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Dagguerro
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Postby Dagguerro » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:10 am

General Hammond wrote:I'm surprised nobody has yet authored a "Condemn The Dourian Embassy" for writing this unjustifiable proposal. Then again, such a proposal might be summarily deleted as some kind of rule violation.


"NOTING several ambassadors wasting the time of the Security Council with proposals containing almost no content.

AWARE that The Dourian Embassy is one of those responsible for submitting such a proposal.

REGRETTING that regional delegates approved the proposal for vote.

BELIEVING that such a proposal is a deliberate snub to the SC and hence reprehensible in nature.

Hereby CONDEMNS The Dourian Embassy"


Took about a minute to write. Don't think theres any illegalities in something like that, though I doubt it would actually pass a vote. *shrug*

Not that I care enough to actually submit one. These contentless proposals are annoying but its really up to the mods if and for how long they let people keep blindly submitting them.
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Postby Benomia » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:23 pm

You should submit that. I would, but I can't...
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Postby Hesse » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:19 pm

Well, at least the author of this proposal has his intentions upfront, rather than hidden behind a web of misinformation.

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Postby ArgenReich » Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:14 pm

This is a disgrace for the WA and for NationStates. Unbelievable.


We, The Greater German Reich, show our support to Nazi Europe's freedom!
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Postby Mahaj » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:53 pm

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Topdop wrote:This resolution is like Cormac's but without rhetoric, which means that it's practically nothing at all.


And yet it's got more than double the approvals needed for quorum. It's crap, but presumably Delegates go for brevity these days.

Approvals means nothing.
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Postby General Hammond » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:27 am

Dagguerro wrote:
General Hammond wrote:I'm surprised nobody has yet authored a "Condemn The Dourian Embassy" for writing this unjustifiable proposal. Then again, such a proposal might be summarily deleted as some kind of rule violation.


"NOTING several ambassadors wasting the time of the Security Council with proposals containing almost no content.

AWARE that The Dourian Embassy is one of those responsible for submitting such a proposal.

REGRETTING that regional delegates approved the proposal for vote.

BELIEVING that such a proposal is a deliberate snub to the SC and hence reprehensible in nature.

Hereby CONDEMNS The Dourian Embassy"


Took about a minute to write. Don't think theres any illegalities in something like that, though I doubt it would actually pass a vote. *shrug*

Not that I care enough to actually submit one. These contentless proposals are annoying but its really up to the mods if and for how long they let people keep blindly submitting them.


Would I get a "co-authored" note for this one?

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Postby Imperium Nova Roma » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:32 am

ArgenReich wrote:This is a disgrace for the WA and for NationStates. Unbelievable.


We, The Greater German Reich, show our support to Nazi Europe's freedom!

Freedom isn't in a Nazis dictionary
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Postby ArgenReich » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:52 am

Imperium Nova Roma wrote:
ArgenReich wrote:This is a disgrace for the WA and for NationStates. Unbelievable.


We, The Greater German Reich, show our support to Nazi Europe's freedom!

Freedom isn't in a Nazis dictionary


Is Freedom in the "Regions Dictionary"?

That kind of answers demonstrate this is clearly ideological and subjective.
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Postby Dagguerro » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:09 am

General Hammond wrote:Would I get a "co-authored" note for this one?


Co-authorship is usually for major contributions to the text of a proposal. And I'm not submitting it anyway, it was just an example.
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Postby The Void realm » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:31 am

Dagguerro wrote:
General Hammond wrote:Would I get a "co-authored" note for this one?


Co-authorship is usually for major contributions to the text of a proposal. And I'm not submitting it anyway, it was just an example.

Can I submit it? I'll credit you once I add more sustenance to it.
by [violet] » Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:27 pm

Official admin position is: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo no no no noooooooooooo oh god nooooooo.


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Postby Firstaria » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:51 am

ArgenReich wrote:
Imperium Nova Roma wrote:Freedom isn't in a Nazis dictionary


Is Freedom in the "Regions Dictionary"?

That kind of answers demonstrate this is clearly ideological and subjective.


No, this kind of talk is off the topic discussion subject, and should be avoided. Besides, it has been ruled out that no one can be targeted for things outside the game actions, so that means you can found the empire of Adolf Hitler and until you actually do something you could be fine...I presume, since I'm sure there are rules about nations too.

