[PASSED] Forced Marriages Ban Act

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Regional delegates, please approve this proposal here.

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GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
Forced Marriages Ban Act
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights | Strength: Mild | Proposed by: (Image) Christian Democrats

The General Assembly,

Realizing the importance of marriage in many societies,

Respecting the various cultural and religious customs surrounding marriage,

Recognizing that many, if not most, marriages are intended to be lifelong unions,

Believing therefore that no person should be coerced to marry,

1. Defines forced marriage, for the purposes of this resolution, as the contractual or covenantal union of persons without the informed consent of every person being joined or a similar nonconsensual or coerced union of persons;

2. Prohibits forced marriage;

3. Forbids member states and their political subdivisions from enforcing or providing legal recognition to forced marriages performed in other countries;

4. Requires each member state to offer to annul all forced marriages of people in its jurisdiction; and

5. Recommends that member states establish special law enforcement divisions to investigate claims of forced marriage and communities that supposedly countenance such unions.

You have no idea how much I would love to support this, but in clause 3 "forbids" is too strong. A revised draft that reduced it to explicitly enumerating that members can decline legal recognition to all forced marriages and recommending that they do so would receive our support.

[Halastan]

I do not know if I can support this when in some nations arrnaged marriages are part of their culture and the people living there have been practicing this act for generations I don't think the WA should have the right to tell someone how they should marry or ban somthing that is part of a people's culture.

-Halastans Forgein Minister

[Christian Democrats]

You have no idea how much I would love to support this, but in clause 3 "forbids" is too strong. A revised draft that reduced it to explicitly enumerating that members can decline legal recognition to all forced marriages and recommending that they do so would receive our support.

Recognizing foreign forced marriages is almost as bad as allowing them in your own country. I don't believe clause 3 is too strong.

I do not know if I can support this when in some nations arrnaged marriages are part of their culture and the people living there have been practicing this act for generations I don't think the WA should have the right to tell someone how they should marry or ban somthing that is part of a people's culture.

-Halastans Forgein Minister

As I've pointed out to some regional delegates via telegram, there is a subtle but important difference between arranged marriages and forced marriages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arranged_marriage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_marriage

This proposal would not disallow arranged marriages; rather, arranged marriage would remain a national issue.

[Unizipper]

There is a difference between a Forced and an Arranged Marriage, correct?

EDIT: Ah I see you've post it above me. Good show.

[Christian Democrats]

Unibot, I applaud you. You manage simultaneously to participate in liberations and post in the forum.

[Eridanuus]

What if people who were married, move to another country and one of them claims they were forced into marriage?

What measures could be introduced to determine this?

I mean might as well just make divorse easier, if everyone can just claim the marriage was forced.

EDIT: That said though I should mention I will support this bill, I mean although flawed it does serve to end unions that would otherwise for lack of a better term, suck.

[Rejaina]

Don't support this bill as it hinders traditional culture marriages don't support it.

[Connopolis]

Don't support this bill as it hinders traditional culture marriages don't support it.

Ambassador, are archaic traditions more important than the liberties of your people? I fail to see that as a valid argument.

[Dreamer knights]

I support this bill eventhough nowadays the decision of marriage are made from both, man and woman. We aren't any more in the old ways where, a woman is force to marry a man so the family can get some of the land from part of the other family. Netheir, a man being force to marry a woman because she got pregnant, he will be responsable of taking care of the money to support the baby, but it isn't a, excuse to be tied in marriage for the rest of life, or as long as they can be together.
Besides, the last person has the right to choose, and mean those who are getting marry by force, they are humans and also they have civil rights too.

Soooooooooo, I support it without a doubt in mind.

[Quadrimmina]

The full government of the Republic of Quadrimmina backs this resolution, and hopes to see it expeditiously put into law.

[Iksalvor]

Ambassador, are archaic traditions more important than the liberties of your people? I fail to see that as a valid argument.

I'm more concerned about the fact that the Assembly somehow sees this purely cultural issue as something which it needs to stick its nose into. Whether or not arranged marriages are allowed within a nation is solely up to the nation in question.

While I would agree forced marriages are an assault on personal liberties, the bill's definition of a "forced marriage" can include arranged marriages initiated by cultural tradition in which one of the members is unwilling. Such a case is something which those involved would have to manage, not the Assembly.

