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Postby Damanucus » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:10 am

Maklohi Vai wrote:Although the necessity of this act may not appear to some, it is clear that measures regarding nuclear weapons are quite serious and that this measure is clearly in favor of protecting the members of the WA. Approved, and strongly recommended that you do the same.


This is about nuclear power, not nuclear weapons.

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Postby United Dependencies » Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:17 am

It seems to be a little too vague as far as actual standards go. I'm not sure if I want just a committee being in charge of standards and regulation. Opposed (for now)
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Postby Silvadus » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:42 pm

Glenn wrote:I just don't see why this is necessary. This act makes it sound like countries tend to be reckless and just sit around in their own radioactive filth. Unless I am convinced that this act could prevent something that could be of international consequences, I will remain opposed. Otherwise it should be up to states to decide how to regulate this.

There have been instances of nuclear power plants that have not followed proper regulations and as such there have been consequence; this if often due to the underestimation of the potential hazards of nuclear power. Nuclear disasters and waste can have effects internationally, such has radiation crossing the border which could harm people and the environment. Along with that there are both international economic and political consequences for nuclear power plants that are not properly maintained. Nuclear meltdowns can cause major economic downfall, especially if a state is dependent on it.

United Dependencies wrote:It seems to be a little too vague as far as actual standards go. I'm not sure if I want just a committee being in charge of standards and regulation. Opposed (for now)

It's vague so as to allow the committee to make standards based off their own experience and what is known at present among the internal community of nuclear power safety. What would you suggest other than a committee?
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Postby Glenn » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:03 pm

Silvadus wrote:There have been instances of nuclear power plants that have not followed proper regulations and as such there have been consequence; this if often due to the underestimation of the potential hazards of nuclear power. Nuclear disasters and waste can have effects internationally, such has radiation crossing the border which could harm people and the environment. Along with that there are both international economic and political consequences for nuclear power plants that are not properly maintained. Nuclear meltdowns can cause major economic downfall, especially if a state is dependent on it.



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Postby Silvadus » Sun May 06, 2012 10:13 pm

I have resubmitted this proposal. If there are any suggestions for improving the proposal please do post them.
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Sun May 06, 2012 10:37 pm

I am against Nuclear power.
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Postby South Titania » Mon May 07, 2012 12:10 am

Has my approval. No harm in letting a few wise old men control man's penchant for messing with the limits of Nuclear power.

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Postby Silvadus » Mon May 14, 2012 6:57 pm

The following changes have been made to the draft:
MANDATES the following for nations:
I. Take prime responsibility for risks caused by exposure to radiation while handling radioactive material for the purpose of nuclear power,
II. Establish procedures and arrangements to maintain safety and stability while operating nuclear power plants,
III. Have safety measures in place to prevent or have arrangements to deal with exposure to radiation while handling radioactive material,
IV. Follow adequate building designs for the construction of nuclear power plant facilities,
V. Establish proper regulations for facilities and activities dealing with the handling of radioactive materials for the purpose of generating power,
VI. Enforce regulations placed upon nuclear facilities and attempt to pass legislation to better the safety of said nuclear facilities,
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Tue May 15, 2012 3:55 am

Silvadus wrote:MANDATES the following for nations:

What about if the precise details have been devolved to other parties, for instance local governments, companies, foreign powers, or supranational organizations?
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Postby Silvadus » Tue May 15, 2012 7:44 am

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:
Silvadus wrote:MANDATES the following for nations:

What about if the precise details have been devolved to other parties, for instance local governments, companies, foreign powers, or supranational organizations?

The WA has no authority over such entities.
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Tue May 15, 2012 8:16 pm

Silvadus wrote:
Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:What about if the precise details have been devolved to other parties, for instance local governments, companies, foreign powers, or supranational organizations?

The WA has no authority over such entities.


Then why are you mandating that member nations exercise powers and responsibilities they may not have?
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Postby Silvadus » Wed May 16, 2012 8:56 pm

Those mandates are simply a goal for nations to attempt to reach and for the NESC when evaluating nuclear power plants and facilities.
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Postby Flibbleites » Thu May 17, 2012 8:27 am

Silvadus wrote:Those mandates are simply a goal for nations to attempt to reach and for the NESC when evaluating nuclear power plants and facilities.