Dorian smartly found a stupid loophole, that permits him to post resolutions targeting people for their ideologies simply by not posting said ideologies. And that's just sad, but thankfully noted by the mod.
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Postby United Territories of Maniapolis » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:03 am

United Federation of Canada wrote:This actually made quorum???? :?: Do the Esteemed delegates even read these things? While I agree the the idea of Nazi Europe sounds evil, have they actually committed any atrocities lately to warrant such action?

While I would love to vote for this, it is so poorly written, drips of sarcasm, and is just plain trash.

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OCC: At least Cormac Stark's proposal has some eloquence to it. Could you maybe have put a little effort into this one? This is why the Security Council is doomed to fail, because trash like this makes quorum and we actually have to waste 3 days voting on it. Maybe you should have been condemned for continually wasting the Security Council's time with this garbage.


I have to agree with you, not enough reasons are provided to take such action.
It does sound evil indeed, but as you asked;
have they actually committed any atrocities lately to warrant such action?

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Postby Williamson » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:25 am

i can't believe this has made it the vote. This is freaken hilarious. :rofl:

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Postby Ammar » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:31 am

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Postby Zeorus » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:42 am

This is a disgrace. Even if there was content to this, NE has a perfectly legitimate form of gameplay. They aren't breaking any rules or doing anything worthy of condemnation imo. They're playing the game and playing it well. Haters gonna hate.

I remember back in the day when Delegates paid attention to proposals before approving...in the "United Stations"..... Image
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Postby Slavotska » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:42 am

And, WHY do we believe that?

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The Void realm
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Postby The Void realm » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:48 pm

I think it SHOULD be "liberated", but not by means of a poorly written SC proposal. In this case, the ends wouldn't justify the means.
by [violet] » Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:27 pm

Official admin position is: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo no no no noooooooooooo oh god nooooooo.


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I hope Max is watching.

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Postby Geilinor » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:55 pm

"Liberate NAZI EUROPE so it can become open to invasion? Well, those aren't good intentions."
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Postby Allinlia » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:05 pm

Sedgistan wrote: if you (and certain others) continue to submit idiotic, and virtually content-less proposals, there will be modly intervention - namely deletion of the proposals, and warnings for spamming the queue.

Just bear that in mind.


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Postby RB Rebecca Black » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:30 pm

Unfortunately, I bet this will pass because a lot of people will just look at the name of the region and not the content of the proposal.
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Postby Dracoria » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:31 pm

While opposing fascism in its several forms, the government of Dracoria cannot stand by and watch the WA used as a tool to open barriers for invasion - particularly since the end result would be the invaders locking the region once more. Not only will this exercise prove a waste of the Security Council's time, but it will result in yet another call in several days to liberate the region yet again, as well as in all likelihood one more vote to strike the liberation and allow them to close their borders. Rather than witnessing this gross waste of time and resources, we will be lodging a vote against this resolution and letting sleeping fascists lie.
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Postby Ecreo » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:39 pm

Due to the poorly written draft of the proposal, Ecreo must vote against it.

We would support a proposal to condemn The Dourian Embassy if further posts of this nature are put forward to security council vote. The purpose of the security council is to liberate regions that have been invaded or take preventative measures against regions that commit regular invasions.

Nothing in the draft states this is the case - for all we know we are simply opening the region up for 'liberation' for the type of tea-cosy they happen to use for official meetings! (Also, supporting this motion because NAZI EUROPE happen to follow abhorant political views sets a dangerous precedent. Should regions be liberated because they aren't capitalist free-trade democracies for example?).
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Postby Zeorus » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:44 pm

Ecreo wrote:Nothing in the draft states this is the case - for all we know we are simply opening the region up for 'liberation' for the type of tea-cosy they happen to use for official meetings! (Also, supporting this motion because NAZI EUROPE happen to follow abhorrent political views sets a dangerous precedent. Should regions be liberated because they aren't capitalist free-trade democracies for example?).


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Postby Maxaxle » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:49 pm

If this is some sort of joke, ha ha, very funny. If not, it's outright stated that its only purpose is to allow invasion, which isn't exactly the nicest thing.

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Postby Kulaloe WA » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:16 pm

I'll be brief like all the resolutions of late: Against.
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