[Defeated] Condemn New Scorpio

by **The Treorai** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:54 pm

Completly FOR.

by **Samozaryadnyastan** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:34 am

This is more a technicality in your events, but the Fat Man was a very low yield device of about 15-18 kilotons. 'High yield' would be 20+ Megatons. It's also worth noting how Fat Man only killed about 400,000 from blast and about that number again from radiation exposure (in a time when radiation poisoning was unheard of/officially denied for existing) in a densely populated city. 30 million would only have been killed by a modern 'city killer' nuke of 20Mt+ yield, and it would have to have been an airburst detonation in order to do so much damage.

However, the use of nuclear devices against citizens is deplorable, so I approve the condemnation.

by **Paper Flowers** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:47 am

Xanixi wrote:Well, considering he killed 30 million of his own citizens...
I consider that some major genocide. Which is against one of the GARs (38, I think). He is a WA Member-Nation, yet did not abide by said rules. When it's something of this magnitude, I consider even one "incident" to be enough to condemn the nation globally.

Personally I would mention this in the text, while it's not a major point in the grand scheme to me at least the potential violation of the GAR is something worth considering when deciding to vote for/against this proposal.

by **Xanixi** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:43 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:This is more a technicality in your events, but the Fat Man was a very low yield device of about 15-18 kilotons. 'High yield' would be 20+ Megatons. It's also worth noting how Fat Man only killed about 400,000 from blast and about that number again from radiation exposure (in a time when radiation poisoning was unheard of/officially denied for existing) in a densely populated city. 30 million would only have been killed by a modern 'city killer' nuke of 20Mt+ yield, and it would have to have been an airburst detonation in order to do so much damage.

However, the use of nuclear devices against citizens is deplorable, so I approve the condemnation.

I know. I'm a military geek. I just figured that, since Fat Man was enough to destroy a city, so would this one. Never the less, the city was massively populated. Fat Man would do crazy damage in Beijing, just because of how densely populated the city is.

In any case, ask him. We have enough trouble believing he got a nuke card as a bunch of rebels with ragged clothes and torn boots, but giving him a 20 MT bomb? That's crossing it a bit.

by **New Emperica** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:40 am

I called godmod, then he said we had 5 RL minutes to find the bomb and disarm it, and he never even gave us a single hint. With 40 seconds left he said 'it's on a hill'....and I had 35 seconds to write up a reasonable IC for the event. What we are dealing with is not only a cruel, sadistic psychopath, but also a poor RPer and major jerk.

by **Altaiire** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:17 pm

The Altarian Empire fully supports this resolution. While we did not lose any men fighting in the city that fateful day, many of our allies' soldiers died by the nefarious schemes of Seer and his Scorpion terrorist organization. Bringing the Scorpion terrorists to justice would be a wonderful thing, put simply.

by **The Republic of Lanos** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:41 pm

Further Horrified that said explosion was of massive yield, similar or greater to Fat-Man, completely obliterated the city, engulfed it in radiation, and managed to kill over 30,000,000 Scorpion Citizens, as well as several hundred thousand Coalition personnel,

Illegal, Rule 4, RL mention.

by **Xanixi** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:42 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Further Horrified that said explosion was of massive yield, similar or greater to Fat-Man, completely obliterated the city, engulfed it in radiation, and managed to kill over 30,000,000 Scorpion Citizens, as well as several hundred thousand Coalition personnel,

Illegal, Rule 4, RL mention.

Duly noted.

by **Soviet Canuckistan** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:52 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Further Horrified that said explosion was of massive yield, similar or greater to Fat-Man, completely obliterated the city, engulfed it in radiation, and managed to kill over 30,000,000 Scorpion Citizens, as well as several hundred thousand Coalition personnel,

Illegal, Rule 4, RL mention.

My point too.

by **New Emperica** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:14 pm

Darn it! Quick, contact the mods and request a removal so you can edit it and resubmit it. Otherwise, they will **** you up for the littlest breach!

by **SunRawr** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:16 pm

New Emperica wrote:Darn it! Quick, contact the mods and request a removal so you can edit it and resubmit it. Otherwise, they will **** you up for the littlest breach!

It has already been brought up for removal
viewtopic.php?p=8244620#p8244620

by **New Emperica** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:31 pm

Wait! The nation of Xanixi is in essence an America that had a major tech jump after WWII. So, Fat Man could possibly be NS as well.

by **Soviet Canuckistan** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:33 pm

New Emperica wrote:Wait! The nation of Xanixi is in essence an America that had a major tech jump after WWII. So, Fat Man could possibly be NS as well.

still, it is thought by most of us to be a RL reference.

by **New Emperica** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:34 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:still, it is thought by most of us to be a RL reference.

But not if we bring that fact to light. Loophole!

by **Sedgistan** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:46 pm

It's been removed, because of the real-world reference pointed out above.

The approvals it had were:

Approvals: 17 (Xanixi, The Peoples Red Air Force, Viola, Hileville, Todd McCloud, Yurtasia, Aaraya, The Imperial Byzantine Republic, RUDRABHA REPUBLIC, Cristina, Danatha, Harley Wood, Brutii, Gatchina, Anvilonia, Osberg-Thitania, The Heartland Confederation)

by **Xanixi** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:47 pm

Sedgistan wrote:It's been removed, because of the real-world reference pointed out above.

The approvals it had were:
Approvals: 17 (Xanixi, The Peoples Red Air Force, Viola, Hileville, Todd McCloud, Yurtasia, Aaraya, The Imperial Byzantine Republic, RUDRABHA REPUBLIC, Cristina, Danatha, Harley Wood, Brutii, Gatchina, Anvilonia, Osberg-Thitania, The Heartland Confederation)

If I resubmit it, do I get those back, or do I need to tell them again?

by **Sedgistan** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:54 pm

It'll start again with 0 approvals.

by **Xanixi** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:55 pm

Sedgistan wrote:It'll start again with 0 approvals.

Mkay. Sorry for the mistake.

by **New Scorpio** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:55 pm

And they're at it again.

by **Xanixi** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:56 pm

New Scorpio wrote:And they're at it again.

Only for the global society

by **New Emperica** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:57 pm

I knew it.
*brandishes lead pipe, ready to defend the Grand Imperial ambassador from a Scorpion suicide bomber*

by **New Scorpio** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:59 pm

New Emperica wrote:I knew it.
*brandishes lead pipe, ready to defend the Grand Imperial ambassador from a Scorpion suicide bomber*

Funny.

by **Xanixi** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:00 pm

New Scorpio wrote:
New Emperica wrote:I knew it.
*brandishes lead pipe, ready to defend the Grand Imperial ambassador from a Scorpion suicide bomber*

Funny.

Indeed

by **New Scorpio** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:01 pm

Now how many votes are needed?

by **Xanixi** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:02 pm

New Scorpio wrote:Now how many votes are needed?

I'd appreciate it if you utilized NS, rather than us, to get your answer. Thanks.

[Defeated] Condemn New Scorpio

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