NATION

PASSWORD

[DEFEATED] Condemn World Alliance

A carefully preserved record of the most notable World Assembly debates.
User avatar
Zebesian Space Pirates
Attaché
 
Posts: 92
Founded: Sep 25, 2011
Ex-Nation

[DEFEATED] Condemn World Alliance

Postby Zebesian Space Pirates » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:25 pm

http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vie ... 1352773187


Noticing the lies and secrecy that shrouds the World Alliance

Appalled by the fact that the founder doesn't tell the truth about its past to its members

Disappointed that the region has taken action against a nation Twice for the same crime

And In Shock that that the region does not give nations a chance to explain before they take action without even listening to the facts

Hereby Condemns World Alliance



41 More votes and it hits the SC floor! We need support! This is for the good of the international community!

Please vote if you want to help a great cause!
Last edited by Sedgistan on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:08 am, edited 5 times in total.

User avatar
Macea
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 23
Founded: Sep 05, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Macea » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:43 pm

Zebesian Space Pirates wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=zebesian_space_pirates_1352773187

Please vote if you want to help a great cause!

This is quite interesting.
“Laugh my friends, the comedy is over.”

"Well, you found me and interrogated me, just do your deeds and bury me."
"Feste, ye cafasya zei en interegazya zei, kas pelè yestas taskè en deulaser zei".

- Markus Thallis, rebel assassin found guilty of the attempted assassination of the Viceroy of Macea, RomulaXVI(2012)

User avatar
Skyrim Diplomacy
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1497
Founded: Jun 25, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:45 pm

Yeah no. Nothing in there is worth an SC condemnation, nor the slightest attention from this council.

User avatar
United Fallcrest
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 100
Founded: May 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby United Fallcrest » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:46 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:Yeah no. Nothing in there is worth an SC condemnation, nor the slightest attention from this council.

I forgot that they claimed to be A Democracy when even their former Prime Minister and Former President think that they were Dictatorship. Zebesia is my nation.
Founder of The Dynasty
Proud Owner of That Bar Downstairs

User avatar
Skyrim Diplomacy
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1497
Founded: Jun 25, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:53 pm

United Fallcrest wrote:
Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:Yeah no. Nothing in there is worth an SC condemnation, nor the slightest attention from this council.

I forgot that they claimed to be A Democracy when even their former Prime Minister and Former President think that they were Dictatorship. Zebesia is my nation.

Doesn't matter in the slightest. I suggest you go read some recently passed Condemnations to get a feel for the type of material that makes a good condemnation. Honestly, nothing in this draft is even remotely worth the attention from the WA.

User avatar
Stutzmar
Civilian
 
Posts: 1
Founded: Jul 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Stutzmar » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:10 pm

I have to agree with Skyrim Diplomacy. This proposal is a waste of attention from the council. Even if it hits the floor, which is doubted, the way it is written is not attractive in the slightest. No descriptions, just allegations.

User avatar
Imperium of Tanith
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1231
Founded: Sep 29, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperium of Tanith » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:23 pm

I agree with Skyrim and Stut, I'm not tossing my support into this. Although I definitely believe there's some truth behind your allegations, You'll have to show some evidence (Pictures of TG's, Chat Logs, ect.) in order to prove it to me that there's anything there.

Proud Member of The Coalition of Steel, and The Stonewall Alliance.
★Proud Member of the United Monarchist Alliance★
Official Member of the Universal Technology Alliance!
★Comrade of the Commonwealth of Socialist States (CSS)★
This country does show my beliefs.

User avatar
Zebulor
Diplomat
 
Posts: 977
Founded: Oct 26, 2007
Ex-Nation

Postby Zebulor » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:06 pm

Not only is this proposal badly written, it is filled with lies.

The driving forces behind this resolution are power hungry nations who failed to corrupt our political system. Instead of admitting their defeat, they seek to use the Security Council to defame a region innocent of all but self-defense.

We urge the members of the Security Council to not approve this proposal.

-The People's Democracy of Zebulor
Minister of Internal Affairs of the World Alliance

User avatar
Newasia
Secretary
 
Posts: 34
Founded: Mar 20, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Newasia » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:22 pm

I agree I don't see why they think were so evil!!

