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[PASSED] Condemn Milograd (Part II)

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Shemiki
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Postby Shemiki » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:14 pm

Just refuse to join Milogradian RP's.
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Postby Connopolis » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:34 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:I've always been a fan of Connopolis and his stellar writing abilities. This proposal has garnered my approval and will get my vote should it reach quorum.

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I'm flattered, I really am! I'm appreciative always of your support, as am I towards everyone that is making this condemnation of Milo possible.
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New Chesterfield
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Postby New Chesterfield » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:49 pm

New Chesterfield will vote against, however, we will provide aid to civilians in the event of an invasion.

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Cylarn
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Postby Cylarn » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:10 pm

Madame Delegate Howell,

How do you propose we strengthen this condemnation of Milograd's actions? I suggest a series of embargoes against Milograd, rather than immediately resorting to military action. I would like to hear your opinion on this matter.

-Ambassador Lewis Monroe, Cylarnian Delegate to the World Assembly and Regional World Assembly Delegate for The Land of Complete and Utter Absurdity.
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:18 pm

Cylarn wrote:Madame Delegate Howell,

How do you propose we strengthen this condemnation of Milograd's actions? I suggest a series of embargoes against Milograd, rather than immediately resorting to military action. I would like to hear your opinion on this matter.

-Ambassador Lewis Monroe, Cylarnian Delegate to the World Assembly and Regional World Assembly Delegate for The Land of Complete and Utter Absurdity.

That's a violation of Rule 3, unfortunately, and not something the SC can enforce. Ergo, it should not be discussed in the proposal thread.

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Postby Cylarn » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:20 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:
Cylarn wrote:Madame Delegate Howell,

How do you propose we strengthen this condemnation of Milograd's actions? I suggest a series of embargoes against Milograd, rather than immediately resorting to military action. I would like to hear your opinion on this matter.

-Ambassador Lewis Monroe, Cylarnian Delegate to the World Assembly and Regional World Assembly Delegate for The Land of Complete and Utter Absurdity.

That's a violation of Rule 3, unfortunately, and not something the SC can enforce. Ergo, it should not be discussed in the proposal thread.


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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:30 pm

*arrives*
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OOC: Milograd condemned twice FTW. o/

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New Tarajan
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Postby New Tarajan » Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:06 am

The Kingdom of New Tarajan strictly condemn the foolish acts of the govern of Milograd, and firmly supports this resolution.
Racism, social engineering and genocide are simply crazy ideas, and our Kingdom will support any kind of efforts in order to make these abject things only a remembrance.

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Postby Sovereign Fraternal Order of Spartans » Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:29 pm

I agree with this condemnation and my nation will gladly participate in any military action taken against Milograd. However with that said, Milograd should atleast have the right to speak and defend themselves.

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The Christendom of NOD
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Condemnation of Milograd

Postby The Christendom of NOD » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:17 pm

I am resolutely against the policies of Milograd and it's innate suppression of the freedoms we as sovereign nations hold dear. However we need not condemn its oppressed citizenry they are merely slaves within its totalitarian borders. I strongly suggest and do so myself believe that we the sovereigns of this world need to extend a hand to the brainwashed persecuted people of Milograd. Tonight's millions within the confines of that physical hell called a nation will die. Let us open our borders and take in the souls who are so persecuted and make suffer the tyrants and helpers of tyrants in that hell called Milograd.

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The Changeling Queen
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Postby The Changeling Queen » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:45 pm

I am neither racist or genocidal (at least not usually for the latter) but as he is a "dictator" and a ruthless leader I feel it is my duty to support him. Also social and genetical engineering is not exactly "bad" in my opinion. And regarding his torture/death penalty, mine is quite horrific as well, involving a very blunt spoon, a table with straps, a blood bucket, a torch, and possibly bamboo seeds. So, I feel no desire to "save" citizens of his population from a gruesome death. I will leave the judgement of who lives and who "dissapears" to Milo. Needless to say, you will not have my support on the matter and I will vote against the proposal.

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Postby Feux » Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:34 pm

The Christendom of NOD wrote:I am resolutely against the policies of Milograd and it's innate suppression of the freedoms we as sovereign nations hold dear. However we need not condemn its oppressed citizenry they are merely slaves within its totalitarian borders. I strongly suggest and do so myself believe that we the sovereigns of this world need to extend a hand to the brainwashed persecuted people of Milograd. Tonight's millions within the confines of that physical hell called a nation will die. Let us open our borders and take in the souls who are so persecuted and make suffer the tyrants and helpers of tyrants in that hell called Milograd.

I don't think this belongs here.
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Postby New Tarajan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:07 am

I am neither racist or genocidal (at least not usually for the latter) but as he is a "dictator" and a ruthless leader I feel it is my duty to support him. Also social and genetical engineering is not exactly "bad" in my opinion. And regarding his torture/death penalty, mine is quite horrific as well, involving a very blunt spoon, a table with straps, a blood bucket, a torch, and possibly bamboo seeds. So, I feel no desire to "save" citizens of his population from a gruesome death. I will leave the judgement of who lives and who "dissapears" to Milo. Needless to say, you will not have my support on the matter and I will vote against the proposal.


