[DEFEATED] Liberate the South Pacific

[Frisbeeteria]

Liberate the South Pacific
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.


Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): the South Pacific

Proposed by: Esponnise

Description: NOTING that the South Pacific is one of the oldest, most populated, and most respectable regions in the world,

APPALLED by the recent "coup" that has installed The Chairman of Milograd as the regional delegate,

FURTHER appalled that the coup has caused the following to take place:
1) The expelling of long-time members of the South Pacific and those who are against The Chairman of Milograd's rule.
2) The closing of embassies with nearly all regions the South Pacific formerly had relations with, and the establishment of embassies in communist-themed regions.
and
3) The establishment of a communist, atheistic environment.

ADDING that The Chairman of Milograd's actions have also caused various "makeshift" regions of expelled the South Pacific members to be formed.

TAKING this into consideration, the Security Council hereby liberates the South Pacific.

Seeing as how the author refused to grace us with a debate thread, I will start one.

What exactly is the point to this resolution? Can Milograd even password the region even IF he had the influence to do so? Seems like a waste of 3 days of voting to me, and as such I will be voting against yet another useless Security Council resolution that accomplishes absolutely nothing.

[Cervas]

Yeah it pretty much exists to look nice...i guess, otherwise it has no real reason to exist because Milograd can't password lock the region. Kinda a waste of time...

[Minbaric Federal Zones]

As much as I detest Milograd, et al, I have to agree with my Communist Colleague. Can someone provide any example of an actual benefit to passing this resolution?

[Little Red Riding Hood]

Basically what I was going to ask. Do the people voting for this realize that there's no point to it?

On second thought, it could be amusing to vote for or try to pass just for the lulz. It really is a measure of how detached some of these things are from reality.

[Radiatia]

I don't usually get involved in Gameplay stuff but from what I have seen of the incident so far I'd say I'm gonna be voting against this. It actually looks like Milograd is doing a lot of good.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and, like, it's pointless anyway.

[Terravoss]

Have submitted a thread in moderation to question the legality of this resolution. I for one am inclined to believe that this should be illegal, as you should not be able to password a feeder.

viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=16&t=238958

[Topid]

It used to be illegal, it is not now illegal.

I really wish if someone had wanted to do this, they had made some sort of effort to contact our government and ask us if we wanted to be Liberated, or at least messaged one of us and told us you were going to do it. A draft thread would have been nice too. This isn't that well written, and the lack of coordination or communication with The South Pacific's own government makes me believe the author is writing just to say he has written a resolution. I will be voting against this.

I suppose I should make it clear I am speaking now as someone who was/is greatly concerned with the Security Council as a body and not expressing any official position of The South Pacific's cabinet or government. I don't know what most of the cabinet thinks about this, we've had other matters to attend to.

[Vladisvok Destino]

Why not, makes as much sense as most of what both sides have been coming out with and the novelty of having a liberated feeder would probably be the most worthwhile thing to have come out of this whole episode.

[Thafoo]

Against this, because I support Milograd's mission for a better TSP.

[Good Sir]

And since justice has ran its course and the rule of law has been returned to The South Pacific, this sees doubly irrelevant. I will telegram the author and suggest he withdraw it as well as provide instructions for how to do so.

[Glath]

Have submitted a thread in moderation to question the legality of this resolution. I for one am inclined to believe that this should be illegal, as you should not be able to password a feeder.

viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=16&t=238958

Looks like it's legal, but I think it's pointless. And since Milograd's out of the big chair, it's a moot point.

[Thafoo]

*checks TSP*

fuuuuuu

[The Foxfyre Islands]

Looks like the situation in TSP has settled down, is this one needed?

[Penguin Dictators]

Looks like the situation in TSP has settled down, is this one needed?

It's about as needed as a "How to train your dog" manual for your cat.

[Eist]

Wait, what is this? No! Stop!

The SC has always been a silly place full of petty squabbles and half-baked ideas getting forced through by fervent campaigning, but this would take it to new levels. Let's not go there.

[Terravoss]

Wait, what is this? No! Stop!

The SC has always been a silly place full of petty squabbles and half-baked ideas getting forced through by fervent campaigning, but this would take it to new levels. Let's not go there.

Touche. Would someone please contact the author and ask them to pull this nonsense?

[Good Sir]

I did so hours ago shortly after Milo was banned.

[Terravoss]

The official ruling that was made on this seems rather asinine if you ask me. The rules don't permit the passwording of a feeder, yet it can be liberated? What in the hell is the point? I am all for the RP C&C's, but liberations are a gameplay issue. Always have been, always will be. To start using them for symbolic purposes, not only turns the Security Council into more of a fucking joke, it destroys any hope of actually using them for what they are INTENDED for, and effectively turns the Security Council into a testicleless quagmire of drivel.

Please author pull this shit, so we can save three days of pointless debate/flaming about communism, that this will surely turn into.

[The Bruce]

Wait, what is this? No! Stop!

The SC has always been a silly place full of petty squabbles and half-baked ideas getting forced through by fervent campaigning, but this would take it to new levels. Let's not go there.

Yes, please return to your normal state of petty squabbles. A feeder got couped, from the normal state of internal and external pressures, but things have gone back to business as usual and so should the Security Council.

It's a bit on the self-indulgent to go to this height of drama every time a system created region has a coup. More than a movement to condemn those responsible and a couple threads in gameplay is excessive. It seems like every time a feeder has a cold everyone gets sneezed on.

[Ponderosa]

I really don't care if this passes or not.

EDIT: Actually, I don't want to waste three days voting on this. Dear God, get this out of the queue.

[TheMilitaryOrderof Scandia]

"The legal and political issue here seems moot, the region has already been liberated by a coup d'etat of democratic nations. This resolution cannot legally apply anymore; we kindly (with thanks to those sponsors; for promoting freedom and liberty in the South Pacific) ask that the sponsors please withdraw this resolution; and if not we ask all nations in the WA to oppose this pointless and useless piece of legislation, the Security Council has better things to vote on."

AGAINST!!!!!!

[Feux]

Against. The liberation serves no purpose, as already stated. It really shouldn't be allowed to be applied to game created regions in my opinion, but the mods ruled differently. Must respect.

[The Black Hat Guy]

How this even reached queue I'll ever know. It was pointless when Milograd was in power, and it's pointless now. There never was a password on TSP.

[Ponderosa]

How this even reached queue I'll ever know. It was pointless when Milograd was in power, and it's pointless now. There never was a password on TSP.

I think it's impossible to password-protect a feeder.

[ErasmoGnome]

How this even reached queue I'll ever know. It was pointless when Milograd was in power, and it's pointless now. There never was a password on TSP.

I think it's impossible to password-protect a feeder.

It is impossible, which just makes this even more farcical. This would have done nothing even when Milo was in power.