User avatar
New-Zealand
Envoy
 
Posts: 236
Founded: Oct 27, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby New-Zealand » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:19 pm

This proposal is full of lies and is poorly written with no facts to support the accusations. A waste of council time if you ask me.

User avatar
Sedgistan
Site Director
 
Posts: 35491
Founded: Oct 20, 2006
Anarchy

Postby Sedgistan » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:36 am

Zebesian Space Pirates, post the text of the proposal in your first post. A link is not enough.

User avatar
Great Eurussia
Diplomat
 
Posts: 868
Founded: Sep 10, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Great Eurussia » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:50 am

This is the biggest joke the alliance ever received.
Thank you foes for giving us a little publicity.

I invite all WA members to read our rmb and forums.
Also, check the link below and see who is Charlzilla.
This is a forum post sent to us by Satan Island.

Image
Last edited by Great Eurussia on Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:08 am, edited 5 times in total.

User avatar
Dagguerro
Envoy
 
Posts: 343
Founded: Apr 05, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby Dagguerro » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:24 am

Poorly written. Lots of allegations with no evidence. Unattractively laid out. Nowhere near enough material for a condemnation. Appears to be basically a personal grudge. Was not posted for a public drafting period before submission.

Please take your petty spat elsewhere. Against.

- Lord Swift
Patrician Lord Nicholas Ashemore - Elected Supreme Leader of The Benevolent Empire of Dagguerro

His Excellency Lord Daniel Swift - Dagguerrean Ambassador to the World Assembly

User avatar
United Fallcrest
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 100
Founded: May 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby United Fallcrest » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:41 am

Great Eurussia wrote:This is the biggest joke the alliance ever received.
Thank you foes for giving us a little publicity.

I invite all WA members to read our rmb and forums.
Also, check the link below and see who is Charlzilla.
This is a forum post sent to us by Satan Island.

(Image)

The thing is Eurussia, I turned him in about a month ago, and you were fine with it. Satan Island, who has always been against you guys, then got those at the same time. The message is the same as the one I sent Namor to show you guys, but he saved them and now you get mad at Charlzilla and take it out on my region for something that you got over a month ago? WTF?
Founder of The Dynasty
Proud Owner of That Bar Downstairs

User avatar
Namor
Minister
 
Posts: 3489
Founded: Mar 28, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Namor » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:42 pm

Although I must criticize the World Alliance for having more nations who are not willing to help the region than those who do, I must say that this proposal is trash. If it ever comes official Namor will vehemently vote against it. Good day, and continue oppressing your people, Fascists.
Last edited by Namor on Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.
NMR-free since August 2017!

User avatar
United Fallcrest
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 100
Founded: May 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby United Fallcrest » Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:34 pm

Here is the one I sent a month ago:
Image too big for forum so click here...

Same thing bruh! Can't punish him if you didn't get mad before!
Founder of The Dynasty
Proud Owner of That Bar Downstairs

User avatar
Great Eurussia
Diplomat
 
Posts: 868
Founded: Sep 10, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Great Eurussia » Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:41 pm

United Fallcrest wrote:
Great Eurussia wrote:This is the biggest joke the alliance ever received.
Thank you foes for giving us a little publicity.

I invite all WA members to read our rmb and forums.
Also, check the link below and see who is Charlzilla.
This is a forum post sent to us by Satan Island.

(Image)

The thing is Eurussia, I turned him in about a month ago, and you were fine with it. Satan Island, who has always been against you guys, then got those at the same time. The message is the same as the one I sent Namor to show you guys, but he saved them and now you get mad at Charlzilla and take it out on my region for something that you got over a month ago? WTF?


Yes it is fine before. But after Satan Island sent us a proof of conspiracy between him and Charlzilla, I vowed to break all diplomatic ties with the latter and his allies and worst, invader allies. And now just because we rejected your embassy request you turn to the Security Council to revenge on us? If you are really sincere in pursuing diplomatic ties with the World Alliance, prove it.

User avatar
United Fallcrest
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 100
Founded: May 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby United Fallcrest » Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:00 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:
United Fallcrest wrote:The thing is Eurussia, I turned him in about a month ago, and you were fine with it. Satan Island, who has always been against you guys, then got those at the same time. The message is the same as the one I sent Namor to show you guys, but he saved them and now you get mad at Charlzilla and take it out on my region for something that you got over a month ago? WTF?


