ambassador*

Why would you waste a perfectly good cake when we have pies to throw?
*Throws a Lemon Meringue Pie at Ms. Harper*

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

[Unibot]

Spelling the co-author's name glaringly wrong makes for a good indication that the honorable ambassador rushed this proposal to vote.

What's wrong with the spelling? What are you talking about?

*flings a Boston Creme Pie at the Unibotian ambassador*

Why would you waste a perfectly good cake when we have pies to throw?
*Throws a Lemon Meringue Pie at Ms. Harper*

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

Zhildigio was smacked into a desk, wearing his favorite pie as a suit.

"If Mr. Flibble is throwing at Charlotte Ryberg's Ms. Harper, than I suppose I shall rage war against Charlottle Ryberg's Mrs. Harper. To the death -- I say!"

*nod*

Zhildigio opened the bar refrigerator on his desk to find a perfectly chilled meringue pie for throwing.
Finding only a jar of raw fish eggs and a half a pound of bacon, the ambassador decided to throw the bar refrigerator at the mysterious ambassador instead.

Too bad it was still plugged in when Zhildigio tried to throw it, ripping the cord out of the wall, with most of the drywall with it.

[Amfas]

The further mistakes pointed out above is only further proof of why this resolution should not be past, and should never have gotten to the GA floor in the first place.

However, it seems as if this discussion is not being percieved by the public or other member nations who are voting on the legislation. It appears that more people here oppose the bill, and yet still the majority is largely in favor of the act. It is this mentality that demonstrates the ineffectiveness of this body to act if the members are not willing to see, and at least participate in, the debate here on the forums.

As stated before, the Dictatorship of American Fascism (Amfas) has placed its vote and support against this bill and its attempts to take away member states ability to function in war and because of the legislations open vauge nature.

Minister of Imperial Relations
Imperial Ambassador to the WA