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by Mallorea and Riva » Mon May 30, 2011 2:57 pm
by Krioval » Tue May 31, 2011 10:14 am
by Mallorea and Riva » Tue May 31, 2011 12:12 pm
Krioval wrote:Delegates approving this legislation, just prior to the close of the voting period:
Mallorea and Riva, Flibbleites, Charlotte Ryberg, Knootoss, Benigea, Redrake, The Island of ZAM, Mexico and its People, Going Postal, Indian Gangs, General Hammond, Galactic Furs, Iverista, Krioval, Ghanara, NewTexas, Diol, Shikarpur, Todd McCloud, Dagnia, The Child of the Jago, Monikian WA Mission, Caffeine Addicts, Jasarite, Portlos, Leather-Gloved Germany, Cresilia, The Water Supply, Sanctus et Filios, Die Konservativen, Mesarian, Forum Seven, CheyenneMountains, Texina, Eateron, Architeuthis, Grays Harbor, The Triangulum, Shrand, Jedi-Gangsters, Krankor
by Mallorea and Riva » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:37 pm
by Parti Ouvrier » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:07 pm
Mallorea and Riva wrote:Submitted!
by Mallorea and Riva » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:10 pm
by Bears Armed » Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:31 am
by Mallorea and Riva » Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:08 am
Bears Armed wrote:Regarding the argument, raised by several people, that this is something that the member nations could do well enough for themselves:
If they have to build facilities of their own for this purpose then some might not bother, meaning that if any species endemic to those nations were to become extinct then those species would be lost to the worlds forever: However if there is already a (WA-run) facility in existence for this purpose that they could use, so that all they have to do is collect & send off the genetic samples, then I think that they'd be more likely to save the samples and that therefore those species would be a bit more likely to be recoverable if their current stocks died out... which would be a good thing.
by Mallorea and Riva » Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:35 am
Approvals: 84 (Robustial, Mallorea and Riva, Zepplien, Jedi8246, Ghanara, Flibbleites, Mewsland, Indian Gangs, Wapakalypse, The Water Supply, Emperor Neo, Moral Arbitration, Aridiya, NewTexas, Grays Harbor, Tchaikovskia, Moses Wilhelm, Sergetank, Boatail hollowpoints, Radkicks, Vaelkhar, Kleinekatzen, The Triangulum, Mesarian, Drunk teaspoons, Donktonkia, General Hammond, Lago Maggiore, Denjaruut, RobertLodge-sur-Mer, Adamtopiah, Knootoss, Feranal, Charlotte Ryberg, The Island of ZAM, Darmen, Mousebumples, Odinslund, Draculanovia, Mosershall, Nothim, Nuew, BangDeck, EndlessOcean, Thulcan, Mortelatuzia, MorecambeFC, Tunneydam, Napaleo, Yavin 1221, Freedansia, Arogue, K-Dawgland, Human and Alien Life, Shrand, Leather-Gloved Germany, Krioval, Todd McCloud, Architeuthis, Heartland Federation, Diol, Jedi-Gangsters, Brynnar, DaemonMan, Trektopolis, Kawther, Ayakera, Smt_101, The Orion Nebula, Octopucta, Houkong, Kvaughn, Navonodish, Galactic Furs, Excaliburia, Tutislovania, Nayrbja, Cold Archivia, The Child of the Jago, The Warring Factions, Capisaria, BURNINATI0N, Kitago, The Voltarum)
Status: Quorum Reached: In Queue!
by Darenjo » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:48 am
by Mallorea and Riva » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:49 am
Darenjo wrote:Congratulations. I will certainly vote in support of your repeal effort.
by Catollicco » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:55 am
by The Penguins Island » Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:46 pm
Mallorea and Riva wrote:[*] The logistical issues that some nations may encounter when making contributions and/or sending their scientists to the facility to conduct research;
[*] The security risk as a single disaster - whether caused by nature or by man - would take out all materials, information, and employees of the facility
by Mallorea and Riva » Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:28 pm
Catollicco wrote:You have the vote of the Holy Empire of Catollicco for your wonderful bill. We will do whatever we can to help this situation.
