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Condemn Lone Wolves United?

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Flemingovia
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Postby Flemingovia » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:35 am

Against.

They already have an ego far in excess of their significance. I would not waste a badge on them.
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Postby Evil Wolf » Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:24 pm

Sort of makes the Condemn badge useless if you don't use it to condemn evil deeds, eh?
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Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.

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Postby Cinistra » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:30 am

Evil Wolf wrote:Sort of makes the Condemn badge useless if you don't use it to condemn evil deeds, eh?

:clap: And there goes the whole basis for condemning nations/regions down the drain.
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>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.

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Postby General COE » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:58 pm

Evil Wolf wrote:The Black Hawks got condemned for raiding. According to those standards, someone should have submitted a condemn for each of those above acts individually.


AHEM we got condemned for endangering the functioning and survival of the security council. Thankyouverymuch.

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Postby New Rogernomics » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:11 pm

AHEM, wont be for unless LWU start drowning kittens, and invite well known celebrities with horrible song lyrics along on their raids.

PS: Its as good as it lasts, overly unimpressed, requires more evil deeds against defenceless regions.
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Postby A mean old man » Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:02 pm

The Security Council,

ACKNOWLEDGING the Lone Wolves United as one of the oldest, and most notorious invader regions in the world.

NOTING that the Lone Wolves United are among the most prominent raiders in the world, frequently griefing regions, despite the detested nature of the practice.

EXPLAINING that griefing a region is the act of destroying the region and potentially re-founding it as a trophy.

APPALLED that the tactics used by the Lone Wolves United have not been condemned by the Security Council.

ADDING that the Lone Wolves United has couped both The East Pacific and The West Pacific with success.

FURTHER ADDING that the Lone Wolves United is responsible for banning the nation of SalusaSecondus from its region TWICE!

DISMAYED that the Security Council has not recognized the infamy of the Lone Wolves United

BELIEVING that a Seal of Condemnation must be branded upon this notorious region

Hereby Condemns Lone Wolves United.


I highly suggest you make these edits.

The Security Council,

ACKNOWLEDGING Lone Wolves United as one of the oldest and most notorious raider regions,

NOTING that Lone Wolves United, which frequently griefs regions despite the detested nature of the practice, is among the most prominent raider organizations in the world,

DEFINING "griefing" as the act of destroying a region and possibly re-founding it to use it as a trophy,

APPALLED by the fact that Lone Wolves United has been using such tactics for so long without having been condemned by the Security Council,

NOTING that Lone Wolves United has staged successful coups of the governments of both The East Pacific and The West Pacific,

FURTHER NOTING that Lone Wolves United is responsible for banning the nation of SalusaSecondus from its home region twice,

DISMAYED that the Security Council has not recognized the infamy of the Lone Wolves United

BELIEVING that a Seal of Condemnation must be branded upon this notorious region


Hereby Condemns Lone Wolves United.


The APPALLED clause: The tactics have already been condemned. LWU has not.

The DISMAYED clause and the BELIEVING clause: These clauses are both redundant; get rid of them.

Please don't submit this yet. It could use a lot more material.
Last edited by A mean old man on Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:42 pm

A mean old man wrote:
The Security Council,

ACKNOWLEDGING the Lone Wolves United as one of the oldest, and most notorious invader regions in the world.

NOTING that the Lone Wolves United are among the most prominent raiders in the world, frequently griefing regions, despite the detested nature of the practice.

EXPLAINING that griefing a region is the act of destroying the region and potentially re-founding it as a trophy.

APPALLED that the tactics used by the Lone Wolves United have not been condemned by the Security Council.

ADDING that the Lone Wolves United has couped both The East Pacific and The West Pacific with success.

FURTHER ADDING that the Lone Wolves United is responsible for banning the nation of SalusaSecondus from its region TWICE!

DISMAYED that the Security Council has not recognized the infamy of the Lone Wolves United

BELIEVING that a Seal of Condemnation must be branded upon this notorious region

Hereby Condemns Lone Wolves United.


I highly suggest you make these edits.

The Security Council,

ACKNOWLEDGING Lone Wolves United as one of the oldest and most notorious raider regions,

NOTING that Lone Wolves United, which frequently griefs regions despite the detested nature of the practice, is among the most prominent raider organizations in the world,

DEFINING "griefing" as the act of destroying a region and possibly re-founding it to use it as a trophy,

APPALLED by the fact that Lone Wolves United has been using such tactics for so long without having been condemned by the Security Council,

NOTING that Lone Wolves United has staged successful coups of the governments of both The East Pacific and The West Pacific,

FURTHER NOTING that Lone Wolves United is responsible for banning the nation of SalusaSecondus from its home region twice,

DISMAYED that the Security Council has not recognized the infamy of the Lone Wolves United

BELIEVING that a Seal of Condemnation must be branded upon this notorious region


Hereby Condemns Lone Wolves United.


The APPALLED clause: The tactics have already been condemned. LWU has not.

The DISMAYED clause and the BELIEVING clause: These clauses are both redundant; get rid of them.

