[DEFEATED] Commend Astarial

[Sedgistan]

AWARE that Astarial has been an active contributor to NationStates for more than 8 years,

IMPRESSED by the hard work that Astarial has put into Equilism, serving in nearly every Government position including Prime Minister, Military Minister, Domestic Affairs Minister, Foreign Affairs Minister, Immigration Minister and Associate Justice,

APPLAUDING Astarial’s long-time involvement as an active defender, serving as ADN Secretary of State, Commander of the Central Defence Army, and as a member of the E-Army of Equilism,

ACKNOWLEDGING that the region of Equilism has sustained itself significantly due to the efforts of Astarial in recruitment, culture and entertainment and in leading the government affairs through several governments,

GRATIFIED by Astarial's extensive commitment to proof-reading and legislative improvement, which has endeared the nation to other members of Equilism,

RECOGNIZING that Astarial formed the Astarialn Empire, designed to bring prosperity and stability to small regions, and which has kept Warzone Europe under the Empire’s stable hand for almost 3 months, a rare length of tenure for a Warzone delegate,

MELTING at the utter cuteness of Astarialn cats, known to be the purriest in all the world,

BELIEVING that the contributions of Astarial to NationStates are extensive and deserving of recognition,

ASSERTING that the Security Council should recognise those that help to spread world peace,

Hereby commends Astarial.

Co-Authored by The Peace of Jamie Anumia

Authored by McMasterdonia.

EDIT: Updating proposal.

[Cyador]

hooray

[The Great Destruction]

I would be for this proposal if I didn't know who Astarial is. It is a decently written proposal even though I would not normally concider being a defender a reason....(let alone the soul reason practically)...to get commended.

Since I do know of Asarial, and quite familiar with Warzone happenings as I have been delegate for an extended period, and present for even longer, I have seen what this nation and its puppet state has been doing. Yes the brought some stability, but they stole control of the regions from the locals, in the guise of a policing action.

I find it hard to commend a nation for actions that were simply replacing an unstable region polulation with their own. It was not an act of mercy that happened but a self serving power grab for an organization that will remain nameless, since I do not wish to advertise for them. The spread of peace should not be force on a region, it should be offered. I feel this was little more than a disguised raid.

[Astarial]

I would be for this proposal if I didn't know who Astarial is. It is a decently written proposal even though I would not normally concider being a defender a reason....(let alone the soul reason practically)...to get commended.

Since I do know of Asarial, and quite familiar with Warzone happenings as I have been delegate for an extended period, and present for even longer, I have seen what this nation and its puppet state has been doing. Yes the brought some stability, but they stole control of the regions from the locals, in the guise of a policing action.

I find it hard to commend a nation for actions that were simply replacing an unstable region polulation with their own. It was not an act of mercy that happened but a self serving power grab for an organization that will remain nameless, since I do not wish to advertise for them. The spread of peace should not be force on a region, it should be offered. I feel this was little more than a disguised raid.

All warzone actions are raids.

You do, however, seem to be dreadfully misinformed about this particular case. The Warzone is held by the Astarialn Empire, originally taken in the name of Birth Ctrl-Z - and nobody else. And the native of WZE has had nothing but nice things to say about our presence - were there negative pushback, we would leave.

:)

I love being a WZ native. You people are so interesting!

Nice button work, Louis Framboise IV.

Your region or empire has been doing a nice job...

How long have you been here?

Thank you very much.

Applause, delegate.

Hey Johz! Stay a bit!

Haha

By the way, to the delegate, congrats on 20 days during this stint.

I'm also not exactly sure what you mean by "the nation and its puppet state". I have held the delegacy and posted on the RMB with a grand total of one nation - and it's not even the one currently in the seat.

[Cerian Quilor]

Warzones are not there for Empire Building. Such practices should not be encouraged.

[Astarial]

Why not?

Surely you do not propose that they be used only for their original intended purpose, that is, to give raiders targets other than founderless regions.

Because that worked out so well...

[Cerian Quilor]

Why not?

Surely you do not propose that they be used only for their original intended purpose, that is, to give raiders targets other than founderless regions.

Because that worked out so well...

They're not there to be held for weeks on end.

[Mahaj]

Why not?

Surely you do not propose that they be used only for their original intended purpose, that is, to give raiders targets other than founderless regions.

Because that worked out so well...

They're not there to be held for weeks on end.

nor is the rest of NS, and yet...


anyway, support.

[McMasterdonia]

Warzones are created for people to have fun with, and to take part in the R/D game. Whatever manifestation this takes.

Fundamentally I believe that Astarial is worthy of commendation, because of her long time commitment to Nationstates, her diverse experience in government, as well as the other achievements that I have listed.

I withdrew this resolution as in retrospect we decided it was better for it to be discussed here first. Of course, I support it. Feedback is welcome.

[Cerian Quilor]

They're not there to be held for weeks on end.

nor is the rest of NS, and yet...


anyway, support.

