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Postby Capisaria » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:25 pm

We vote for, but worry about the void it will create. We need a better written replacement.

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Postby Icesun » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:44 pm

The Constitutional Monarchy of Icesun is in favour of this repeal but firmly voices it's wish for there to be a better written replacement to "On Experation Dates" to fill the void this may cause.

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Postby Christian Democrats » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:49 pm

Why all the calls for a replacement? Can't nations determine food labels for their own jurisdictions?
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Postby Capisaria » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:53 pm

the can, but they may not, at the expense of people and the benefit of corporations.

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Postby Icesun » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:08 pm

Capisaria wrote:the can, but they may not, at the expense of people and the benefit of corporations.


Exactly, and this is Icesun's concern. We would feel accountable of there wasn't some sort of replacement put in place and countries who failed to regulate cost people their lives.
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Postby Ironicness » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:51 pm

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Postby The Eternal Kawaii » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:18 pm

Capisaria wrote:the can, but they may not, at the expense of people and the benefit of corporations.


Selling spoiled food is against the law among Kawaiians. Expiration dates are there as much for the protection of the seller as they are for the buyer.

As for the repeal, we support it. The resolution as it stands is useless and potentially deceptive. WA nations would be better off without it on the books, even if no replacement was passed.
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Postby Swith Witherward » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:30 pm

There is more to packaging "expiration dates". For reference...

The following is from source.
How the expiration date is determined depends on what kind of food you are speaking of. Most foods, however, require scientific tests in order to determine the expiration date. Take perishables, such as meat, poultry, eggs and dairy products. The expiration dates for products like these is called "open dating." "Open dating" is the use of a calendar date as opposed to a code on a food product. When the food is produced, scientists do tests to determine the approximated expiration date of the product tested.

For canned foods, such as canned kidney beans, the general rule of thumb is that the food is good until two years after the food is packaged, and the date of packaging is usually on the purchased can. To stay its freshest, canned food should be kept in room temperature, or seventy-five degrees and below.

Typically, these are the most common types of "dates" when it comes to food products:

"SELL BY" >> A "Sell-By" date tells the store how long to display the product for sale. You should buy the product before the date expires.

"BEST IF USED BY/BEFORE" >> A "Best if Used By/Before" date is recommended for best flavor or quality. It is not a purchase or safety date.

"USE-BY" >> A "Use-By" date is the last date recommended for the use of the product while at peak quality. The date has been determined by the manufacturer of the product.

"CLOSED/CODED DATES >> "Closed or coded dates" are packing numbers for use by the manufacturer.

Here is a cool website I ran across which indicates the expiration dates of different edibles, household and beauty items and supplies.
http://www.organizeyourlife.org/Expiration.htm

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http://www.internet-grocer.net/exp-date.htm
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/Factsheets/Food_Product_Dating/index.asp
http://www.foodreference.com/html/tcannedfoodshelflife.html
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=56270
http://dev1.gourmetsleuth.com/Articles/food-expiration-dates-faqs.aspx


Each nation has their own drug and food guidelines as well. Before we can consider what should or should not be placed on labels, I have to ask if we have a standardization between all nations. It would be easy for one nation to gain economic ground over another by claiming longer shelf life due to "better processing techniques" etc when in fact the nation in question has substandard practices.

I have to consider the issue further prior to voting.
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Postby Eurussia » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:55 am

Eurussia have voted IN FAVOR of the General Assembly Resolution "Repeal On Expiration Dates."
Our nation believes that the arguments for the repeal have basis and is a matter of internal affairs.

Eurussia advices all WA members of the region to reconsider their votes and go in favor of this resolution.

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Postby New Tarajan » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:26 am

After the reading of both the original Resolution and this Repeal, the delegate of New Tarajan VOTE FOR the repeal itself.
We also agree with our collegues who have affirmed that this matter is exclusive concern for the national legislator.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:53 pm

We vote in favour, and we would not decide on whether we would support a replacement right now.

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Postby Hdsoghsdgf » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:02 pm

Why don't we come to a compromise and propose a resolution
that does both. Consumers will get twice the protection. We must
keep these dates to ensure the safety if customers just in case the
calculations of the storekeeper are inaccurate. Mistakes could cost
a life.

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Postby Kloogoos » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:14 pm

The arguments for the repeal are solid and effective. We support the repeal and urge all nations to vote in favor of it.

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Postby Swith Witherward » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:56 pm

Hdsoghsdgf wrote:Why don't we come to a compromise and propose a resolution
that does both. Consumers will get twice the protection. We must
keep these dates to ensure the safety if customers just in case the
calculations of the storekeeper are inaccurate. Mistakes could cost
a life.


I agree. We'd rather see twice the protection than worry about those mistakes.
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Postby Mousebumples » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:33 am

Swith Witherward wrote:
Hdsoghsdgf wrote:Why don't we come to a compromise and propose a resolution
that does both. Consumers will get twice the protection. We must
keep these dates to ensure the safety if customers just in case the
calculations of the storekeeper are inaccurate. Mistakes could cost
a life.


I agree. We'd rather see twice the protection than worry about those mistakes.

It's quite wonderful that that is your preference. However, such an option is not allowable under WA law. Per The Secretariat, Amendments (and duplication) are illegal and will get a proposal removed from the proposal list.

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Postby Hdsoghsdgf » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:45 am

A mild resolution is unacceptable now that I look at it.
What if the distributors' calculations are incorrect?
I vote for this resolution, and urge other colleagues on the
floor to vote for this resolution.

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Postby Ruski Federation » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:30 pm

I voted to repeal the expiration dates as well.

Just a little question, can I make a joke proposal? I want to have some fun.
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Postby United States of Republicans » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:31 pm

I called to repeal expiration dates make things last longer

we need survival and stuff so U.S.R agree's to repeal Expiration dates

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Postby Super Peanut Butter and Jelly Land » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:42 pm

Super Peanut Butter and Jelly Land supports this. PB&J must be made with fresh ingredients.

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Postby Capisaria » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:31 pm

Super Peanut Butter and Jelly Land wrote:Super Peanut Butter and Jelly Land supports this. PB&J must be made with fresh ingredients.


WIN. :rofl: :rofl:

But seriously. I think we need to consider the fact that people may die or get very sick, and in nations with poor healthcare, it could lead to death, bankruptcy. Perhaps a standardized system is in order. If not, perhaps an agreement separate from the WA, a pact, that agrees to regulate food and protect consumer's at an international level.

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Postby Flibbleites » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:59 am

Ruski Federation wrote:Just a little question, can I make a joke proposal? I want to have some fun.

You're welcome to write one and post it to the forum for us all to laugh at. However submitting such proposals for approval is against the Proposal Rules, so I don't recommend that.

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Postby Eurussia » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:22 pm

Eurussia is pleased to announce that the General Assembly Resolution "Repeal On Expiration Dates" has been repealed.

Our nation congratulates all countries who supported the same position as ours. Thank you!

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Postby Tzenzariah-Nkri » Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:54 am

isnt this passed? why not lock topic then.

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Postby Mousebumples » Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:13 am

Tzenzariah-Nkri wrote:isnt this passed? why not lock topic then.

The Secretariat usually leaves At Vote threads open for a few days (ish) to allow for continued debate and discussion after a resolution's passage or failure at vote. Eventually, the thread will be moved to the WA Archives, which is a locked subforum.
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Postby Capisaria » Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:35 pm

Indeed. Who else likes my idea of an agreement to sign on to individually that would use some of the same wording and better wording from On Expiration Dates.

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