[DEFEATED] Condemn Feux

[Frisbeeteria]

link to proposal http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vie ... 1363204688

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL
ID: afforess_1363204688

Condemn Feux
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Feux

Proposed by: Afforess

Description: Description: The Security Council,

Acknowledging the right of World Assembly member nations to express their opinions and proposals freely;

Encouraging the discourse between World Assembly member nations as a means to peacefully solve international problems and promote an international community;

Discouraged by the use of World Assembly as an unwitting weapon in private national, regional and inter-regional affairs;

Saddened by the misuse of power by extremely visible and prominent World Assembly leaders in an effort to further personal vendettas against unpopular nations and regions;

Believing that the possession of great power necessarily implies great responsibility;

Beseeching the international community to hold World Assembly delegates with great power to a higher standard;

Appalled that The Blissful Insanity of Feux would willfully and knowingly abuse it's position of trust in the World Assembly to further a personal vendetta;

Hereby condemns The Blissful Insanity of Feux.

I like how the SC criticizes Feux for not submitting a draft of his resolution, then people turn around and do the same to him.

Also, against. NE deserves to burn and with all the feeders against it, this will undoubtedly fail.

[Bears Armed]

Isn't this illegal under the 'No tit-for-tat proposals' rule?

[The divided]

Isn't this illegal under the 'No tit-for-tat proposals' rule?

Prob not. The original "tit for tat" was a hilarious back and forth set of proposals, counter proposals, condemnations of the nations writing the counter proposals, and then condemnations of those who tried to condemn the authors of the counter proposals.

This one has a long way to go before it becomes a tit for tat, and the nations have a problem with how the liberate NE resolution was passed. While I disagree with them strongly and thing Feux should be commended for being brave enough to finally nip NE in the butt, it does seem legal.

edit: and really I read tit for tat as when a condemnation is written for the sole purpose of condemning another nation for trying to condemn another nation, who usually is only condemning likewise for another nation trying to condemn someone else. A mouthful, lets break it down:

1. Nation A writes a condemnation of Nation B
2. Nation C writes a condemnation of Nation A for trying to condemn Nation B
3. Nation D writes a condemnation of Nation C for trying to condemn nation A
4. Nation E writes a condemnation of Nation D for trying to condemn Nation C, and so on.

[Eist]

I'm surprised this made quorum. He hasn't done enough to warrant this in either sense. AGAINST.

[Vladisvok Destino]

At least it's better written than what the GCRs managed to come up with, on that basis alone I'd vote in favour.

[Cerian Quilor]

I don't think either are that well written.

[Die Volkes Lebensraum]

I don't think either are that well written.

Unlike "Condemn Antifa" which will not reach quorum because we all know the SC is a popularity contest.

Need to draft a repeal for liberate nazi europe.

[Feux]

I don't think either are that well written.

Unlike "Condemn Antifa" which will not reach quorum because we all know the SC is a popularity contest.

Need to draft a repeal for liberate nazi europe.

No, it's not. You can get anything to vote if you work. Just look at this proposal.

[Cerian Quilor]

I don't think either are that well written.

Unlike "Condemn Antifa" which will not reach quorum because we all know the SC is a popularity contest.

Need to draft a repeal for liberate nazi europe.

That's not all that well written either, when you really get down to it.

[Das Volkes Lebensraum]

Unlike "Condemn Antifa" which will not reach quorum because we all know the SC is a popularity contest.

Need to draft a repeal for liberate nazi europe.

That's not all that well written either, when you really get down to it.

Better written than these.

[Cerian Quilor]

Nope.

[Walrasia]

I should point out that although I approved and will vote for this in a moment of doublethink, I also approved and voted for the original liberation. I think the liberation was a hilarious misuse of a council that is pretty much a joke anyway. However, such misuses should not go without reward/punishment in the form of a badge of honour/shame. It would be a fitting conclusion to this whole affair for the council that allowed Feux's resolution to pass to then turn around and condemn it. This will be the funniest joke yet.

[The Two Jerseys]

Normally we don't care who invades who and whatnot. But we find Feux's abuse of the SC system to orchestrate an invasion under the guise of a liberation to be totally reprehensible.

Support.

[The Gregorach]

I'll be voting for this, naturally.

[Afforess]

I'm surprised this made quorum. He hasn't done enough to warrant this in either sense. AGAINST.

Not that surprising when the author is a software developer by trade, and can quickly write up a script to telegram all 1200 WA delegates, alerting them.

No, it's not. You can get anything to vote if you work. Just look at this proposal.

Indeed. I mean, just look at your proposals.

[Feux]

I'm surprised this made quorum. He hasn't done enough to warrant this in either sense. AGAINST.

Not that surprising when the author is a software developer by trade, and can quickly write up a script to telegram all 1200 WA delegates, alerting them.

No, it's not. You can get anything to vote if you work. Just look at this proposal.

Indeed. I mean, just look at your proposals.

That was the point. Though I have to send my telegrams by hand Mr. software developer.

[Fonzopolis]

The Empire gives its complete support for this.

[Terravoss]

As much as I want to vote for this and probably will, it will make no difference, as this is not an in-character condemnation, this is retribution.

One of two things will come of this:

1. Feux will take this as an insult, and his cronies will vote against, and with the "relative" weight of their votes, this will get crushed.

2. Feux wants his badge of honour, and his cronies will support this, passing it by a landslide, completely defeating any purpose it may have served.

The liberation of Nazi Europe completely shredded any credibility this council has, and pretty much anything that passes through here for vote now (with the exception of "Emergency liberations") is just going to be a giant wankfest.

(Maybe that was Feux's devious plan in the first place........)

[Anime Daisuki]

This is a brave move that will probably fail since you are going head-on with a feeder delegate, unless of course, Feux himself wants the badge.

Either way, he doesn't really deserve it.

[Druzhina]

I'm surprised this made quorum. He hasn't done enough to warrant this in either sense. AGAINST.

I have to agree. The Supreme Soviet of Druzhina has voted firmly AGAINST this motion.

[Altius]

I firmly supported the liberation of NE, so naturally I am even more firm in my opposition to this motion. AGAINST.

[Afforess]

This is a brave move that will probably fail since you are going head-on with a feeder delegate, unless of course, Feux himself wants the badge.

Either way, he doesn't really deserve it.

On the contrary - he deserves it all the more! Should feeder delegates get a free pass on abusing Security Council powers just because they are big? Absolutely not. With more power, more responsibility.

While I expect misuse of Security Council powers from raiders like Nazi Europe, I find it stunning that a similar act from Lazarus is shrugged off.

[Feux]

This is a brave move that will probably fail since you are going head-on with a feeder delegate, unless of course, Feux himself wants the badge.

Either way, he doesn't really deserve it.

On the contrary - he deserves it all the more! Should feeder delegates get a free pass on abusing Security Council powers just because they are big? Absolutely not. With more power, more responsibility.

While I expect misuse of Security Council powers from raiders like Nazi Europe, I find it stunning that a similar act from Lazarus is shrugged off.

I would advise you campaign hard if you want to get passed the 10KI crush, or pass.

[Afforess]

I have to admit Feux, I admire your gall. This liberation will likely go down in NationStates history, creating a new era of Security Council raiding. It adds a whole new dimension to feeders and their delegates, as you all are best positioned to abuse it,

[Feux]

I have to admit Feux, I admire your gall. This liberation will likely go down in NationStates history, creating a new era of Security Council raiding. It adds a whole new dimension to feeders and their delegates, as you all are best positioned to abuse it,

Gall is what makes the game interesting.

EDIT: I am going to quote that because I find it faltering. I hope you don't mind.