Please don't submit this yet. It could use a lot more material.


Thanks AMOM. I'll change that.

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Postby A mean old man » Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:31 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:Thanks AMOM. I'll change that.

Do you want to be listed as a co-author?


Sure, if you'd like to list me as such. I'm sure EW would exult in believing that he finally convinced me to write/help write a condemnation of his region.
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A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby Eastasia » Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:49 pm

FURTHER NOTING that Lone Wolves United is responsible for banning the nation of SalusaSecondus from its home region twice,

Why is this significant at all? I'm sure that there are other nations that have been ejected from their home region more than twice by the same group of invaders on Nationstates.
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Postby A mean old man » Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:54 pm

Eastasia wrote:
FURTHER NOTING that Lone Wolves United is responsible for banning the nation of SalusaSecondus from its home region twice,

Why is this significant at all? I'm sure that there are other nations that have been ejected from their home region more than twice by the same group of invaders on Nationstates.


Because Salusa is a game administrator, but we're not allowed to type that out so it'll appear as a part of the large nation tag when the proposal is submitted.

:roll:
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:19 pm

A mean old man wrote:
Eastasia wrote:Why is this significant at all? I'm sure that there are other nations that have been ejected from their home region more than twice by the same group of invaders on Nationstates.


Because Salusa is a game administrator, but we're not allowed to type that out so it'll appear as a part of the large nation tag when the proposal is submitted.

:roll:



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Postby A mean old man » Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:19 pm

Sure, why not? I'll see if I can pull any substantial material in here to use in this proposal that would make it stronger.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:25 pm

A mean old man wrote:Sure, why not? I'll see if I can pull any substantial material in here to use in this proposal that would make it stronger.


Thank AMOM!!! :hug:
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Postby LoL island » Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:50 pm

for being a 'mean old man' you seem rather helpful
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Postby A mean old man » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:06 pm

LoL island wrote:for being a 'mean old man' you seem rather helpful


Believe me, sometimes this persona is extremely appropriate. ;)

The Security Council,

ACKNOWLEDGING Lone Wolves United (LWU) as one of the oldest and most notorious raider regions,

NOTING that Lone Wolves United, which frequently griefs regions despite the detested nature of the practice, is among the most prominent raider organizations in the world,

DEFINING "griefing" as the act of destroying a region and possibly re-founding it to use it as a trophy,

RECOGNIZING Lone Wolves United as having recently entered and having forcefully gained control over active regions with long-established communities such as The Proletariat Coalition and Gardeshia, and noting that LWU successfully thwarted others' attempts to enter the regions and protect them from harm,

FURTHER RECOGNIZING that Lone Wolves United, thanks to the espionage committed by the leader of the attack on Gardeshia which allowed this leader to gain influence in the target region, was able to overrun and destroy Gardeshia despite the fact that the region had a founder and an active community,


APPALLED by the fact that Lone Wolves United has been using such tactics for so long without having been condemned by the Security Council,

NOTING that Lone Wolves United has staged successful coups of the governments of both The East Pacific and The West Pacific,

FURTHER NOTING that Lone Wolves United is responsible for banning the nation of SalusaSecondus from its home region twice,

Hereby Condemns Lone Wolves United.

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Last edited by A mean old man on Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:18 pm

Illegal, branding. Only one co-author.

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Postby A mean old man » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:20 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:Illegal, branding. Only one co-author.


Not in the SC.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:20 pm

A mean old man wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Illegal, branding. Only one co-author.


Not in the SC.


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Postby Cinistra » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:32 am

New Rogernomics wrote:AHEM, wont be for unless LWU start drowning kittens, and invite well known celebrities with horrible song lyrics along on their raids.

PS: Its as good as it lasts, overly unimpressed, requires more evil deeds against defenceless regions.

So puppy kicking ain't enough :o ? I'm shocked.
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"Send forth all legions! Do not stop the attack until the city is taken! Slay them all!"
>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:28 am

Thanks for the help AMOM. I'll add in the changes when I get off my itouch and onto a normal computer
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Postby Mahaj » Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:54 am

Something about working with Nazis, maybe?

I'd focus more on that than the raiding itself.
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Postby Cinistra » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:06 am

Mahaj wrote:Something about working with Nazis, maybe?

I'd focus more on that than the raiding itself.

Nazi, yes. The magic wand for creating condemnations.
"Send forth all legions! Do not stop the attack until the city is taken! Slay them all!"
>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.

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Postby Frattastan » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:10 am

Condemn?

I want to commend Evil Wolf.
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Postby Cinistra » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:16 am

Frattastan wrote:Condemn?

I want to commend Evil Wolf.

On which grounds? And this condemnation concerns LWU, not EW.
"Send forth all legions! Do not stop the attack until the city is taken! Slay them all!"
>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.

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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:21 pm

We will abstain. Despite my criticisms of Lone Wolf, and having a puppet in Anarchy ousted, (although I this nation was also ousted from 10ki for similar open airing of differences), we consider LWU a product of capitalism. We are not surprised at their illusions to what fun really is.

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