[PASSED] Commend Unibot II

[Mahaj]

Like... what?

"Observing the fact..."

"Congratulating Unibot for..."

i'm sure there's other, better alternatives.

I couldn't think of a better one! But I can use those!

[Warzone Codger]

and a list of common prayers to the almighty god of our humble multiverse, violet,

Approved but vary of this clause. You are assuming all our nations to acknowledge violet as our god? That all our nation's religions must defer to Violet and the bloodthirsty sacrificing demanding violetists? The nation of Mahaj might subscribe to that backwards cult, but not the Codgereans!

(If it was a GA proposal would it of been struck for metagaming...? Damn SC!)

[Tulija]

Approved and wholeheartedly supported.

(the above post regarding violet is true - although I don't like it at all, I understand it's all in jest and so dismiss it lightly)

[Oliver the Mediocre]

The resolution is mildly overblown, and in some cases makes up words that don't actually exist:

COGNIZANT that Unibot played a role in the furtherment of the idea

and at times is somewhat tortuous in its use of language...

...but it's a damn sight better than the last commendation about Unibot I commented on as a delegate. I think I can still support this.

[Cromarty]

Considering that the WAGA has a category named Furtherment of Democracy, I think we can safely assume that, in the eyes of the WA, the word furtherment does exist.

[Oliver the Mediocre]

Considering that the WAGA has a category named Furtherment of Democracy, I think we can safely assume that, in the eyes of the WA, the word furtherment does exist.

Shh. A cursory search on google suggests that it is indeed a word, but so out of use these days as to prompt questions about whether or not it is a word. So I don't feel so bad.

[Starlightia]

*the New Lunar Republican member looked it over* I think he deserves this comendation. Rising from ashes to help the world is good in my book. You have our support.

[Elcric Kcalb]

The ISEK supports this Commendation with great enthusiasm! Let there be cake!

[Nazis in Space]

Moar circlejerking. Moar!

~ Mecha-Hitler, Führer of the Nazi Moon Base, Protector of the Space Aryans & Honourary Member of the Nazi Robot Symposium

[Mahaj]

I thank those supporting this. Obviously, this is at vote, and I must give my thanks to Eluvatar, who assisted tremendously in the campaigning for this.

[Oliver the Mediocre]

Honored Ambassador,

I am writing this to urge you to please vote AGAINST the Security Council resolution currently at vote, Commend Unibot II.
Unibot is not a person that is worthy of commendation by The Security Council.

He portrays himself as a noble gentleman, but his demeanor and short temper betray his true personality. He is rude to those who do not share his opinions and will insult them at every opportunity. Here he can be seen referring to "Invaders" as parasites: viewtopic.php?p=8295900#p8295900
Whether or not you share his views on the R/D game, it should be clear that referring to other players as "parasites" is not something done by someone worthy of commendation. This particular incident is tame compared to many of the other incidents that have taken place in private.

Now I will address a couple of the points brought up in the proposal itself.

ACKNOWLEDGING Unibot as one of the premier defenders of this modern era in NationStates, in terms of skill, leadership, and strategy,
and
RECOGNIZING Unibot as the creator of the United Defenders League, a defense organization based on a concept of individual nations as opposed to regions comprising the organization, and an organization which has quickly became one of the premier defending organizations in NationStates,

As Unibot would likely inform you, he is not exactly the most skilled defender out there. He relies heavily on other people to do the hard parts of the job such as planting triggers and finding update times. He also depends on his friends to create tools to make his job easier.

His leadership abilities should also be questioned. His term as Arch Chancellor of the Founderless Regions Alliance ended with a narrowly defeated impeachment attempt (50% voted for, they needed 60%) that lead to Unibot resigning immediately after.

His leadership abilities in the United Defenders League are just as sketchy. He has the final say over every detail over how the organization is run, but does not take responsibility for mistakes made by his officers. His words and actions were even the focus of ridicule by a then-high-ranking member of the UDL, Harmoneia. A fine example would be The Free Range Organization. This was a region with no natives whatsoever. The only nation in the region had been there for less than 5 days. When two nations decided to move in so one of them could be a delegate. They did not move in anywhere near update and they were not showing any sort of aggression towards the region. UDL troops moved in without investigating, took the delegacy, and banned the innocent nations.

Another example is The Grand Regiment. They attempted to refound this region due to its convenient update time. The founder was set to CTE, so some nations moved in to prevent the UDL refound until the founder could be contacted. The founder was commonly known to be Tim-Opolis, a fact acknowledged by UDL Lieutenant Mahaj. The UDL moved in World Assembly nations in an attempt to kick the nations that were preventing refound. This is another fact that has been acknowledged in private by multiple UDL officials, but vehemently denied in public.

The UDL has also misrepresented itself in order to get treaties with regions. These treaties do nothing for the regions involved. They are solely for the benefit of the UDL, which gains more fame from these pacts. One such failed treaty was with Stargate. Natives of Stargate were assured that their region would be safer with a UDL treaty. However, that didn't prevent The Black Riders from launching a massive multi-organizational attack that toppled the native delegate from power. Following this attack, the UDL didn't even put their greatest effort into liberating the region. The attempt was nothing compared to that of other liberation attempts, like the one being gathered for Belgium right now. There is no known UDL/Belgium treaty, showing that "treaties" are just a way for the UDL to garner attention.

