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[DEFEATED] Condemn Emporia Towers

Postby Spuddsvania » Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:36 am

Description: The Security Council,

NOTING that GA resolution #242 bans use of bio-weapons
(defined within resolution #242) for purposes other than research

POINTING OUT that The Empire of Emporia Towers has sold millions of dollars of chemicals for "Military Applications" to numerous WA and non-WA nations through the company Spaarti Biotechnology such as:
a. Human Immunodeficiency Viral Agent- A T-cell destroyer specifically designed to cripple the human immune system
b. Spaarti Neurotoxin- A neurotoxin that induces rapid muscle contractions that end in death

REALIZING that the storefront title "Military Applications" shows that it was know they would be used for illegal purposes, with some buyers even stating their military was buying them

SHOCKED at the government's inability to stop these sales

HEREBY condemns Emporia Towers

Approval link- http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vie ... 1367158313
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Postby Sichuan Pepper » Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:34 pm

Spuddsvania wrote:Description: The Security Council,

NOTING that GA resolution #242 bans use of bio-weapons
(defined within resolution #242) for purposes other than research

POINTING OUT that The Empire of Emporia Towers has sold millions of dollars of chemicals for "Military Applications" to numerous WA and non-WA nations through the company Spaarti Biotechnology such as:
a. Human Immunodeficiency Viral Agent- A T-cell destroyer specifically designed to cripple the human immune system
b. Spaarti Neurotoxin- A neurotoxin that induces rapid muscle contractions that end in death

REALIZING that the storefront title "Military Applications" shows that it was knowN they would be used for illegal purposes, with some buyers even stating their military was buying them

SHOCKED at the government's inability to stop these sales

HEREBY condemns Emporia Towers

Approval link- http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vie ... 1367158313


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Postby Spuddsvania » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:00 pm

Thanks!
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Postby Lamoni » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:35 pm

It would also help your case if you provided some kind of evidence of these supposed grounds for condemnation. A link to the sales in question, for example.
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Postby Ratateague » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:22 pm

Why would GA legislation apply to The Emporia Towers when they are not a member of the World Assembly?
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Postby The Black Hat Guy » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:57 am

Emporia Towers is not in the WA, and therefore is not subject to WA. What he's done is not worthy of condemnation, as it's an action that is not only legal (if not preferable), but one that anyone can take without any sort of special effort. That's not the kind of thing that the SC should be condemning.

AGAINST.

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Postby Emporia Towers » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:51 pm

I'm amused that this proposal is only behind the Liberation of the South Pacific in approvals, a legitimate proposal, when I'm not even in the WA.
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Postby Ponderosa » Wed May 01, 2013 12:24 pm

Emporia Towers wrote:I'm amused that this proposal is only behind the Liberation of the South Pacific in approvals, a legitimate proposal, when I'm not even in the WA.


Liberating the South Pacific is pointless, as is this proposal here. AGAINST.
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Postby TheMilitaryOrderof Scandia » Wed May 01, 2013 5:04 pm

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"The legal issue is: If nation is a memeber of the WA, then international law shall apply, (with some evidence proving guilt) warranting a security council condemation, but if a nation is not a memeber of the WA, than that particular nation can do a it pleases, unless the comdeantion in question is a general statment (without any oprative cluases in this resoultion) of world opinion, " from the Security Council.

AGAINST!!!!!!
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Postby Eist » Wed May 01, 2013 6:08 pm

I am once again disappointed in world delegates that this is in all likelihood going to make quorum. It's a poorly written proposal for a nation that has yet to do anything of note in this game.
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Postby Leutria » Mon May 06, 2013 3:45 am

I would agree with my fellow delegates that a nation that is not in the WA should not be condemned for not following WA resolutions. Furthermore in comparing back to passed condemnations I believe even of Emporia Towers was in the WA this would not be quite enough to condemn them.

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Postby Delegate Vinage » Mon May 06, 2013 10:19 am

The positive thing about this proposal? I can claim this Scotch here on my nation's expenses.

Cheers for an otherwise waste of time
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Postby The Dourian Embassy » Mon May 06, 2013 1:12 pm

Spuddsvania wrote:POINTING OUT that The Empire of Emporia Towers has sold millions of dollars of chemicals for "Military Applications" to numerous WA and non-WA nations through the company Spaarti Biotechnology such as:


THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS.

I cannot abide the fact that they've sold millions of dollars in chemical weapons and I won't accept it.

