[PASSED] Organ and Blood Donations Act

[Christian Democrats]

Yes, that's the sort of system this proposal urges member states to adopt.

EDIT: It's a nonmandatory clause.

That's why I said "I know it says 'urges'". In any case, Frenequesta's organ shortage (which this proposal presumes) is almost non-existent since we can grow organs easily in culture, and the completely voluntary nature of organ donation at least on the federal level is premised on this, but since you assert that the post-mortem clause is nonmandatory we can give our support.

However, in light of our ability to grow organs, we express another concern. Is the international donation clause intended to limit nations to only donating organs to other nations, or can we sell our surplus organs since that is not directly covered by the proposal?

Buying and selling organs, tissues, blood, and components thereof would not be limited by this proposal. Commerce in this area would remain a national issue. In other words, your nation would still be allowed to sell surpluses of organs.

[Allied States of Demokratia]

After careful consideration, the Federal Republic of the Allied States of Demokratia has decided to pledge its support to this proposal, and will ask its region's WA delegates to support it as well.( The Federal Republic of the Allied States of Demokratia held a vote of its member states this morning. in a stunning result, the motion was carried 8-0 to support this resolution. )

While the wording is subject to some loopholes, the Ministry of Health has determined (while working in close co-operation with the Ministry of Ethics) that this resolution is of great importance to the well being and quality of life of its citizens.
We provide an example for those nations "on the fence".

Consider for a moment a patient who has kidney failiure and must undergo Dialysis. A patient undergoing this treatment is often subject to 3 to 4 treatments a week, each lasting several hours. These treatments are very hard on the body, and often can cause other health problems. Transplantation on the other hand is a much more preffered method of treatment, as it allows a better quality of life for the affected individual.

There are a number of organs that can be donated, for example: Heart, Cornea, Liver, Kidney and Lung. Blood donation is already a widely accepted (and promoted cause). Organ donation is the next step. Recieving this is literally "the gift of life".

Our nation has a few concerns about the difficulty it may require for living donors to donate, but this seems more of a paperwork issue than anything else.

We applaud the Christian Democrats for their proposal and pledge our full support of this motion. Any assistance that we can provide is theirs. This is a resolution that our WA Delegation will work tirelessley to support and pass.


Thank you for your time, and again, thank you to the Christian Democrats for proposing such a noble resolution,
Pierre A. Pseudonym
Chairman of the Federal Republic of The Allied States of Demokratia

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

What a delightful proposal. Even if it is a bit long, we have no hesitation (beyond finishing reading it, which we eventually did) to support it, and we commend the author and author's proposal to the Assembly.

[Knootoss]

I believe this has been submitted in the wrong category.


Ambassador Aram Koopman
World Assembly representative for the Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss

[Christian Democrats]

I believe this has been submitted in the wrong category.

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Ambassador Aram Koopman
World Assembly representative for the Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss

What category would you recommend for this healthcare proposal?

The social justice category is for proposals that would "increase basic welfare."

In addition, "Social Justice" also increases government spending on welfare and healthcare . . . Economic freedoms primarily discuss how much regulation there is on business/industry or how much government spending goes to helping poor/sick people.

[Christian Democrats]

This proposal has reached quorum about 31.5 hours after submission.

[Allied States of Demokratia]

Assistant Press Secretary Phil Collins released a quick statement on behalf of Chairman of the Central Administrative Council of the Federal Republic of the Allied States of Demokratia Pierre A. Pseudonym this evening:

Today is a great day in the World Assembly, in the eyes of the Federal Republic of The Allied States of Demokratia.

With the Organ and Blood Donations Act now reaching quorum in an astonishing 31.5 hours, the first step in legislation of this reslolution has been taken.

We applaud the Christian Democrats on the progress that this resolution has made and look forward to this resolution hitting the debate floor. The Christian Democrats can count on our support in the weeks ahead as the OBDA hits the floor of the General Assembly. There is much work to be done, but the FRASD extends its congratulations on the acheivement that the Christian Democrats have accomplished, and on this note the FRASD would like to re-affirm its staunch support of the OBDA.

Collins then went on to announce that $1,000,000 Credit Dollars would be donated to a charity of the Christian Democrats choice, courtesy of the Ministry of Foriegn Affairs, as a "Early Christmas gift" to note this achievement.

[Bears Armed]

I believe this has been submitted in the wrong category.

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Ambassador Aram Koopman
World Assembly representative for the Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss

What category would you recommend for this healthcare proposal?

The social justice category is for proposals that would "increase basic welfare."

In addition, "Social Justice" also increases government spending on welfare and healthcare . . . Economic freedoms primarily discuss how much regulation there is on business/industry or how much government spending goes to helping poor/sick people.

As this proposed law would legalise transplants & transfusions in all WA nations, and wouldn't set any restriction on the potential commercial aspects of these, I suppose a case could possibly be made for 'Free Trade (Mild)'... and, on the basis of past Knootian statements, suspect that that was what Dr Koopman has in mind as an alternative...