Actually, that would be wrong.

[Mahaj]

I would be for this proposal if I didn't know knew who Astarial is.

You opposed the commendation. You therefore obviously don't know who Asta is.

nor is the rest of NS, and yet...


anyway, support.

Actually, that would be wrong.

Do tell.

[Astarial]

Why not?

Surely you do not propose that they be used only for their original intended purpose, that is, to give raiders targets other than founderless regions.

Because that worked out so well...

They're not there to be held for weeks on end.

Why not? Says who?

I mean, look at The Great Destruction, who also posted in this thread. He's held Warzone Airspace for 181 days - is that somehow wrong?

[Sovreignry]

They're not there to be held for weeks on end.

Why not? Says who?

I mean, look at The Great Destruction, who also posted in this thread. He's held Warzone Airspace for 181 days - is that somehow wrong?

Yes.

[/sarcasm]

[Kulaloe WA]

Aware that Astarial has been an active contributor to Nationstates for more than 8 years.

The way this is worded is most likely illegal under Rule 4. I suggest changing to "the NationStates Community" or "the world at large" and either omitting the part about being active for eight years or re-wording it to say "as long as it has existed" or something to that effect. The second suggestion is optional and only brought up because most nations are (OOC: RP-wise) much older than the Assembly's designated "founding dates."

[Sedgistan]

Actually "NationStates" is an acceptable synonym for "the world".

[Kulaloe WA]

Actually "NationStates" is an acceptable synonym for "the world".

Really? I suppose that is logical given the number of universes involved with this organisation means there are actually multiple worlds. My suggestion on age reference still stands.

[Jamie Anumia]

Actually "NationStates" is an acceptable synonym for "the world".

Really? I suppose that is logical given the number of universes involved with this organisation means there are actually multiple worlds. My suggestion on age reference still stands.

Why? Similar terms have been used in previous proposals.

[Kulaloe WA]

Really? I suppose that is logical given the number of universes involved with this organisation means there are actually multiple worlds. My suggestion on age reference still stands.

Why? Similar terms have been used in previous proposals.

OOC: More because from an RP perspective most nations are far older than their founding dates. For example Kulaloe was founded July 22, 1730 by the merger of various Duchies throughout the peninsula. This is much earlier than 2010 or even the creation of the game. The only way Astarial's game age is cannon in RP is if Astarial has RP'ed their nation as being that age.

[Jamie Anumia]

Why? Similar terms have been used in previous proposals.

OOC: More because from an RP perspective most nations are far older than their founding dates. For example Kulaloe was founded July 22, 1730 by the merger of various Duchies throughout the peninsula. This is much earlier than 2010 or even the creation of the game. The only way Astarial's game age is cannon in RP is if Astarial has RP'ed their nation as being that age.

Astarial does not role-play her nation. Anyway, the fact is their contributions have been over 8 years.

[Zeorus]

This resolution has my support in principle. I'm more inclined to focus on Astarial's achievements and contributions to regional governments as that is the capacity in which I am most familiar with her but that's mostly likely to my ineptitude in the R/D section of gameplay.

[Kulaloe WA]

OOC: More because from an RP perspective most nations are far older than their founding dates. For example Kulaloe was founded July 22, 1730 by the merger of various Duchies throughout the peninsula. This is much earlier than 2010 or even the creation of the game. The only way Astarial's game age is cannon in RP is if Astarial has RP'ed their nation as being that age.

Astarial does not role-play her nation. Anyway, the fact is their contributions have been over 8 years.

OOC: I suppose not roleplaying at all makes her nation 8 years old ICly by default. I can accept that.

[AS22]

Just would like to point out that in my mind 3 months is not that long of a time to be a Warzone delegate when we are talking about including it in a commendation...when you consider nations like Codger and Antariel, and the delegacies of OBI.

[Mahaj]

Just would like to point out that in my mind 3 months is not that long of a time to be a Warzone delegate when we are talking about including it in a commendation...when you consider nations like Codger and Antariel, and the delegacies of OBI.

Its certainly not the longest, but its longer than most and there isn't a claim being made that it is the longest.

[AS22]

Just would like to point out that in my mind 3 months is not that long of a time to be a Warzone delegate when we are talking about including it in a commendation...when you consider nations like Codger and Antariel, and the delegacies of OBI.

Its certainly not the longest, but its longer than most and there isn't a claim being made that it is the longest.

I can see that, I'm just pointing this out to those who may not know about Codger, Ant...etc

Because I do think while the wording is considered, it may be slightly misleading to those who are not as familiar with the Warzones as you or I in terms of how "rare", impressive, or commendable it is to be the delegate of a Warzone for 3 months.

That's all.

[Octavius Caesar]

I am in full support of this proposal, it is hard to think of Asta not being worthy of a commendation. If this is submitted while I am dictatordelegate of my region it shall have my approval and vote!