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Sciongrad
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Postby Sciongrad » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:38 pm

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Greater Cesnica wrote:Would you like to report GenSec for abuse of power? Go ahead.

Apparently saying anything that doesn't pleasure GenSec is an accusation of abuse. Splendid.

It's not. If you feel a member of GenSec if abusing their position, report it in moderation. If not, don't.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:22 pm

Sciongrad wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Apparently saying anything that doesn't pleasure GenSec is an accusation of abuse. Splendid.

It's not. If you feel a member of GenSec if abusing their position, report it in moderation. If not, don't.

Cesnica was implying that my lack of admiration toward GenSec was an accusation of abuse. Any other interpretation makes their post nonsensical.
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:02 pm

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Kylia Quilor wrote:What is 'right' about CD's commendation? His GA resolution work? If you disagree with his GA resolutions, you don't tend to think they're commendworthy behavior... that's not small-minded, that's just how logic works..

Which resolutions? The one that ensures those with disabilities have all necessary assistance in voting? The one that outlaws forced marriages? The one that stopped corporations from profiting from the exploitation of poor farmers? You know he's never passed an abortion resolution, right?

And even if you disagree with his work (although I suspect you are unfamiliar with it), his contribution to the game from an OOC perspective is substantial and commendable. This vote is a sham.

Wallenburg wrote:That is, until Moderation throws it back to this thread.

If your complaint is that GenSec is abusing its power, it belongs in moderation. If you're just whining, then it will be sent back to this forum.

I'm not voting against this because of his resolutions or GA work, I'm explaining how his resolutions and GA work can lead to a non-small minded reason to oppose his commendation. I'm voting against this because every interaction I've had with CD has been profoundly unpleasant.

Also, it isn't for lack of trying that he's failed to pass a WA resolution on abortion.

There are many groups and people who have contributed greatly to the game from an OOC perspective who would never be commedned (See: most condemned GPers and GP regions, most condemned RPers..., etc)
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Postby The Greater Libertalian Islands » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:06 pm

Outlined here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=865227

The Greater Libertalian Islands will be voting FOR being in favour of commending the Christian Democrats. We believe the aims and actions of the CD align much with our own beliefs and so will throw our blind but ever strong support behind them.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:59 am

Kylia Quilor wrote:Also, CD is just a repungant person to talk to or interact with
Kylia Quilor wrote:I'm voting against this because every interaction I've had with CD has been profoundly unpleasant.

Honestly, I can't recall ever interacting with you. I know a little bit about you as a player* -- founder of Kantrias, runs around in some raider-monarchist circles, recently came out as genderqueer/questioning -- but I don't think I've ever talked to you.


* Just as I know a little bit about most of this game's prominent players.
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Postby Sciongrad » Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:55 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Sciongrad wrote:It's not. If you feel a member of GenSec if abusing their position, report it in moderation. If not, don't.

Cesnica was implying that my lack of admiration toward GenSec was an accusation of abuse. Any other interpretation makes their post nonsensical.

Or she could have assumed you were talking about GenSec misconduct, seeing as you were responding to a post that said "If you have an accusation of GenSec misconduct to levy, the place to do it is in Moderation or by GHR. This is not the proper venue for slinging unsupported allegations around."
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:38 am

Sciongrad wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Cesnica was implying that my lack of admiration toward GenSec was an accusation of abuse. Any other interpretation makes their post nonsensical.

Or she could have assumed you were talking about GenSec misconduct, seeing as you were responding to a post that said "If you have an accusation of GenSec misconduct to levy, the place to do it is in Moderation or by GHR. This is not the proper venue for slinging unsupported allegations around."

I assumed and continue to assume that Cesnica is capable of more than kindergarten-level reading comprehension. For that reason, I consider your interpretation improper.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:41 am

"Commend Christian Democrats" was defeated 9,838 votes to 3,673.
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:57 am

Christian Democrats wrote:
Kylia Quilor wrote:Also, CD is just a repungant person to talk to or interact with
Kylia Quilor wrote:I'm voting against this because every interaction I've had with CD has been profoundly unpleasant.

Honestly, I can't recall ever interacting with you. I know a little bit about you as a player* -- founder of Kantrias, runs around in some raider-monarchist circles, recently came out as genderqueer/questioning -- but I don't think I've ever talked to you.


* Just as I know a little bit about most of this game's prominent players.

We've engaged in passing discussions here, in GP and in Technical, and every single one has been profoundly unpleasant, especially your peanut-gallery bomb throwing in Technical.
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Postby Drasnia » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:14 am

Kylia Quilor wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:Honestly, I can't recall ever interacting with you. I know a little bit about you as a player* -- founder of Kantrias, runs around in some raider-monarchist circles, recently came out as genderqueer/questioning -- but I don't think I've ever talked to you.


* Just as I know a little bit about most of this game's prominent players.

We've engaged in passing discussions here, in GP and in Technical, and every single one has been profoundly unpleasant, especially your peanut-gallery bomb throwing in Technical.

Certainly one person in this interaction has been unpleasant to deal with.

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Postby Greater Gilead » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:50 am

Tinhampton wrote:"Commend Christian Democrats" was defeated 9,838 votes to 3,673.

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