They ought to be condemned, and strongly too, because it is frankly completely unacceptable that they are selling clearly defective weapons. How else could the possibly get by with such low prices? They're undercutting Dourian weapon sales, and this is not something I can abide. Good/Arms Inc. is a purveyor of only the absolute best of weapons... and it shows in our profit margins. The low margin nerve and viral agents of Emporia Towers are inappropriate in a free marketplace, and ought to be banned.

Remember people, for every man, woman, and child killed by a viral or chemical weapon, that's three less guns you can sell, and approximately a hundred thousand bullets. This has to stop and it has to stop now.
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Postby Emporia Towers » Mon May 06, 2013 5:07 pm

The Dourian Embassy wrote:They ought to be condemned, and strongly too, because it is frankly completely unacceptable that they are selling clearly defective weapons. How else could the possibly get by with such low prices? They're undercutting Dourian weapon sales, and this is not something I can abide. Good/Arms Inc. is a purveyor of only the absolute best of weapons... and it shows in our profit margins. The low margin nerve and viral agents of Emporia Towers are inappropriate in a free marketplace, and ought to be banned.

Remember people, for every man, woman, and child killed by a viral or chemical weapon, that's three less guns you can sell, and approximately a hundred thousand bullets. This has to stop and it has to stop now.

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Postby Wartom » Tue May 07, 2013 9:11 am

Why is this even being voted on?

WA has really fallen low.
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Postby Orisonte » Tue May 07, 2013 9:53 am

Wartom wrote:Why is this even being voted on?

WA has really fallen low.


That's why my nation isn't and probably won't ever be part of it. Such silly moralism that bothers even outsiders is outrageous.
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Postby Kringalia » Tue May 07, 2013 11:03 am

The Republic of Kringalia in agreeing that Emporia Towards is not subject to the jurisdiction of the WA will vote AGAINST this resolution.
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Postby Iron States » Tue May 07, 2013 11:14 am

AGAINST
Dear Security Council,
The Democratic Republic has been advised The Security Council and the World Assembly, in their charters, both declare that either force has no power over a Nation which does not have membership in the WA. Emporia Towers has no such membership which would violate the carter and should be deamed ilegal. Therefor the Iron States is AGAINST the resolution at hand.

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Postby Jarjarbinks (Ancient) » Tue May 07, 2013 11:45 am

why are we debating this? the nation that is being condemned is not even WA. the lack of evidence is just icing on the cake.

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Postby The Red Legion » Tue May 07, 2013 11:48 am

The Red Legion also agree this legislation is a total waste of WA time.

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Postby Nation of Doom » Tue May 07, 2013 11:54 am

The Nation of Emporia Towers has the right to distribute as they see fit and whole heartedly support them

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OUTRAGEOUS!

Postby Orisonte » Tue May 07, 2013 12:20 pm

The Most Serene Republic of Orisonte is not a WA member. However, we feel that we must denounce this outrage. With what right do your SC decide to condemn or not a nation that has NOT agreed to any of these resolutions? Are they at fault for not abiding to YOUR one-sided rules? This is a direct attack to our independence as legitimate not-member nations and to our right to rule ourselves. Orisonte won't quietly accept this abuse of power.
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Postby Imperium of Tanith » Tue May 07, 2013 12:46 pm

And This is the reason why I no longer support any possible Resolutions.

I'm also seriously contemplating about making a Resolution that says people have to pass a Fething IQ Test to join the Security Council.

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Postby Nautic » Tue May 07, 2013 1:35 pm

Sadly I was not fully on top of the South Pacific motion, for I think many of you who felt the motion was "pointless" could just have done with a little evidence. As for Milgorad, there is no good he's done for that nation; in fact, he's simply culling nations that he doesn't care for at a complete whim.

For example, my new nation of Nautic was initially placed there and- without cause or reason- thrown out by Milgorad. Perhaps since I did not get around to endorsing him within 3 days of making the account, it was unacceptable I remain in the South Pacific.

As for someone who isn't technically part of the WA, members of the SECURITY council must take note of the threat to SECURITY an open arms dealer in weapons that are widely regarded as immoral and illegal poses to other nations who are members- not to mention people, since most put stock in human life. I am FOR this resolution, as I am a person AGAINST apathy.

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Postby ErasmoGnome » Tue May 07, 2013 2:58 pm

ErasmoGnome stands firmly AGAINST this resolution, for reasons already stated numerous times above.
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