These inaccuracies within the proposal make it an unacceptable piece of legislation that must not be allowed to pass. I strongly urge you to vote against this resolution.

Thank you for your time,
The Censored by SOPA of Rawrgirnia

Just thought I'd give Mahaj the opportunity to reply to this directly, and perhaps offer some sort of counter telegram to the delegates being courted. I'd say that Rawr pegged me wrong, but he probably wasn't even looking at who he sent this to.

[Mahaj]

Huzzah i've seen this actually, I'll reply here.

Honored Ambassador,
He portrays himself as a noble gentleman, but his demeanor and short temper betray his true personality. He is rude to those who do not share his opinions and will insult them at every opportunity. Here he can be seen referring to "Invaders" as parasites: viewtopic.php?p=8295900#p8295900
Whether or not you share his views on the R/D game, it should be clear that referring to other players as "parasites" is not something done by someone worthy of commendation. This particular incident is tame compared to many of the other incidents that have taken place in private.

I get negative comments about him in private of a considerable nature, I don't agree that the wording is great but I don't think it should exclude him from a commendation based on it alone.

As Unibot would likely inform you, he is not exactly the most skilled defender out there. He relies heavily on other people to do the hard parts of the job such as planting triggers and finding update times. He also depends on his friends to create tools to make his job easier.

He's created a bot that can do approximations for update times, and he can generally move and endorse pretty quickly, and his strategy is good as well (which, conveniently, you never mentioned).

His leadership abilities should also be questioned. His term as Arch Chancellor of the Founderless Regions Alliance ended with a narrowly defeated impeachment attempt (50% voted for, they needed 60%) that lead to Unibot resigning immediately after.

I believe the FRA impeachment was led by Sedge, in no small part because Unibot had just tried to stop Sedge's coup.

His leadership abilities in the United Defenders League are just as sketchy. He has the final say over every detail over how the organization is run, but does not take responsibility for mistakes made by his officers. His words and actions were even the focus of ridicule by a then-high-ranking member of the UDL, Harmoneia.

He has the final say... when he's online. He's not online for everything.

A fine example would be The Free Range Organization. This was a region with no natives whatsoever. The only nation in the region had been there for less than 5 days. When two nations decided to move in so one of them could be a delegate. They did not move in anywhere near update and they were not showing any sort of aggression towards the region. UDL troops moved in without investigating, took the delegacy, and banned the innocent nations.

I wasn't there for that, but if two nations are moving in so one can be delegate, thats a raid. FYI.

Another example is The Grand Regiment. They attempted to refound this region due to its convenient update time. The founder was set to CTE, so some nations moved in to prevent the UDL refound until the founder could be contacted. The founder was commonly known to be Tim-Opolis, a fact acknowledged by UDL Lieutenant Mahaj. The UDL moved in World Assembly nations in an attempt to kick the nations that were preventing refound. This is another fact that has been acknowledged in private by multiple UDL officials, but vehemently denied in public.

Unibot wasn't online for part of this I know, and I fail to see its importance here.

The UDL has also misrepresented itself in order to get treaties with regions. These treaties do nothing for the regions involved. They are solely for the benefit of the UDL, which gains more fame from these pacts. One such failed treaty was with Stargate. Natives of Stargate were assured that their region would be safer with a UDL treaty. However, that didn't prevent The Black Riders from launching a massive multi-organizational attack that toppled the native delegate from power.

No way, sherlock.

Following this attack, the UDL didn't even put their greatest effort into liberating the region.

Nice lie. Of course we put effort into it, but you wouldn't know since you weren't there. We couldn't get enough people, that doesn't mean the effort wasn't there. Heck, look at the Rmb, it simply escalated to a point where the UDL numbers were not enough. Keep in mind this also happened as it was winter break, so people were off on vacation and such.

The attempt was nothing compared to that of other liberation attempts, like the one being gathered for Belgium right now. There is no known UDL/Belgium treaty, showing that "treaties" are just a way for the UDL to garner attention.

This has really gotten sillier and siller, none of this is true at all.

Just thought I'd give Mahaj the opportunity to reply to this directly, and perhaps offer some sort of counter telegram to the delegates being courted. I'd say that Rawr pegged me wrong, but he probably wasn't even looking at who he sent this to.

Thanks.

[Delegate Vinage]

I, Lothar Prolark, Senator and World Assembly Delegate of Europeia will be voting NAY on this Commendation after a 3/17 internal vote.

While Europeia does applaud the hard work that Unibot has done for NationStates, especially through the General Assembly, it is the opinion of Europeia that the Commendation does not recognise the disputed history of Unibot. Specifically the charges faced by the nominee for harassment in The Rejected Realms and their comments towards females which, according to some members of Europeia, borderline on misogynist. Secondly a Mod-deleted nation for breaking the game’s rules. Furthermore comments made by the nominee in regards to Raiders are not addressed in this commendation which further leads us to reject this commendation.