Regards,
His Holiness, Emperor of Catollicco, Francis Xavier
The Penguins Island wrote:Mallorea and Riva wrote:[*] The logistical issues that some nations may encounter when making contributions and/or sending their scientists to the facility to conduct research;
[*] The security risk as a single disaster - whether caused by nature or by man - would take out all materials, information, and employees of the facility
These are realistic issues. A network of multiple (regional?) facilities would be less costly and more safe.
My government will support the abrogation.
by Jedi Utopians » Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:31 am
by The Coyote Coalition » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:48 pm
by Jedi Utopians » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:39 pm
The Coyote Coalition wrote:To: The Halls of the General Assembly
From: Eustace Levi, Managing Director
While I disagree with this proposal, I'll reserve any and all rebuttals I might have for the impending vote. It should go without saying that, should this repeal succeed, I will gladly consider the content contained within as constructive criticism when considering a future draft.
In addition to the criticism contained within the proposal itself, there are distinct indications that the current mindset within the World Assembly would prefer tag along information to specify what many would view as self-explanatory. I want it to be clear, though, that this isn't an attempt to be insulting but, rather, an acknowledgement that extra information would help to further clarify various points to those who don't fully grasp the concepts an author might place within any proposal put to a vote within this esteemed organization.
(OOC: Fortunately, it looks like the bulk of the voting period should be over the weekend, so I'll actually be able to participate. I look forward to the inevitable debate.)
by Mallorea and Riva » Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:59 pm
by The Coyote Coalition » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:03 pm
Jedi Utopians wrote:To put a different spin on your ideas here, I think what people would like is clarity. We have hundreds of thousands of words in the English language, and they often have multiple, sometimes contradictory meanings. We also have thousands of lawyers, whose very profession is owed to fact that meaning can be misinterpreted by even the slightest change of a word or phrase. Thus, lawmaking bodies such as this need to be exceedingly careful in the words they use and the way they are put together in order to prevent "self-explanatory" from being corrupted into "self-serving." For this reason, I often get involved (when I have time) to seeing that words that seem self-evident are clearly defined in law (you'll find that in the real world, this is also done) so as to prevent any corruption, not confusion.
by Discoveria » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:23 am
by Jedi Utopians » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:36 am
The Coyote Coalition wrote:To: Son Rai, envoy of the Republic Council
From: Eustace Levi, Managing DirectorJedi Utopians wrote:To put a different spin on your ideas here, I think what people would like is clarity. We have hundreds of thousands of words in the English language, and they often have multiple, sometimes contradictory meanings. We also have thousands of lawyers, whose very profession is owed to fact that meaning can be misinterpreted by even the slightest change of a word or phrase. Thus, lawmaking bodies such as this need to be exceedingly careful in the words they use and the way they are put together in order to prevent "self-explanatory" from being corrupted into "self-serving." For this reason, I often get involved (when I have time) to seeing that words that seem self-evident are clearly defined in law (you'll find that in the real world, this is also done) so as to prevent any corruption, not confusion.
While this may be true to a degree, during the creation of this resolution there was a great deal of debate over what the word "acceptable" meant in "acceptable preservation methods". It goes without saying the argument is ridiculous, as acceptable is a straightforward word with a definite meaning. Many seemed to feel that a preservation method that would be viewed as acceptable by the staff scientists at WASP would be little more than a dank closet somewhere. While I, personally, feel that many of those arguing this were adopting a position of willful ignorance, I can't be certain this was the case for everyone.
Of course, the reasoning behind this particular decision came about because it was brought to our attention that many nations have technology much more advanced than our own. The initial draft had specific instruction for preservation, (which were modeled after the two facilities that existed in the real world at the time and, both of our nations being analogous to real world technology seemed like a good idea), although, in light of the varied nations a definitive word such as acceptable was clearly the way to go. Of course, there was also a minor quibble over the use of the word arctic, (some confusing it with the proper noun Arctic, which would have specified a real world location) until some unfortunate definition wars cleared it up. That, of course, isn't the primary concern of this repeal attempt.
by Mallorea and Riva » Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:23 pm
by Isaris » Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:27 pm
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