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Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:15 am**

I would like to take this opportunity to thank Great Azarath...

... if this passes I shall get to add to my badge count with the repeal.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:25 am**

The Jaguar Sun and Islas de Jaina vote for.

However, the necessity of a definition for "sapience" would ultimately be unnecessary if the wording were changing to "human being" rather than "sapient being". Since we're discussing humans who are in fact sapient, I don't think there's a need for additional terminology.
Otherwise, a vote for as I said.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:46 am**

I vote against.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:51 am**

*Finds corrupt loopholes for those bent on distroying prosition*

Make very strict laws as to who can aquire a prositiue example:

Must be a maximum of 4 feet
Must be older than 20
Must be younger than 40
Must not have a criminal record
Must not have an STD
Must pay a 99.99% tax to the govenment if services are used.
Must be listed in lower class
Must have large sums of money
Must have no family
Must own 2 properties

(see how narrow it can get?)

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:55 am**

Dukopolious wrote:*Finds corrupt loopholes for those bent on distroying prosition*

Make very strict laws as to who can aquire a prositiue example:

Must be a maximum of 4 feet
Must be older than 20
Must be younger than 40
Must not have a criminal record
Must not have an STD
Must pay a 99.99% tax to the govenment if services are used.
Must be listed in lower class
Must have large sums of money
Must have no family
Must own 2 properties

(see how narrow it can get?)

No, I just simply propose that the prostitute/customer must hold a Nobel Prize in Medicine. Boom, problem solved.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:59 am**

How did this reach quorum?!

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:06 am**

Dystopian Malisin wrote:How did this reach quorum?!

How is this passing so far? Did GA TG delegtes ordering them to vote for or be called heartless?

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:16 am**

I can't believe that for has double the vote. I will not follow this immorality even if it does somehow pass.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:40 am**

AGAINST for violating nations' sovereign rights.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:41 am**

This is a disgusting proposal. Voting strongly against.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:50 am**

against and if it passes and the repeal(there will be a repeal) fails i'm leaving the WA

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:01 am**

"We think it's morally wrong to force this legislation on individual member-states. This should be up to each and every State to decide themselves, internally. I will therefore vote to defeat this resolution".

- John Wissel, Utopiaana's WA Delegate.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:25 am**

That reminds me. We probably need this card to be played:

Best sums up what the IntFed people seem to be getting at.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:46 am**

Prostitutes and member states that reside with the World Assembly MUST ABIDE to the following statements:
(1) Prostitutes are made fully aware of the health or other specific risk connected to prostitution;
(2) A prostitute has the right to refuse any sexual act;
(3) A prostitute has the right to create a contract with his/her/its client agreeing on specific details.

so member ns"s have to allow prostiutiion i personaly refuse this bill and will immediatly vote against it. no nation in my region shall agree with this deeply imoral bill. it is against my reliogion. i will vote to repeal this bill asap.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:25 am**

Utopiaana wrote:"We think it's morally wrong to force this legislation on individual member-states. This should be up to each and every State to decide themselves, internally. I will therefore vote to defeat this resolution".

- John Wissel, Utopiaana's WA Delegate.

"Hear, hear. I don't know that there has been a resolution that the CoS has so firmly disagreed with as this one."

--Langston Everett, WA Ambassador of the CoS

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:26 am**

So stupid, I'm actually agreeing with it. I just want to see it get passed through.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:51 am**

Dystopian Malisin wrote:How did this reach quorum?!

It had the support of eighty delegates, of course.

We would like to hear more discussion of the risks of violence against women and to the public health before voting on this resolution. We are not interested in claims of "morality" or blatantly false allegations that the World Assembly does not have authority to legislate on this subject. We have not reviewed the prior debate on drafts of this resolution, so references to relevant pages of that discussion, if they exist, would also be appreciated.

[Lord] Michael Evif
Goobergunchian UN WA Ambassador
Citizen of the Rejected Realms

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:56 am**

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:22 am**

In Miley World it is prohibited to have sex before the wedding. And it is prohibited to have sex wiff someone else than your spouse. So prostitution is banned here. We don't have prostitutes and if we does, they're arrested. So prostitution will NEVER be legal here.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:56 am**

Great Azarath wrote:
Embolalia wrote:Previous censorship-worthy joking aside, this really isn't something the WA needs to decide on. The WA should infringe upon sovereignty only to protect the fundamental rights and safety of citizens. Prostitution is not a fundamental right. I agree, it's something people should be allowed to do. I don't think it's so important that it should be passed down from upon high as a mandate.