The point is not the authoritatian kind of government. The Kingdom of New Tarajan is a fierce opponent of liberal democracies. The problem is that Milograd is a totalitarian system, which is drastically different, and that cititzens (or maybe it would be more correct "slaves") within its borders are terribly suffering. We need to take strong actions against those governants who don't care about their people.
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The Rogueish Megalodon
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Postby The Rogueish Megalodon » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:57 am

Recognizing that this condemnation will not have the desired effect, and will indeed feed the evil ego of Milograd administration by enforcing its infamy,

The Rogue Nation of The Rogueish Megalodon hereby votes AGAINST this resolution.

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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:05 am

Votes for condemning this nation and encourages all nations do the same thing.
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Postby Yohannes » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:14 am

The Yohannesian observer-representative to the World Assembly, Dr Julius Akandoni Hermansenn has noted the eagerness and raucous sound of threats which the representatives of multiple overseas nations have made pertinent to the strategic initiative of "invading Milograd" or "invading Gholgoth." The chaotic forty-six plagues, magnanimous and most benevolent realms of the forty-six Lords of Gholgoth. Harbinger of destruction and fear upon the International Incidents' community.

The white-haired descendant of the 2nd Earl of Cheshire cannot but avoid to crack a bellowing, joyous laughter.

"They may try to send their joint-invasion forces to the region of Gholgoth...! I do say rightly upon their barest of minds...!" Never in his brief yet enjoyable role as Her Imperial Majesty's observer to the World Assembly had Dr Julius heard such a ridiculous statement made in unison.

"Condemn Milograd!"
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Postby Debit » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:36 pm

I think we should.... just, like.... chill... or if you wanna be all like- government- stuff, then DEBIT VOTES AGAINST. THIS FROM THE ALLMIGHTY KING OF THE SHTETLE!

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Postby Cromarty » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:13 pm

Shemiki wrote:Just refuse to join Milogradian RP's.

Why? Milograd is a supremely talented RPer, and I'd be proud to rp alongside him when he returns.
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Gullud
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Postby Gullud » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:43 pm

Cylarn wrote:On behalf of the estimated 400,000 Vbingvanian refugees who have fled to Cylarn as a result of the Milogradian Invasion, I vehemently condemn Milograd for its actions. These horrific acts are truly disgusting and vile, having no place in this world.

A condemnation is not enough, but military against Milograd would be suicide without support. If we attempted to send in troops, the other nations of Gholgoth would most likely see this as an act of aggression against the entire region and render our operation futile. I ask that all WA member-nations proceed with caution.

- Ambassador Lewis Monroe, Cylarnian Delegate to the World Assembly and Regional World Assembly Delegate for The Land of Complete and Utter Absurdity.


We in Gullud will assist with an military action if one does come. We are no happy at the news from Milogard. This is the time for heroes. I hope that your nation will be one of those heroes.

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War is may be necessary

Postby The Christendom of NOD » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:55 pm

War may be necessary in order to bend a nation to the norms of society. Gross injustice to human life and aggression towards other nations does in my opinion constitute military action if the nation in question refuses to listen to its piers and obey sanctions put against it. That being said Plau and it's delegates are willing to conduct special operations to aid in the ousting of the current milograd government if deemed necessary. All being said history shows that tyrants can not be negotiated with.

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Postby Cylarn » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:03 pm

The Christendom of NOD wrote:War may be necessary in order to bend a nation to the norms of society. Gross injustice to human life and aggression towards other nations does in my opinion constitute military action if the nation in question refuses to listen to its piers and obey sanctions put against it. That being said Plau and it's delegates are willing to conduct special operations to aid in the ousting of the current milograd government if deemed necessary. All being said history shows that tyrants can not be negotiated with.


I do not suggest this, as Milograd has a large and powerful military. We must be cautious about running into war head-first.
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The way to topple a tyrant

Postby The Christendom of NOD » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:09 pm

A headlong military invasion of milograd will cause another world war. Therefore black ops operations will be necessary to topple milograd also mobilizing its many oppressed unorganized freedom fighters, infiltration by spies, sleeper cells and sending in freedom packets by air which contain Manuel's for making weapons ingredient for the creation of explosives/ weapons and how to utilize military tactics. This many strategies when used all at once by multiple Nations will cripple milograd.

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Postby Cylarn » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:16 pm

The Christendom of NOD wrote:A headlong military invasion of milograd will cause another world war. Therefore black ops operations will be necessary to topple milograd also mobilizing its many oppressed unorganized freedom fighters, infiltration by spies, sleeper cells and sending in freedom packets by air which contain Manuel's for making weapons ingredient for the creation of explosives/ weapons and how to utilize military tactics. This many strategies when used all at once by multiple Nations will cripple milograd.


Black ops will still start a war between not just us and Milograd, but possibly with the region of Gholgoth. We should discuss this further, as this isn't the correct thread.
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Postby Extopiopolis » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:31 pm

The only reason why I'm not approving this bill is because Milograd already has a condemnation, and I don't think that a country needs to be condemned twice. It would be like killing someone twice: If you killed them the first time (first off, how would you be able to) why would you need to kill that person again. Condemnation should only be put on a country once. If they don't learn, than their just being little immature children. I will be highly disappointed if this bill passes.

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Postby Bergnovinaia » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:04 pm

Kudos on this passing! I am actually quite entertained that the coding allows for two condemn badges. :p
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