[Passed] Rainforest Protection Act

[Bazileum]

Bazlieum would like to go further than this act, but as far as it is concerned, we will support this.

Alamar Xarfaxis
Grand-Vizier of the Order of the Broken Seven
Magocracy of Bazileum

[The Scientific States]

Bazlieum would like to go further than this act, but as far as it is concerned, we will support this.

Alamar Xarfaxis
Grand-Vizier of the Order of the Broken Seven
Magocracy of Bazileum

Thank you.

[The Scientific States]

Sciongrad is unsure as to whether it may be willing to lend its support to this proposal, but it most certainly cannot in its current state. Aside from pervasive grammatical errors and a distracting lack of punctuation, this proposal is very vague in some areas, and much too specific in others. Notably, regarding what special protections are constituted by "protected area" status, as this is currently up to interpretation. A similar problem arises regarding what is considered as a "non-industrial tribe."

The scope of the proposal is also very concerning. I don't see why only tropical rain forests deserve special protection, and why especially large ones should (theoretically) be treated any differently from smaller ones. It would be a much more worthwhile endeavor to write a proposal on deforestation in general, rather than legislating on such a specific concept.

The TRPA is also given no guidelines as to how it enforces its tasks.

establish, on a case by case basis, the quantity of timber that may be exploited from a nation's tropical rainforests.

What would they take into consideration? The ecological implications of such deforestation, most likely, but that's not stated anywhere. I'm not entirely sure a proposal of this nature requires a committee either, but I'll be willing to debate the merits of that claim once this proposal is thoroughly cleaned up. My suggestion would be to remove it from the queue, after which I'll be willing to provide more suggestions. In it's current state, Sciongrad would almost certainly vote against.

Thanks for letting us know about grammatical errors.

Also I know some parts are vague, but it's tough doing this type of resolution in less than 3500 characters. The original draft was well over 5500.

Also Tropical Rainforests are at most risk of deforestation, therefore we made a resolution to protect tropical rainforests.

[Normlpeople]

As others have stated, we cannot support a draft full of arbitrary numbers, missing or vague definitions, as well as the aforementioned (by others) grammar errors.

Then again, we read this as us being exempt (thanks to measurement differences) and therefore will ignore it even if it is passed.

[Damanucus]

After a thorough read, I would have to say this is a well thought-out resolution. I only have one concern:

Prohibits WA nations from accepting imports of timber or mineral resources that are not obtained in a manner compliant with this resolution.

I know I may sound soft-hearted with this (especially given that my nation is strongly pro-environment), but this should've probably been a DISCOURAGES statement instead of PROHIBITS.

I shall vote for this resolution. Best of luck.

Stephanie Orman
Representative, Nomadic Peoples of Damanucus

[Jacobios]

Our environment must be protected against these inconsiderate methods used to destroy our habitats. For the sake of our enjoyment, flora and fauna in these regions and for the future, I call on others to vote Yay to this Act.

[Snuzztopia]

Though we wish for the proposal to go further than it does, Snuzztopia will support this Act. A greener world is a better world for all.

[New Paris]

New Paris will not be voting for the legislation because it would destroy our economy. Woodchipping is a vital industry to us. I believe in the preservation of rainforests and working to stop global warming, but not at the expense of one of our most important industries.

[Neofloydia]

I'm amazed this is getting support, and very glad about it. I'm voting in favor of this proposal, it'll do wonders.

New Paris will not be voting for the legislation because it would destroy our economy. Woodchipping is a vital industry to us. I believe in the preservation of rainforests and working to stop global warming, but not at the expense of one of our most important industries.

You're still totally allowed to cut down trees. It's just now businesses can't be waves of destruction and go tearing through massive plots of land.

[Snuzztopia]

New Paris will not be voting for the legislation because it would destroy our economy. Woodchipping is a vital industry to us. I believe in the preservation of rainforests and working to stop global warming, but not at the expense of one of our most important industries.

Such pragmatism is understandable in these time of economic uncertainty, but does the honourable member truly believe woodchipping can be sustainable in the long term? Would it not be best to diversify now, securing the future of our rainforests for generations to come?

[Chester Pearson]

At the behest of Empress Beatrice, and Prime Minister Jack Layston I have been instructed to cast a vote of AYE for this resolution. We feel it is in our best interests, as well as those of the International Community to preserve our rain forests for future generations.

Well done my fellow Comrades.

Warmest regards,

[Auralia]

Mandates that tropical rainforest areas be given protected area status.