If you only have to attempt to fulfill the mandate, it's not really much of a mandate now is it?

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Postby Puan Puri Naduk » Sat May 19, 2012 3:15 am

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:
Silvadus wrote:The WA has no authority over such entities.


Then why are you mandating that member nations exercise powers and responsibilities they may not have?


Not sure what you are talking about. The Author is correct in that the WA only has power over member nations and nothing else. Resolution text can only hold member nations responsible. From there on, it is up to the member nations to enforce the rules on "local governments, companies, foreign powers, or supranational organizations" that operate within member nations. I see nothing wrong with the resolution.
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Postby Moronist Decisions » Sat May 19, 2012 7:25 am

Since member nations are responsible for their power stations, what is the purpose of the committee precisely? I'd be uncomfortable with gnomes being responsible for all safety inspections and pawing over all our power stations.
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Postby Lord Absinthe » Sat May 19, 2012 4:18 pm

We feel that with a little refinement we could support this proposal.
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Postby Silvadus » Sat May 19, 2012 6:42 pm

Flibbleites wrote:
Silvadus wrote:Those mandates are simply a goal for nations to attempt to reach and for the NESC when evaluating nuclear power plants and facilities.

If you only have to attempt to fulfill the mandate, it's not really much of a mandate now is it?

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Very true, I worded that poorly. The NESC will attempt to work with nations in order to better their conditions to meet the mandates.
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Postby Jefferson and Paul » Tue May 22, 2012 2:00 pm

Do you know how many inspectors, employees and the amount GA Funds it would take to inspect even a small fraction of the Member Nations' nuclear plants?
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sat May 26, 2012 2:05 am

Puan Puri Naduk wrote:
Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:
Then why are you mandating that member nations exercise powers and responsibilities they may not have?


Not sure what you are talking about. The Author is correct in that the WA only has power over member nations and nothing else. Resolution text can only hold member nations responsible. From there on, it is up to the member nations to enforce the rules on "local governments, companies, foreign powers, or supranational organizations" that operate within member nations. I see nothing wrong with the resolution.


We have no wish to take prime responsibility for the acts of individuals, local governments, companies, foreign powers, or supranational organizations operating within our nation.
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Postby Dwarfington » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:53 am

I oppose, my nation uses nuclear power as its primary source of energy, and industry is the number 1 priority to the nations economy and society, the environment is something that dwarfington is always willing to sacrifice if there is money to be made from natural resources.

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Postby Stalltopia » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:00 am

Dwarfington wrote:I oppose, my nation uses nuclear power as its primary source of energy, and industry is the number 1 priority to the nations economy and society, the environment is something that dwarfington is always willing to sacrifice if there is money to be made from natural resources.


This resolution is not talking about putting limits on mining. It is addressing the safety of the facilities themselves. And as far as we can see inspectors will only be offering suggestions for improvement to safety based on their findings in the best interest of helping a nation without controlling it.

The nation of Stalltopia is currently for this bill, but before we approve it we feel we must bring the issue up with the other nations of the Newera Empire whom we represent.

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Postby The Grand Duchy of Muscovy » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:49 am

The Grand Duchy of Muscovy is for this proposal as we feel that nuclear power plants are a danger everyone in the area, but are simple too important to some nations power situation to not be used and so need firm regulations and people to inforce them.

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Postby BORDURIAA WA NATION » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:37 pm

Stringent Safety standards for Nucleur power is a must. The Agency has been formed to set safety standards, not ban nucleur energy. Nucleur accidents can be devastating and hence this bill is required.
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Postby Sanctaria » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:07 am

Well this snuck up on me ... how in God's name did it reach quorum?!

Regardless, I don't see anything immediately questionable so ... tentatively in support.
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Postby JonathanAtopia » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:26 am

I think it is a good resulation to protect our people I approve

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