That said, I would like to thank the author for so thoroughly and arbitrarily limiting our ability to regulate the industry. This will make the proposal very easy to repeal, should it pass.

-E. Rory Hywel
WA Ambassador for Embolalia

What the? You can add your own protocol making it to your liking. I think this proposal is pretty vague so you can make it to your liking.

FURTHER PROHIBITS Individual member-states regulating prostitution-based enterprises to the point where it no longer becomes profitable for the enterprise, or its employees;

My interest, as a legislator, is not industry profits. My interest is the health and safety of my constituents. I frankly don't give a damn whether the fucking industry is profitable. And if you know the first thing about industry regulations, it's that the second you say you're going to add regulations, they start complaining that it will hurt profits. Given how vague this is, all the industry groups would have to say is "if you require us to do fill-in-the-blank, we won't be able to make a profit!" And then, no matter how sensible the regulation, we won't be allowed to do it.

-E. Rory Hywel
WA Ambassador for Embolalia

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:56 am**

Voted no, seems like a disgusting proposal to me. Most women go into it because they have no other job options.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:37 am**

We are strongly against this proposal, for moral, religious, and public health reasons. Furthermore, we believe the nation sponsoring this resolution, in addition to all nations voting in favor, should be deeply ashamed of themselves. Indeed, a Security Council resolution condemning all those nations would be appropriate.

We vote no, and eagerly look forward to a resolution to repeal.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:44 am**

Im already working on a repeal. This is disgraceful and I will not stand for it. Prostitution is against every fibre of my existence and I will not follow this proposal, even if it results in my nation being condemned. Why you feel the need for prostitution to be forced upon the world as compulsory I don't know. You can have prostitution in your nation but I won't let you bring it to my nation.

VOTE NO TO LEGALIZING PROSTITUTION!

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:00 am**

Here's my post from the silly/illegal proposals thread about this (I made the post there before this thread was created):

Quelesh wrote:As its discussion thread has, unfortunately, been locked, I am forced to post my response to the Legalizing Prostitution proposal here. A new discussion thread for that proposal may well be created, as it looks like it's going to reach quorum and come to vote soon. If so, please feel free to move this post to that thread.

While I agree that prostitution should be legalized, there are two strong reservations that I have to the proposal as worded.

HEREBY MANDATES that all member states residing with the World Assembly legalize the business and free trade of prostitution within the confines of previously existent international law.

The first is the inclusion of the phrase "residing with the World Assembly" here. The common interpretation of the word "reside" is "live" or "dwell." The inclusion of this phrase creates a loophole that would allow any member state to ignore the requirement to legalize prostitution, as that member state does not "reside" with the World Assembly.

ENCOURAGES individual member states to impose additional protocol or standards that do not conflict with this resolution.

The second is this clause. This clause explicitly allows (and indeed encourages) any "protocol" or "standards" that do not conflict with this proposal, on any matter whatever. Therefore, this clause could act as a blocker against any future proposal that would prevent member states from enacting protocols or standards on any subject, as such protocols and standards are already explicitly allowed.

I think that the proposal should be withdrawn, if there is still time before it comes to vote, so that these issues can be fixed.

The proposal cannot be withdrawn at this time, as it is at vote, so I think that the proposal as currently worded should be defeated and then resubmitted once these two issues have been addressed.

And, oh yeah:

The Republic of Lanos wrote:How about we legalize incest while we're on the topic of letting immorality come to our nations.

GAR16 already requires that consensual incest be legal.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:09 am**

The Kiaser Colonies wrote:Im already working on a repeal. This is disgraceful and I will not stand for it. Prostitution is against every fibre of my existence and I will not follow this proposal, even if it results in my nation being condemned. Why you feel the need for prostitution to be forced upon the world as compulsory I don't know. You can have prostitution in your nation but I won't let you bring it to my nation.

VOTE NO TO LEGALIZING PROSTITUTION!

I urge you to not draft your repeal secretly and do it here in Charlotte Ryberg's thread. She isn't the only one drafting a repeal. This could be a race for the insta-repeal! dun-dun-dun!

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