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Skyrim Diplomacy
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:59 pm

Banning, suppressing, and communist flags ≠ reasons for condemnation. That would condemn more than half the current nations, I'd wager.

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Postby Fischistan » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:19 pm

Banning unfairly, Suppressing in a way that abuses power, and communist flags against the founder's wishes = reasons for a condemnation, as lopng as there are other reasons.
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Postby Cromarty » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:40 pm

Fischistan wrote:I began to question myself how much I really like the proposal, due to the fact that it was all RP, so I added in some non-RP clauses. Check them out.

The problem isn't that it's rp, it's that it's terrible RP and thus isn't /worthy/ of condemnation.
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:50 pm

Fischistan wrote:Banning unfairly, Suppressing in a way that abuses power, and communist flags [b]against the founder's wishes[/b[] = reasons for a condemnation, as lopng as there are other reasons.

Same argument applies. That's called gameplay, even if you don't like the style.

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Postby Fischistan » Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:29 pm

I'm fine with gameplay OOC. Without corrupt and iron-fist delegates, NS would be incredibly boring. IC however, all those are very bad, and should be condemned.
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Postby Soviet Klaec » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:31 am

Fischistan wrote:I'm fine with gameplay OOC. Without corrupt and iron-fist delegates, NS would be incredibly boring. IC however, all those are very bad, and should be condemned.


Wooow wooow wooow, what's wrong with us iron-fist delegates? Tyrannical iron fist delegates are the problem. There's nothing wrong with standard iron-fist rulers such as myself. I allow almost no political freedom in my nation, however, in return, citizens are free to live their lives better than they could in most capitalist nations, and enjoy a powerful economy.
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Postby Fischistan » Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:43 pm

Soviet Klaec wrote:
Fischistan wrote:I'm fine with gameplay OOC. Without corrupt and iron-fist delegates, NS would be incredibly boring. IC however, all those are very bad, and should be condemned.


Wooow wooow wooow, what's wrong with us iron-fist delegates? Tyrannical iron fist delegates are the problem. There's nothing wrong with standard iron-fist rulers such as myself. I allow almost no political freedom in my nation, however, in return, citizens are free to live their lives better than they could in most capitalist nations, and enjoy a powerful economy.

I'm talking about iron fist rulers of regions. There's nothing wrong with them, but we condemn them because they are bad IC.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:28 pm

Fischistan wrote:
Soviet Klaec wrote:
Wooow wooow wooow, what's wrong with us iron-fist delegates? Tyrannical iron fist delegates are the problem. There's nothing wrong with standard iron-fist rulers such as myself. I allow almost no political freedom in my nation, however, in return, citizens are free to live their lives better than they could in most capitalist nations, and enjoy a powerful economy.

I'm talking about iron fist rulers of regions. There's nothing wrong with them, but we condemn them because they are bad IC.


In that case. Can you write my condemnation next?
Honestly. I could do what this guy did in about an hour and I wouldn't get a shiny badge. Why should he?
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:59 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Fischistan wrote:I'm talking about iron fist rulers of regions. There's nothing wrong with them, but we condemn them because they are bad IC.


In that case. Can you write my condemnation next?
Honestly. I could do what this guy did in about an hour and I wouldn't get a shiny badge. Why should he?

I'll write it up for you Tim! :lol:

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:00 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:
In that case. Can you write my condemnation next?
Honestly. I could do what this guy did in about an hour and I wouldn't get a shiny badge. Why should he?

I'll write it up for you Tim! :lol:

Sold!
*goes to commit a couple genocides, carpet bombings, and destructions of other nashnz*
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Postby Cromarty » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:52 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:I'll write it up for you Tim! :lol:

Sold!
*goes to commit a couple genocides, carpet bombings, and destructions of other nashnz*

Just make sure your RP isn't shit, I'd hate to have to terminate you when the revolution comes :/
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:31 pm

Cromarty wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:Sold!
*goes to commit a couple genocides, carpet bombings, and destructions of other nashnz*

Just make sure your RP isn't shit, I'd hate to have to terminate you when the revolution comes :/


Mkay :p
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Postby Cs188 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:54 pm

if you take out the part about islam, i think its good. i not islamic, but seeing how that there the 2nd largest religon well....

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Postby Fischistan » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:55 pm

Well what? I'm not sure what you're getting at there.
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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:03 pm

Like many have stated for themselves before, I too am against most RP condemnations. However, I make an exception for genocidal actions. This, therefore, gets my support.
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Postby Cromarty » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:22 am

Communal Ecotopia wrote:Like many have stated for themselves before, I too am against most RP condemnations. However, I make an exception for genocidal actions. This, therefore, gets my support.

this is quite possibly the worst attitude to have re:rp condemnations :/
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Postby Fischistan » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:43 pm

Anyone have anything else to say besides "RP proposal against!", or "holy shit that's a lot of genocides for!"
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Postby Holy Empire of Christendom » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:43 am

Although we are a group for Unity under the name of Religion, I do agree with him on SOME points. Islam is a religion of tyrrany, and it should NOT be catered to, by the moderates, and the weak. I'm sorry, but I do not support your proposal.

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Postby The Aryan Nations » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:53 am

this guy sounds like a total badass. i think he deserves to be king for life :geek:
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Postby Fischistan » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:19 pm

Holy Empire of Christendom wrote:Although we are a group for Unity under the name of Religion, I do agree with him on SOME points. Islam is a religion of tyrrany, and it should NOT be catered to, by the moderates, and the weak. I'm sorry, but I do not support your proposal.

But what if it was YOUR religion? We have to think of the whole principal of these acts, not just the specifics. Even if Islam is a religion of tyranny, the genocides and death camps are still very wrong.
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Postby Anthony Delasanta » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:30 pm

Keep and mind the genocide was in response to a genocide by the islamist

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Postby Fischistan » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:35 pm

You did a genocide because the other nation was doing a genocide? Two wrongs don't make a right, especially when the wrong is genocide. Genocide is banned by the WA right? I think I have another clause to add...
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Unibot II wrote:It's Carta. He CANNOT Fail. Only successes in reverse.
The Matthew Islands wrote:Knowledge is knowing the Tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.
Anthony Delasanta wrote:its was not genocide it was ethnic cleansing...
Socorra wrote:A religion-free abortion thread is like a meat-free hamburger.
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Never look off the edge of cliff on a segway.

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Postby Anthony Delasanta » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:52 pm

Fischistan wrote:You did a genocide because the other nation was doing a genocide? Two wrongs don't make a right, especially when the wrong is genocide. Genocide is banned by the WA right? I think I have another clause to add...

its was not genocide it was ethnic cleansing...

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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:07 pm

Anthony Delasanta wrote:
Fischistan wrote:You did a genocide because the other nation was doing a genocide? Two wrongs don't make a right, especially when the wrong is genocide. Genocide is banned by the WA right? I think I have another clause to add...

its was not genocide it was ethnic cleansing...

I don't even support this proposal, but now your getting into semantics.

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Postby Fischistan » Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:53 pm

Anthony Delasanta wrote:
Fischistan wrote:You did a genocide because the other nation was doing a genocide? Two wrongs don't make a right, especially when the wrong is genocide. Genocide is banned by the WA right? I think I have another clause to add...

its was not genocide it was ethnic cleansing...

Really, because I'm pretty sure the title of one of your threads was "muslim genocide(closed to Vaalbara)"
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