Glen-Rhodes wrote:Well, no, not if the apple was previously "placed into the Commons". It wouldn't be seizing it from any owner, since property within the Commons is not owned by anybody. The Commons isn't some foreign, obscure invention, Ambassador Tyvok, and perhaps you should take some time to do a little research.
And exactly how do you propose to do that without taking it away? If you don't take it, Doctor Castro, it amounts to all of a flowery declaration, much like Senate Resolution 1776 that passed in Krioval, placing the entirety of the Commonwealth of Glen-Rhodes into the commons. Thus, at some point, either somebody is going to take possession of the property or they aren't. If they do, it's property seizure. If they don't, then it's a declaration of nothingness. So which is it, then?
Let's assume that a nation is seeking to move from a 'private' system to socialism. They have robust private industries, but those industries have done a poor job of providing to everybody, so the government wants to step in and provide those services for free. Take healthcare, for example. Private insurance and for-profit healthcare need to be eradicated, so that the government is able to dictate the costs of this essential service. Under this resolution, they would have to buy each and every insurance provider, hospital, doctor's office, etc. The cost is enormous and will never be recuperated. Now repeat this for every essential industry that any given socialist state usually nationalizes. It's impossible to pay for this, without driving the nation into economic turmoil. So, troves of new socialist states are essentially killed before they're born, not because of any conceived inefficiency with socialism itself, but because this resolution makes the costs impossibly high. If anything, the World Assembly should now be compensating fledgling socialist states, since you've basically robbed them of their economic freedom of self-determination.
Can we also assume that the government isn't comprised of idiots lacking all economic perspective while we're at it? All right, then. Rather than "eradicat[ing]" all private healthcare industry with a single stroke of the pen, perhaps the government should consider regulating the industry first? Maybe they could create a competitor to private industry? Perhaps the government could content itself with buying out only the largest players in the healthcare industry, and not worry about the local doctor's offices? This entire debate is predicated on people's abilities, including those in a government, to think for more than ten seconds about how to run an economy. Are you actually suggesting, Doctor Castro, that Krioval should shed tears over the most bumbling efforts to nationalize industry when a group of graduate students could do it more efficiently and with less misery for everybody involved? The costs are perfectly reasonable when considering any transition short of starting from laissez-faire capitalism and moving immediately toward total collectivism, wherein personal residences and the corner store are administered by the state, which occurs so rarely that the Imperial Chiefdom is unable to describe any such transition that occurs outside of period of war.
[Lord] Ambassador Darvek Tyvok
Imperial Chiefdom of Krioval
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