[PASSED] Disability Welfare Act

by **Vagabundas** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:31 pm

Sanctaria wrote:Are there any more suggestions/comments to be made? If not I'll probably submit this soon as it seems to be relatively non-contentious.

I would do that as soon as possible. Mr. Ambassador I'd like to congratulate you because your resolution is very comprehensive indeed. Even using a "one-fits-for-all" approach, your proposal achieved to include every specific case in order to give a better life for the disabled.

Yours,

by **Libraria and Ausitoria** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:25 am

We're surprised that this hasn't been legislated on already. We fully support this proposal and look forward to its passage.

by **Sanctaria** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:33 pm

Thanks for your support, Ambassador.

Now, are there any final comments/suggestions? Do any Ambassadors recommend the addition/removal of further clauses? Have I missed something?

I'll be submitting this by Tuesday otherwise.

by **Superbia** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:25 am

The parliament of the Democratic Republic of Superbia would like to congratulate and commend the authoring nation(s), namely Sanctaria, for their work in constructing this resolution which will further the living conditions for the disabled sapients of nations the multiverse over. Regardless of the proposal's fate in the General Assembly, in which we hope it passes, Superbia will be adding elements of this resolution into our already extensive welfare system for disabled sapients.

Right Honourable Prime Minister of the Democratic Republic of Superbia

by **Sanctaria** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:13 am

This has been submitted. Approvals welcomed, so if you're a Delegate please do so. If you're not a delegate, please ask your delegate to do so!

by **Krioval** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:54 am

The Imperial Chiefdom has approved this proposal for debate. While we will consult with our regional allies prior to casting a floor vote, should this reach quorum, we do feel that it deserves to be brought to the voters of the Assembly.

Henrik Søgård
Imperial Chiefdom of Krioval

by **Sanctaria** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:55 am

We thank the Ambassador for his approval.

by **Knootoss** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:38 am

Knootoss has also endorsed this proposal and hopes that it comes to a vote.

Ambassador Aram Koopman
World Assembly representative for the Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss

by **Anvilonia** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:35 am

We hereby support this proposal.

by **Parti Ouvrier** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:31 pm

We will support this, but would prefer universal Welfare.

Wez Spencer

by **Sanctaria** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:23 am

Unfortunately I still have to get 9 approvals in 3 hours which is unlikely. I didn't have time to do a proper TG campaign, only able to contact 60 or so delegates.

I'll resubmit this and mount a proper campaign if it fails to reach quorum.

by **Bears Armed** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:03 am

Sanctaria wrote:Unfortunately I still have to get 9 approvals in 3 hours which is unlikely. I didn't have time to do a proper TG campaign, only able to contact 60 or so delegates.

I'll resubmit this and mount a proper campaign if it fails to reach quorum.

Did you just start going down the complete list of delegates, or did you try specifically targeting those those region's tags include ones suggesting likely ideological support for such policies instead? I recommend the latter method. For example, for RfIB -- in addition to contacting delegates whom I had some reason to think might support this on other grounds anyhows -- I specifically targeted the delegates of regions with the 'Liberal' tag... and that seemed to be quite a successful approach.

by **Sanctaria** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:16 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Sanctaria wrote:Unfortunately I still have to get 9 approvals in 3 hours which is unlikely. I didn't have time to do a proper TG campaign, only able to contact 60 or so delegates.

I'll resubmit this and mount a proper campaign if it fails to reach quorum.

Did you just start going down the complete list of delegates, or did you try specifically targeting those those region's tags include ones suggesting likely ideological support for such policies instead? I recommend the latter method. For example, for RfIB -- in addition to contacting delegates whom I had some reason to think might support this on other grounds anyhows -- I specifically targeted the delegates of regions with the 'Liberal' tag... and that seemed to be quite a successful approach.

I started with the complete list of regions, A-Z. It's worked for me before, but I only got to like page 50-something and many regions didn't have delegates. I just didn't have time to do my usual TG campaign.

So I'm gonna post the list of delegates that did approve here so as to TG them again later this week.

by **Sanctaria** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:00 am

Alrighty, I'm going to be resubmitting this after the minor update. I should have time to do a proper TG campaign now.

EDIT

This has been resubmitted and I've contacted the delegates who already approved it before moving on to new ones.

by **T-Gus** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:06 am

by **Ratateague** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:01 pm

I'm curious, how would this legislation be construed for citizens with more pervasive disabilities, such as autism-spectrum disorders? Such traits may not directly hamper workplace productivity until faced with more complex tasks, which they may be able to do with assistance.

by **Sanctaria** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:05 pm

Ratateague wrote:I'm curious, how would this legislation be construed for citizens with more pervasive disabilities, such as autism-spectrum disorders? Such traits may not directly hamper workplace productivity until faced with more complex tasks, which they may be able to do with assistance.