Yes it is fine before. But after Satan Island sent us a proof of conspiracy between him and Charlzilla, I vowed to break all diplomatic ties with the latter and his allies and worst, invader allies. And now just because we rejected your embassy request you turn to the Security Council to revenge on us? If you are really sincere in pursuing diplomatic ties with the World Alliance, prove it.


I don't give a damn about Charlzilla anymore. I banned him and everything, but I am just wondering why you punish people twice. Charlzilla sent the first telegrams to me and Charlzilla and I showed proof that Charlzilla had jumped on the bandwagon. I just don't think it is fair to punish someone twice, the second time being refusing embassies with their region and saying that you are cutting off ties with the region. Its fine now, let it all dumb down...
Founder of The Dynasty
Proud Owner of That Bar Downstairs

User avatar
Namor
Minister
 
Posts: 3489
Founded: Mar 28, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Namor » Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:10 pm

Look, this is a matter that the World Assembly shouldn't even give anything about. This is a region-vs-region matter, not an international matter, so all sides drop it. Give the WA people a break, they don't want to deal with something puny as this.
NMR-free since August 2017!

User avatar
Great Eurussia
Diplomat
 
Posts: 868
Founded: Sep 10, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Great Eurussia » Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:15 pm

As I have said, in behalf of the WA Government, if you want to mend ties, make the effort.
By the way, I was wondering about the The Dynasty.
It tagged itself as Anti-Security Council and now why are they here?

Image
Last edited by Great Eurussia on Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
United Fallcrest
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 100
Founded: May 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby United Fallcrest » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:55 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:As I have said, in behalf of the WA Government, if you want to mend ties, make the effort.
By the way, I was wondering about the The Dynasty.
It tagged itself as Anti-Security Council and now why are they here?

(Image)


We put that because we hate Liberations. Also, I don't care if we are peaceful, because there is corruption in your region.
Last edited by United Fallcrest on Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Founder of The Dynasty
Proud Owner of That Bar Downstairs

User avatar
Typhlochactas
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9405
Founded: Jul 12, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Typhlochactas » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:00 pm

Poorly written, lacks substance even if its allegations are true, and a general waste of time for this body to consider. This seems like a personal grudge and vendetta rather than a serious attempt to punish a nation for breaching international peace and good will.

Dr. Mahdi Obeidi
Typhlinian Delegate to the World Assembly

User avatar
United Fallcrest
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 100
Founded: May 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby United Fallcrest » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:10 pm

Typhlochactas wrote:Poorly written, lacks substance even if its allegations are true, and a general waste of time for this body to consider. This seems like a personal grudge and vendetta rather than a serious attempt to punish a nation for breaching international peace and good will.

Dr. Mahdi Obeidi
Typhlinian Delegate to the World Assembly

Then why does it have 26 approvals?
Founder of The Dynasty
Proud Owner of That Bar Downstairs

User avatar
Typhlochactas
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9405
Founded: Jul 12, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Typhlochactas » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:14 pm

United Fallcrest wrote:
Typhlochactas wrote:Poorly written, lacks substance even if its allegations are true, and a general waste of time for this body to consider. This seems like a personal grudge and vendetta rather than a serious attempt to punish a nation for breaching international peace and good will.

Dr. Mahdi Obeidi
Typhlinian Delegate to the World Assembly

Then why does it have 26 approvals?


I believe that you have put forward a fallacy of argument called an argument from popularity.

Dr. Mahdi Obeidi
Typhlinian Delegate to the World Assembly

User avatar
United Fallcrest
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 100
Founded: May 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby United Fallcrest » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:28 pm

Typhlochactas wrote:
United Fallcrest wrote:Then why does it have 26 approvals?


I believe that you have put forward a fallacy of argument called an argument from popularity.

Dr. Mahdi Obeidi
Typhlinian Delegate to the World Assembly

Believe me. Its not a fallacy.
Founder of The Dynasty
Proud Owner of That Bar Downstairs

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to WA Archives

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users

Advertisement

Remove ads