NPC wrote:I like the proposal, but I believe we should also include something about protecting first responders from getting sued by victims.
That's in another proposal. Can't remember if it passed, but it was debated here not so long ago.
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by Araraukar » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:55 am
NPC wrote:I like the proposal, but I believe we should also include something about protecting first responders from getting sued by victims.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Araraukar » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:47 am
NPC wrote:Ah, I see, excellent. I apologize, I am brand new to the World Assembly.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Point Breeze » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:15 pm
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by Abacathea » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:19 pm
Point Breeze wrote:Author, I like the re-draft, I believe it has promise, but I'm afraid it'll be deleted because of the real-life reference. I believe that opening quote is from the convention that established the International Red Cross? That's a no-no.
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by Araraukar » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:11 am
Demphor wrote:You'll need this to make it look badass
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Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Flibbleites » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:59 am
Point Breeze wrote:Author, I like the re-draft, I believe it has promise, but I'm afraid it'll be deleted because of the real-life reference. I believe that opening quote is from the convention that established the International Red Cross?
by Boftie » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:32 am
Point Breeze wrote:Author, I like the re-draft, I believe it has promise, but I'm afraid it'll be deleted because of the real-life reference. I believe that opening quote is from the convention that established the International Red Cross? That's a no-no.
by Point Breeze » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:34 am
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by United Federation of Canada » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:55 pm
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Our delegation is vehemently opposed to this attempt to circumvent our national sovereignty.-Higher punishments on assaulting first responders who are on duty (i.e. Higher than a regular assault)
-Perpetrators will be convicted of ''assault'' and ''assault against first responders''.
-This includes that the perpetrator has to pay any medical costs that may be charged upon the victim.
We already have laws in place regarding assault, and we believe this is not required. We are also concerned that this will cause a significant amount of lawsuits. We beleive this will cause a significant strain on our justice system.
by BushSucks-istan » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:24 am
United Federation of Canada wrote:I will be submitting a GHR on this on the illegalities, to have this trash pulled.
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by Christian Democrats » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:11 am
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
by Oppe Ruiver » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:39 am
Because this doctor is being assaulted while doing his job of SAVING LIVES, which directly puts two people at risk.Christian Democrats wrote:Why should the punishment for assaulting a doctor, for example, be more severe than the punishment for assaulting someone else, a regular person waiting to cross the street for instance?
Christian Democrats wrote:Furthermore, this proposal criminalizes swearing against "ambulance personnel, firefighters, doctors, police officers, first responders, rescue personnel or any other civil defense units." So if I accidentally swear against the doctor who is removing a bullet from my arm after I have been shot, I will be charged with so-called "assault against a first responder" under the terms of this proposal. This hardly makes sense
by Christian Democrats » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:55 am
Oppe Ruiver wrote:Why would a doctor sue you in this case?
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
by Oppe Ruiver » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:00 am
Christian Democrats wrote:Oppe Ruiver wrote:Why would a doctor sue you in this case?
An individual sues for money. The state prosecutes individuals to have them incarcerated. If this proposal passes, then the state will have no option; it will be required to prosecute individuals who swear against a certain protected class of people.
by Christian Democrats » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:04 am
Oppe Ruiver wrote:Christian Democrats wrote:An individual sues for money. The state prosecutes individuals to have them incarcerated. If this proposal passes, then the state will have no option; it will be required to prosecute individuals who swear against a certain protected class of people.
Then people might actually learn to show some respect to others
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
by Oppe Ruiver » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:15 am
Christian Democrats wrote:Oppe Ruiver wrote:Then people might actually learn to show some respect to others
While the use of foul language is wrong, it would seem rather silly to convict people of assault and incarcerate them simply for swearing. Even sillier is the notion that this offense should be punished more harshly than actual assaults.
by Kryozerkia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:29 am
BushSucks-istan wrote:LOL dude calm down. Just vote no.United Federation of Canada wrote:I will be submitting a GHR on this on the illegalities, to have this trash pulled.
Sad. Apparently many delegates thought is was worthy, suck it up.
the OP even changed the category because of your advice. You should have said it when it was still drafting. You're too late. Mods have already looked at this proposal, once because the name was wrong and once did the WA mod. If it wasn't good enough it would have been removed ages ago.
Just because you disagree doesn't mean you have to go and report it just because you can.
You can start a repeal though!
by BushSucks-istan » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:38 am
Kryozerkia wrote:BushSucks-istan wrote:LOL dude calm down. Just vote no.
Sad. Apparently many delegates thought is was worthy, suck it up.
the OP even changed the category because of your advice. You should have said it when it was still drafting. You're too late. Mods have already looked at this proposal, once because the name was wrong and once did the WA mod. If it wasn't good enough it would have been removed ages ago.
Just because you disagree doesn't mean you have to go and report it just because you can.
You can start a repeal though!
We can still remove it if we determine that it violates the proposal rules. It's now being reviewed for legality.
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by BushSucks-istan » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:49 am
Noukar85 wrote:While the use of foul language is wrong, it would seem rather silly to convict people of assault and incarcerate them simply for swearing. Even sillier is the notion that this offense should be punished more harshly than actual assaults.
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by Araraukar » Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:39 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
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