This legislation was drafted primarily for those whose illnesses prevent them from working at all. I did include a section in it, however, which encourages nations to put in place systems where those who have a disability but could work, such as someone with autism, to be able to do so.

I'm also aware that there may be another piece of legislation coming up which acutely deals with that issue; namely, helping those who are able to work but cannot for whatever reason.

by **Donoluma** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:32 am

Support

by **Sanctaria** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:23 am

Donoluma wrote:Support

Much thanks.

I need 14 more Delegates with over a day to go. This is very unusual. I conducted a TG campaign so usually I'd have gotten it over quorum by now. I'm guessing that because it's the holidays, not as many people are online.

by **Tulija** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:25 am

The debate at Congress has been quite one sided - as we aren't a nation of fascist euthanisers, we already have such benefits in place and as such we support a resolution whose aim is to spread these most civilised institutions to others, so that they may be supported in their hardship as brothers. The Ministries' of Health and State are in agreement, as is our current Executive Minister Pierce-Armstrong. Your good will is respected throughout.

Tulija SUPPORTS this resolution. Good luck.

~ Arthur Kaylor, Tulijan Delegate to the WA

by **Recklinghausen** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:45 pm

Sionis Prioratus wrote:
The General Assembly,

RE-AFFIRMING its belief that there exist various human rights, including those to shelter, food, and education,

I like it, and that is probably a personal style thing, but I would add some language to focus on the progress the WA has been doing on those issues. If I may give pieces of my own resolutions:

[S]elf-evident sentient rights, such as the right to happiness, the right to avoid harm to oneself and one's children, the right to self-determination, and the right to pursue a second chance in life,
DECLARING AS OBVIOUS that no sapient being’s health should be held hostage to any nation’s ideology, notwithstanding the sacred notion that nations of all stripes are equal before this World Assembly,
HAILING its work in ensuring ever-greater social justice for all and a better life for workers and their families;

CONSIDERING that there is much yet to be done; that there are not enough international guarantees under which a basis of security and prosperity can be established;

SEEKING to assist people in dire situations so they can insert themselves again in the workforce as soon as possible instead of being a permanent burden for all society;

ACKNOWLEDGING that many achieve the means to enjoy those rights through work and employment,

SADDENED by the reality that there often exists the unreconcilable impediment to work and employment that is disability,

BELIEVING that this threatens the ability for some to achieve their aforementioned rights,

Okay.

CONVINCED that nations should help those who cannot help themselves,

I know what you mean, but some people "cannot help themselves" to do a lot of bad things like binge-drinking, wife-beating, child-raping... if you know what I mean. I would hate to see this derailed because of ambiguous language.

Hereby

DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, a disability as a long-term debilitating physical or mental illness which renders one unable to work or be in employment;

Devil is in the details, and this is where the hard work comes. What is "long-term"? What is "unable to work"? What if a nation says that a triple amputee is quite able to do physical labor at at rock quarry, thank you very much? Or even, "illness"? Many nations might very well officially see things like depression as a moral failing, and/or schizophrenia as a demonic possession.

DIRECTS nations to create a system, or systems, of welfare to assist those who are disabled, if nations have not already done so;

Too vague. What constitutes "assist[ance]"? Can a nation give to a disabled person half a bread per week and say (correctly) it is following the Resolution's mandates?

DEMANDS that those who have been rendered disabled, as defined by this resolution, be granted adequate benefit(s) from or by the aforementioned system(s) which enable them to reach a standard of living in their nation where they can achieve the means to comfortably enjoy their human rights;

What are "their human rights"? If there are not many national human rights inside any nation (if at all), besides what international law mandates them to do, then this could leave the disabled in a worse shape than before.

RECOMMENDS that nations, unless already achieved, build on their system(s) of welfare to include in its remit those who in need yet are not disabled;

I may be mistaken, but I am worried this would be a blocker to any and all future welfare mandates.

ENCOURAGES nations to put in place systems whereby those who have a disability but could work, providing the correct infrastructure and/or assistance is in place, are given the opportunity to do so.

Okay in itself, but would this not deserve an entire resolution on its own merits? Since the current WA's Realpolitik is to not "overreach"...

Hoping to have been of help,

Yours,

I approve! Whatever it is!

by **Sanctaria** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:54 pm

Cheers.

I need 11 more approvals and I've over a day to get them. Any help is appreciated.

by **Bassett** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:51 am

I see no reason why the disabled can't receive help to put them on equal grounds.

by **Linux and the X** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:14 am

We should like to remind fellow Ambassadors to ensure they refrain from offensive and false stereotypes in discussion of this legislation.

Due to a regional political mess (OOC: the other person in my region has been too busy to log in for a month) I we are temporarily removed from delegacy, but after the crisis is resolved we will be sure to endorse this proposal.

by **Sanctaria** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:10 am

This has reached quorum and is now in the queue. I'd like to thank all the Delegates who approved.

[PASSED] Disability Welfare Act

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