[Knootoss]

Free Trade would be nice. I had human rights in mind. It's written to neither category though. It just certainly isn't social justice.

[Christian Democrats]

I tend to agree with Glen-Rhodes (link) that proposals such as this (right to health) fit best in the social justice category.

[Parti Ouvrier]

We support this proposal.

Wez Spencer

[The Emerald Legion]

I oppose it very strongly. Organ donation is compulsory in The Democratic States of Puissancevise. No organs wasted. Rather then burying corpses in the ground, taking up large amounts of land, the organs are taken and the bodies are cremated. A corpse is a corpse. There are several member nations that would also agree and would oppose this resolution due to the prohibition of mandatory organ donation.

If its compulsory in your nation then you might have some problems....such as diseases. STDs and genetic disease can transfer from these donated organs into the possible patients causing the same diseases and even death. I think mandatory organ donation is okay to practice but just keep it safe.

I suggest that we organize testing to see if a donator has certain transferable diseases before donation. If they have any of the diseases, they will; be refused to donate.

-Dr. Photios Benlasha M.D. Ph.D.
WA Staffer of the Grand Jewish Order
Former Chairman of Medicar Technologies.
Ex-President of Namisburrow

Which in our nation would be a complete waste of time. We are genetically Identical, and we eradicated environmental diseases a long time ago. Hence why we always wear masks outside of our territory. However over-all I do like this proposal. I'll suggest that Lord Emerald vote on it.
-MD-361
WA Medical officer for the Holy Empire of the Emerald Legions

[Unibot II]

Urges every member state to adopt an opt-out system of post-mortem organ donation, or organ harvesting;

"I've already got a minority of shit-disturbing, psychotic, pig-headed, flat-footed, door-soliciting, aneurysm-inducing, exploitative, radical and mentally disturbed, blood-refusal-card-waving religious mongrels to urge that biblical bull-crap. I certainly as hell don't need the fucking World Assembly to start echoing their spiritual concerns at the expense of people's lives and well-being," Eduard said in a grumpy attitude.

"Saying to delegations that's okay because it's 'optional' is simply a way for the Christian Democrats to pass their religious morals as the legislative demands... by forcing feeding it to more sane delegations by tying it to what is otherwise a fairly reason set of propositions," Eduard said sipping a glass of scotch.

"In others words, I'll make the Christian Democrat delegation a deal. Call it "a deal with the devil" if you like. Withdrawal the resolution, remove specifically that clause and I'll get the re-draft to quorum for you," Eduard sneered.

[Christian Democrats]

Urges every member state to adopt an opt-out system of post-mortem organ donation, or organ harvesting;

"I've already got a minority of shit-disturbing, psychotic, pig-headed, flat-footed, door-soliciting, aneurysm-inducing, exploitative, radical and mentally disturbed, blood-refusal-card-waving religious mongrels to urge that biblical bull-crap. I certainly as hell don't need the fucking World Assembly to start echoing their spiritual concerns at the expense of people's lives and well-being," Eduard said in a grumpy attitude.

Organ and blood donation is hardly a religious issue; though, some religions do have opinions on it. Jehovah's Witnesses are adamantly opposed to the donation and transfusion of blood. According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, "Organ donation after death is a noble and meritorious act and is to be encouraged as a expression of generous solidarity" (para. 2296). (For those of you who don't know, I'm Catholic.)

[Unibot II]

"I've already got a minority of shit-disturbing, psychotic, pig-headed, flat-footed, door-soliciting, aneurysm-inducing, exploitative, radical and mentally disturbed, blood-refusal-card-waving religious mongrels to urge that biblical bull-crap. I certainly as hell don't need the fucking World Assembly to start echoing their spiritual concerns at the expense of people's lives and well-being," Eduard said in a grumpy attitude.

Organ and blood donation is hardly a religious issue; though, some religions do have opinions on it. Jehovah's Witnesses are adamantly opposed to the donation and transfusion of blood. According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, "Organ donation after death is a noble and meritorious act and is to be encouraged as a expression of generous solidarity" (para. 2296). (For those of you who don't know, I'm Catholic.)

"Riiight, so then there is no point at all for "urging" that junk other than to cause offense to those saving peoples' lives; opposition to post-mortem organ and blood donation is almost always rooted in religious undertones if it be a reaction to the unsanctimonious removal of bodily organs or such... there is hardly any scientific reason not to allow some usage of corpses to save living people," Eduard said.

[Christian Democrats]

Organ and blood donation is hardly a religious issue; though, some religions do have opinions on it. Jehovah's Witnesses are adamantly opposed to the donation and transfusion of blood. According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, "Organ donation after death is a noble and meritorious act and is to be encouraged as a expression of generous solidarity" (para. 2296). (For those of you who don't know, I'm Catholic.)