I fear to know how much of a hindrance to national governance this will be. Member nations have enough to deal with besides finding and preventing/reversing marriages which this bill describes.

Against, simply because I feel the Assembly is wasting its time with this resolution.

[Dizyntk]

The Dizyntk Imperium is in full support of this act. We hope that all nations will see the wisdom in it and vote in favor of it's acceptance.

[Cenetra]

Don't support this bill as it hinders traditional culture marriages don't support it.

Wait, what? While I realize that some cultures may believe arranged marriages have value, no reasonable nation can say it supports having the bride, groom, etc. march to the alter at gunpoint or be dragged there in chains.




OP, I strongly support the general concept of this resolution. However, I would like to see a clause addressing the signing of consent agreements or similar procedures under duress or coercion.

[Dizyntk]

Don't support this bill as it hinders traditional culture marriages don't support it.

Wait, what? While I realize that some cultures may believe arranged marriages have value, no reasonable nation can say it supports having the bride, groom, etc. march to the alter at gunpoint or be dragged there in chains.




OP, I strongly support the general concept of this resolution. However, I would like to see a clause addressing the signing of consent agreements or similar procedures under duress or coercion.

You would be amazed at how many "unreasonable" nations there are.

[District Thirteen]

I don't think the version currently at vote needs any changes.
-A puppet of free pangea

[Cenetra]

Wait, what? While I realize that some cultures may believe arranged marriages have value, no reasonable nation can say it supports having the bride, groom, etc. march to the alter at gunpoint or be dragged there in chains.




OP, I strongly support the general concept of this resolution. However, I would like to see a clause addressing the signing of consent agreements or similar procedures under duress or coercion.

You would be amazed at how many "unreasonable" nations there are.

Exactly. If there were no unreasonable nations, there would be no need for laws like this one.
I was informing Rejaina that culture is not a valid reason to oppose the FMBA.

[Bulgharia]

AGAINST. This proposal seeks to destroy the moral values of the communities, and Bulgharia cannot accept it.

Nikolay Mladenov,

Minister of Foreign Affairs of Bulgharia
Bulgharian Ambassador to the World Assembly and the Security Council

[Sophokratos]

Fun Act, but nr. 5 is just ridiculous! XD

[Opaloka]

In opaloka archane concepts such as marriage do not exist. We have free love & collective child care. But for less free nations this could be a good thing. We await our region's democratic instruction but expect that to be in the affirmative.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

That was a response to a question about someone of age and understanding (like a Stephen Hawking) that may need to communicate through others to consent to marriage.

We're still a bit worried that member states could render the act almost totally ineffectual on those grounds. However, we hope it gets approved anyway.

[Nivekiland]

We wholeheartedly support this act!

[Ratateague]

I am all for this resolution. However there is a clause that needs clarification:

5. Recommends that member states establish special law enforcement divisions to investigate claims of forced marriage and communities that supposedly countenance such unions.

It doesn't provide a reasonable range of duties or powers vested in such enforcement, nor does it provide a scope of fines or sentencing.
So is it my understanding that it could be anywhere from doing nothing or asking politely, to as far as unwarranted, invasive investigations, or possibly execution on the spot?

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Abstain, but I wish to emphasise that forced marriages is something that can't be handled alone by just one member country, especially if they try doing it overseas to bypass Minoan law.

[Soviet Socialist Moldavia]

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GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
Forced Marriages Ban Act
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights | Strength: Mild | Proposed by: (Image) Christian Democrats

The General Assembly,

Realizing the importance of marriage in many societies,

Respecting the various cultural and religious customs surrounding marriage,

Recognizing that many, if not most, marriages are intended to be lifelong unions,

Believing therefore that no person should be coerced to marry,

1. Defines forced marriage, for the purposes of this resolution, as the contractual or covenantal union of persons without the informed consent of every person being joined or a similar nonconsensual or coerced union of persons;

2. Prohibits forced marriage;

3. Forbids member states and their political subdivisions from enforcing or providing legal recognition to forced marriages performed in other countries;

4. Requires each member state to offer to annul all forced marriages of people in its jurisdiction; and

5. Recommends that member states establish special law enforcement divisions to investigate claims of forced marriage and communities that supposedly countenance such unions.

REACHED QUORUM ON AUGUST 12, 2011

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I support this

[Zanzar]

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