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The balkens
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Postby The balkens » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:49 am

we of the balkens support this repeal..but we are concerned say the black hawks (or any outside group) invades what is to happen?

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Shemiki
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Postby Shemiki » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:16 pm

Not much unless they can get by the password.

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Collingwood1
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Postby Collingwood1 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:22 pm

i support it you have done heaps for your region good luck
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Newtered States
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Postby Newtered States » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:03 pm

Why are people voting against? I mean, yeah it's Hippies...but this makes it easier to raid again. Or to refound. Really a win for everyone.
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Terra Ishtar
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Postby Terra Ishtar » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:27 pm

I shall vote for this resolution, but I have one problem: My main fear with this is that TBH may use this brief time of unprotected-ness to slip in another sleeper nation, thereby making the process futile. I formally suggest the Security Council monitor those who enter the region until it is password-protected.

Also: FOR
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Norsklow
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Postby Norsklow » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:41 am

Inasmuch as the native Hippies,
having successfully restored Law and Order ( in whatever drugs-confused way Hippies see that )
in their native region, wish to be freed from outside interference,
it is the pleasure of Norsklow to

A] congratulate the Hippies with the restoration of the status quo ante in their native region

B] vote FOR to their proposal to be restored to their own control.
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Hicdarr
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Postby Hicdarr » Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:43 am

As a resident of Hippiedom, I hope that everyone is voting FOR this. We are planning to take precautions to protect ourselves from attacks in the future but we are really stuck without this passing, unable to do anything but maintain the status quo. As it is, we are sitting here targets for yet another invasion with no way to protect ourselves or prevent it.

Please vote FOR Repeal Liberate Hippiedom for us.

Special note for 10000 Islands: as well known protectors and heroes for the repressed, we'd love to see you support us in this vote.

Thanks.

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25 Hof
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Postby 25 Hof » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:30 am

Anyone care to explain why 10000 Islands' WAD is against this one?

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Free Detroit
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Postby Free Detroit » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:31 am

Voting FOR, with best wishes for the natives.
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Skyrim Diplomacy
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:49 am

25 Hof wrote:Anyone care to explain why 10000 Islands' WAD is against this one?

The XKI delegate votes the way the region does. The members of XKI must be against this particular proposal. Why does everyone assume XKI will automatically side with this is the bigger question.

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Maripe
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Postby Maripe » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:54 am

As a Hippiedom native, I support this. Now that our proper delegate has been restored, we should have the ability to password protect returned to the region. The liberation has served its purpose.
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25 Hof
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Postby 25 Hof » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:11 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:The XKI delegate votes the way the region does. The members of XKI must be against this particular proposal. Why does everyone assume XKI will automatically side with this is the bigger question.


You're right, that might have been a wrong assumption.

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Ora Amaris
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Postby Ora Amaris » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:40 pm

Please vote FOR.
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Postby Delaroca » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:14 pm

Please support the repeal of "Liberate Hippiedom."

I am a native, and we strongly desire to have the ability to adequately protect our Pachouli- and tie-dye-loving region.

Please, 10000 Islands, support our cause. Your region was a welcoming refuge to me after I was rejected and banned from the region during TBH invasion, and nations in your region then offered me their support.

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Skyrim Diplomacy
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:18 pm

Delaroca wrote:Please support the repeal of "Liberate Hippiedom."

I am a native, and we strongly desire to have the ability to adequately protect our Pachouli- and tie-dye-loving region.

Please, 10000 Islands, support our cause. Your region was a welcoming refuge to me after I was rejected and banned from the region during TBH invasion, and nations in your region then offered me their support.

How long must one be in a region before they are considered a native? I would say longer than one month, IMHO. Not that it's really relevant to this particular discussion, but still.

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Postby Strawberrry Fields » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:28 pm

Delaroca has been a member of Hippiedom for some time, the length of residency is low because he was one of the nations ejected during the Black Hawks raid, so he's only been back for under a month.

Thanks to everyone who has supported this resolution, we really appreciate it.
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Postby Delegate Vinage » Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:45 am

I, Vinage v. Grey-Anumia, World Assembly Delegate and President of Europeia will be voting NAY after a 4/5 internal vote decided said action. We feel that liberations should be the last port of call, rather than the first, and bring together the NS-world in a sign of solidarity to stop a region being wrongly refounded. Not the first tool when a region is passworded. We are against this, therefore, on the simple principle that it should not have existed in the first place and wish that, if this liberation does continue, those who actively support and draft Liberations on a regular basis will think twice about it being their first strategy.

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Ora Amaris
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Postby Ora Amaris » Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:41 pm

Delegate Vinage wrote:I, Vinage v. Grey-Anumia, World Assembly Delegate and President of Europeia will be voting NAY after a 4/5 internal vote decided said action. We feel that liberations should be the last port of call, rather than the first, and bring together the NS-world in a sign of solidarity to stop a region being wrongly refounded. Not the first tool when a region is passworded. We are against this, therefore, on the simple principle that it should not have existed in the first place and wish that, if this liberation does continue, those who actively support and draft Liberations on a regular basis will think twice about it being their first strategy.

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Shouldn't you support this if you oppose liberations?
And, what do you mean last "port of call" and not "the first tool when a region is passworded"?
Do, pray tell, how a region is supposed to get out of a raider-induced password?
As I recall, this liberation WAS a last measure.
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Postby Unified Provinces » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:09 pm

I support this repeal based on the evidence Skyrim Diplomacy submitted. I just hope that the Hippies take the right precautions so an invasion doesn't happen during the refounding process as others have said.
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