"Riiight, so then there is no point at all for "urging" that junk other than to cause offense to those saving peoples' lives; opposition to post-mortem organ and blood donation is almost always rooted in religious undertones if it be a reaction to the unsanctimonious removal of bodily organs or such... there is hardly any scientific reason not to allow some usage of corpses to save living people," Eduard said.

"I urge the drunk ambassador to reread the proposal, possibly using a dictionary or encyclopedia, and tell me what part of this proposal discourages the post-mortem donation of organs."

[Corcation]

From the Desk of the Corcation Speaker of the Monarchy:

"After reading the proposal the country is in full pledge support of this. We believe that after reviewing and reading we urge others to vote in support!"

(Dont bash me for trying to go in character trying to get used to this lol)

[Allied States of Demokratia]

From the Desk of the Corcation Speaker of the Monarchy:

"After reading the proposal the country is in full pledge support of this. We believe that after reviewing and reading we urge others to vote in support!"

(Dont bash me for trying to go in character trying to get used to this lol)

OOC-- I wont if you wont.

The FRASD reminds all WA States that this is a resolution that MUST pass.

[Morlago]

Will support when this reaches the floor.

[Knootoss]

I tend to agree with Glen-Rhodes (link) that proposals such as this (right to health) fit best in the social justice category.

1) Glen-Rhodes isn't a moderator.

2) He is talking about another proposal.

3) Category is based on the aim of the resolution. It isn't social justice just because "it's about health".

Turning some common-sense (ish) rules about clean instruments into law does not help the poor or needy, particularly. In fact this resolution doesn't fit any category particularly well at all because it goes down the "I want another resolution about something so I'll just think up some rules that countries could very well have thought up by themselves". The only thing that vaguely fits a category is the consent requirement, but since organ transplantation is a medical procedure, that just doubles up on the established consent clauses in the World Assembly.

[Christian Democrats]

I tend to agree with Glen-Rhodes (link) that proposals such as this (right to health) fit best in the social justice category.

1) Glen-Rhodes isn't a moderator.

2) He is talking about another proposal.

3) Category is based on the aim of the resolution. It isn't social justice just because "it's about health".

Turning some common-sense (ish) rules about clean instruments into law does not help the poor or needy, particularly. In fact this resolution doesn't fit any category particularly well at all because it goes down the "I want another resolution about something so I'll just think up some rules that countries could very well have thought up by themselves". The only thing that vaguely fits a category is the consent requirement, but since organ transplantation is a medical procedure, that just doubles up on the established consent clauses in the World Assembly.

Social justice increases healthcare spending. A country implementing this resolution would have to spend more on healthcare (blood testing, proper storage, etc.). This proposal also attempts to decrease rumors that decrease donation rates, which requires more spending on healthcare. (The consent clause is necessary for the rest of the proposal because one of the primary rumors that prevents people from becoming organ donors is fear that doctors will let them die just to steal their organs.)

[Knootoss]

So generic healthcare related resolution = social justice now? I find this very odd indeed and would very much like to see the moderators justify it.

And the duplication is only "necessary" from your public relations standpoint. The World Assembly has, in fact, already passed a resolution about informed consent.

[Christian Democrats]

So generic healthcare related resolution = social justice now? I find this very odd indeed and would very much like to see the moderators justify it.

And the duplication is only "necessary" from your public relations standpoint. The World Assembly has, in fact, already passed a resolution about informed consent.

No, proposals that promote public health, access to healthcare, and medical safety belong in the social justice category. Which resolution has an informed consent clause that covers this area of healthcare? General Assembly Resolution 29, the Patient's Rights Act, allows patients to "refuse treatment" but is silent when patients neither consent nor object to treatment. Even if there were a slight amount of duplication (which there isn't), this proposal still would be legal because the General Assembly rules require a substantial amount of the proposal to be a duplicate. (The exact word used in the rules is actually a "majority.")

Did you oppose Resolution 128, On Abortion, or did the moderators strike it down because it had an informed consent procedure that in part duplicated and also somewhat contradicted the Patient's Rights Act's informed consent procedure? No.

The category for this proposal is proper, and the proposal itself is new and legal.

[Schipperke]

As this proposed law would legalise transplants & transfusions in all WA nations, and wouldn't set any restriction on the potential commercial aspects of these, I suppose a case could possibly be made for 'Free Trade (Mild)'... and, on the basis of past Knootian statements, suspect that that was what Dr Koopman has in mind as an alternative...

As long this does not hinder the sale of organs and other body parts. We will support this measure.
We believe the basic tenants of this proposal goes hand in hand with good business practices.

[Knootoss]

Both of those proposals "promote public health", they are human rights resolutions. Freedom in Medical Research is free trade. The Epidemic Response Act is International Security. The Institutional Psychiatry Act is Human Rights. The "World Health Authority" is Social Justice, but then, it sets out specifically to improve health standards in poor countries. So this "Health = Social Justice" argument is nonsense, unless your resolution specifically sets out to help poor people, which it doesn't.