We are NationStates too whether you like it or not.

Only in the sense that a parasite is apart of its owner.

With this information, we hereby cast our vote against this Act and hope that others will at least ask themselves if someone with a mod-deleted nation, a harassment charge made against them and makes comments such as the one above is worthy of international recognition?

We would, however, look to support a re-drafted version of this where the appropriate adjustments are made which elevate the above concerns of ours.

[Paper Flowers]

With this information, we hereby cast our vote against this Act and hope that others will at least ask themselves if someone with a mod-deleted nation

Not knowing the exact history of Unibot and the specific circumstances around the deletion, we choose to give him the benefit of the doubt.

a harassment charge made against them

A charge made here with no evidence offered in support of it, thus discarded.

and makes comments such as the one above is worthy of international recognition?

Having reviewed the comment above we do not see it as being sufficient to counter the points made by Mahaj in the authoring of this proposal.

[Elcric Kcalb]

Unibot II's statement in regards to Invaders as parasites has only strengthened the ISEK in supporting this Commendation. Not because we share similar views towards invaders, but because we thought it was a very snappy rebuttal and appreciate that sort of thing. Keep on trucking, Unibot II. Keep on trucking.

[SunRawr]

Just thought I'd give Mahaj the opportunity to reply to this directly, and perhaps offer some sort of counter telegram to the delegates being courted. I'd say that Rawr pegged me wrong, but he probably wasn't even looking at who he sent this to.

Actually, it was an "Oh shiz..." moment as soon as I hit send.

[Industrial Septagon]

The nation of Industrial Septagon votes NAY. One should not author their own commendations.

[Goobergunchia]

The nation of Industrial Septagon votes NAY. One should not author their own commendations.

Hmm? Mahaj and Unibot are definitely different people.

[Industrial Septagon]

The nation of Industrial Septagon votes NAY. One should not author their own commendations.

Hmm? Mahaj and Unibot are definitely different people.

Alas, I seem to have misread.

My vote remains unchanged however, although more for the reason that I am against commendations and condemnations in general.

[Campinia]

Hmm? Mahaj and Unibot are definitely different people.

Alas, I seem to have misread.

My vote remains unchanged however, although more for the reason that I am against commendations and condemnations in general.

So do you vote against every condemnation/commendation? Or just this one?

[Opaloka]

Oh look all the members of the united defenders league have got together for a mutual back patting session.

Unibot2 & the rest of UDL defend fascist regions from legitamate anti fascist action by the 'red fleet' & other antifa comrades including international socialists

So vote 'NO!' & join the fleet.

[Mahaj]

Oh look all the members of the united defenders league have got together for a mutual back patting session.

Unibot2 & the rest of UDL defend fascist regions from legitamate anti fascist action by the 'red fleet' & other antifa comrades including international socialists

So vote 'NO!' & join the fleet.

So you try and do a recruitment pitch? Knothnx

[Zemnaya Svoboda]

Oh look all the members of the united defenders league have got together for a mutual back patting session.

Unibot2 & the rest of UDL defend fascist regions from legitamate anti fascist action by the 'red fleet' & other antifa comrades including international socialists

So vote 'NO!' & join the fleet.

What fascist region did the League defend from your fleet?

[Topid]

Oh look all the members of the united defenders league have got together for a mutual back patting session.

Unibot2 & the rest of UDL defend fascist regions from legitamate anti fascist action by the 'red fleet' & other antifa comrades including international socialists

So vote 'NO!' & join the fleet.

That's what's great about Uni and defenders like him. To say that the only communities that are legitimate or deserve to survive are the communities that we agree with (in this case non-fascist regions) is slightly overbearing and ... well ... fascist in nature.

Unibot, virtually by himself to my knowledge, thought up the United Defenders League. This may seem rather insignificant when viewed as a gameplay organization, because a new army pops up and is successful in gameplay every month at least. But as a defender organization, it is really rare. Since I joined NS, it has ALWAYS been FRA and TITO were the defenders. E-Army was around a little bit and a couple other individual regions too in special occasions, but as far as day to day updaters, FRA and TITO had a monopoly since 2009 until Uni changed that. The fact that the UDL was successful just by itself is commendable, because Uni achieved something that I must say even I chuckled as being a crazy and impossible idea when he proposed an alternative to the FRA to me. Combined with the major part he played in building the SC in it's high-day, pre-RuleIV inactivity and death and this is a pretty clear yes vote for anyone who isn't either too biased to sit back and think about how much Uni has done in this game or two is too uninformed to know how much Uni has done in this game.

Seriously, think about how long WA campaigns take, then realize how many he's done. The guy has spent literally hours upon hours upon hours upon hours devoted to this game. Far far more than me and many people who have been playing this game far far longer.

[Tim-Opolis]

The Grand Regiment.... nuff said

Grand Central is collectively voting Against