What does this mean, exactly? Do we have to the entire tropical rainforest a protected area, or can we limit the extent of the protected area to 1000 hectares, per the definition of "protected area"?

Bans the use of slash-and-burn techniques in rainforest areas of WA nations.

Also Bans the exploitation of mineral resources in tropical rainforest areas through any techniques that damage the surface ecosystem, in part or in full.

Why? Wouldn't a sustainable development requirement make more sense than an absolute ban on certain kinds of development?

Exempts non-industrial tribes from those provisions that would lead to the destruction of their lifestyles.

Why should they be exempt?

[Bubblekirby]

This resolution is very poorly worded. It can easily be interpreted as all tropical rainforests must not be hurt for any reason. This will force a lot of nations out of the WA, because there are many nations (such as Ecuador) which are so completely covered by rainforest that this resolution would make it impossible for them to expand. While we strongly support the premise behind this resolution we cannot in good conscience except it until some kinks are ironed out.

[The Empire of Syrrinan]

I refuse to vote for this, as this is a vote that will destroy the woodchipping industry of Capitalist Paradise. Mankind's wellbeing depends on a strong and healthy economy, and I refuse to vote for something that will damage such. And wood is an important resource. Should this act be struck down, I have a proposition for another act.

[Republic of Greater America]

I'm voting against this, as my woodchipping industry will be destroyed by this ridiculous proposal. Also, as I keep saying, what good will a pretty environment do if your country is broke, bankrupt, and has no economy?

[United Federation of Canada]

I'm voting against this, as my woodchipping industry will be destroyed by this ridiculous proposal. Also, as I keep saying, what good will a pretty environment do if your country is broke, bankrupt, and has no economy?

Your entire economy is based solely on wood chipping? So a couple of hundred incendiary bombs and your country is broke?

If only every nation revealed its national secrets so easily.

[Red226]

I agree with saving the rain forest but feel it should should let my country continue to use a small percent to mine. I make money while barely disturbing nature and its inhabitants

[Carpathia and Moldova]

To be honest, this is why I left the WA. My economy is based entirely on heavy industry and exploitation and all these environmental regulations would drive me bankrupt.

[Snuzztopia]

Mankind's wellbeing depends on a strong and healthy economy, and I refuse to vote for something that will damage such. And wood is an important resource.

Does the member at least accept that future woodchipping should be based on sustainability?

[Alqania]

"The Queendom regrets having to vote against this resolution, as it in spite of our previous objections would introduce quotas", complained Princess Christine. "As a member state committed to more advanced and sophisticated methods of ensuring sustainable development, this resolution would force us to take a giant leap backwards in the regulation of industry and commerce related to rainforest exploitation."

[Legendardisch]

We voted FOR

Protecting the enviroment is protecting humanity, and thus in the long term our nature.

luckily WE dont depend on this old fashioned industry..

[The Empire of Syrrinan]

We voted FOR

Protecting the enviroment is protecting humanity, and thus in the long term our nature.

luckily WE dont depend on this old fashioned industry..

Yes, it is an amazing thing to protect ones environment. Who cares about the civil liberties of their people? You, sir, have insulted hundreds of good, capitalist nations in that one statement. You have nowhere to go about "Protecting humanity" when you can't even protect your govenrment from corruption. Nations like yours should be booted out of the WA as soon as possible.

[Dellin]

We voted FOR

Protecting the enviroment is protecting humanity, and thus in the long term our nature.

luckily WE dont depend on this old fashioned industry..

Yes, it is an amazing thing to protect ones environment. Who cares about the civil liberties of their people? You, sir, have insulted hundreds of good, capitalist nations in that one statement. You have nowhere to go about "Protecting humanity" when you can't even protect your govenrment from corruption. Nations like yours should be booted out of the WA as soon as possible.

So, civil liberties are only protected in capitalist nations? Only corporations have civil liberties? "Protecting civil liberties" means unfettered corporatism? Nope. And government from corruption? Stop making up stuff about the nation you are attacking.

In Dellin, we see access to the natural world as central to civil liberties: everyone has the right to clean air, to pristine rivers and lakes, to hiking in our natural landscapes. Those are fundamental rights our people have.

[Legendardisch]

Syrrian

Your insults dont harm us

We have found efficient ways to use wood

If your nation cant survive with this law than something is inherently wrong.

[Xarxis]

I find it hilarious that there are more single-nation votes FOR than there are total votes AGAINST.

That's either a telegraph campaign done right, or just a bunch of lemmings who like nice-looking titles.