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SkyDip
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Ex-Nation

Postby SkyDip » Tue May 21, 2013 8:10 am

We've reached quorum, folks! Thank you to all approving Delegates. I hope to see a landslide Condemnation of such a destructive nation pass easily in the coming days.
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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.

Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.

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Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Iron States
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Founded: May 03, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Iron States » Tue May 21, 2013 9:43 am

We the delegation of Iron States strongly condemn this resolution as Jakker is not a member of the WA this violates the WA charter and we will be voting against this motion.

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Mallorea and Riva
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Mallorea and Riva » Tue May 21, 2013 9:45 am

Iron States wrote:We the delegation of Iron States strongly condemn this resolution as Jakker is not a member of the WA this violates the WA charter and we will be voting against this motion.

Iron States Ambassador to the WA
Nicholi Wytovich

What charter?
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Iron States
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Postby Iron States » Tue May 21, 2013 9:48 am

The WA Charter states that if there is a resolution of condemnation that person has to be a member of the WA as was the case in the last resolution "Condemn Emporia Towers".

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Mallorea and Riva
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Tue May 21, 2013 9:57 am

Iron States wrote:The WA Charter states that if there is a resolution of condemnation that person has to be a member of the WA as was the case in the last resolution "Condemn Emporia Towers".

Ambassador to the WA - Nicholi Wytovich

No it does not. Please show me where it says this.
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SkyDip
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Ex-Nation

Postby SkyDip » Tue May 21, 2013 10:06 am

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Iron States wrote:The WA Charter states that if there is a resolution of condemnation that person has to be a member of the WA as was the case in the last resolution "Condemn Emporia Towers".

Ambassador to the WA - Nicholi Wytovich

No it does not. Please show me where it says this.

Mall is quite right. You can Commend or Condemn a nation outside of the WA. That being said, Jakker is an evil and destructive nation that will only do more harm in the future. If we condemn him now, he may cease his ways.
Elias Thaddeus Greyjoy, WA Ambassador of SkyDip
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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.

Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.

Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Velika Zeta
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Postby Velika Zeta » Tue May 21, 2013 10:35 am

For 100%


Sometimes I wish we could just launch the nuclear arsenal... too bad you namby pamby pacifistic nations in the WA frown upon that.

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Slavia
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Postby Slavia » Tue May 21, 2013 12:13 pm

I don't think Jakker is in in the WA, so why should we bother with him?

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The Black Hat Guy
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Black Hat Guy » Tue May 21, 2013 1:01 pm

Slavia wrote:I don't think Jakker is in in the WA, so why should we bother with him?


Because he's committed atrocious actions on an international scale? Condemn Emporia failed because Emporia wasn't a member of the WA, and the main argument of the condemnation was that Emporia had broken WA rules and used biological weapons. What Emporia did was bad, yes, but not such atrocious international actions that merit a condemnation.

Jakker, on the other hand, has lead and participated in multiple invasions upon regions that were completely neutral in the raider/defender game and had done nothing to provoke such an action. He has displaced many nations in doing so, with no reasonable justification behind his actions. Those are the kind of atrocious actions that merit a condemnation. The fact that Jakker is not a member of the WA is irrelevant. He is very clearly committed atrocious acts that have negatively impacted many nations, and as such he should be condemned.

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SkyDip
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Postby SkyDip » Tue May 21, 2013 1:42 pm

More importantly, as was stated above, WA membership is not necessary to be Condemned.
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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.

Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.

Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Slorch
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Postby Slorch » Tue May 21, 2013 2:50 pm

Am I the only one to see that he is NOT in the WA ? anyway AGAINST
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SkyDip
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Postby SkyDip » Tue May 21, 2013 2:53 pm

Slorch wrote:Am I the only one to see that he is NOT in the WA ? anyway AGAINST

Holy Jesus do any of you people read the thread before posting? :p
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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.

Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.

Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Muscles Like This
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Founded: May 15, 2013
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Postby Muscles Like This » Tue May 21, 2013 3:35 pm

Condemn him for being a dogfucker.

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Republic of South Carolina
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Postby Republic of South Carolina » Tue May 21, 2013 4:35 pm

Against, just, against.. Not going into a rant. :palm:
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B Wolf
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Ex-Nation

Postby B Wolf » Tue May 21, 2013 4:52 pm

Muscles Like This wrote:Condemn him for being a dogfucker.


Pipe that platypus boy, your ass is gonna get jakked up talking that mess. ;)

Anyway, I'm glad this is now [AT VOTE] :bow:
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Frisbeeteria
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Tue May 21, 2013 5:16 pm

Muscles Like This wrote:Condemn him for being a dogfucker.

*** Warn you for being a flamer. ***

I don't care what your relationship is with Jakker, we don't do personal attacks in this game.

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Idantir
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Postby Idantir » Tue May 21, 2013 6:10 pm

If you're referring to the delegate of Furry Federation, his name is Tinis, not Tinnis.

That is all for now.

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Singpu
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Ex-Nation

Postby Singpu » Tue May 21, 2013 6:11 pm

You can agree that Capitalist paradise says Condemn him!

He raided our older self long ago, and needs to pay. Capitalist Paradise as a whole wants this passed.
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Miatin
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My Opinion on the vote.

Postby Miatin » Tue May 21, 2013 7:40 pm

I never felt for proud of my nation in this game then when I clicked that "Vote For" button.

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TitanShadow12
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Postby TitanShadow12 » Tue May 21, 2013 9:35 pm

Yep. According to this, the guy's a meanie.
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Nexum
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Postby Nexum » Tue May 21, 2013 11:33 pm

The Congress of Nexum releases this message:

We recognize the concerns of the international community about the alleged international gangster Jakker. However, upon closer investigation, we have found that the music of this nation is particularly groovy and have instructed our ambassador to vote against this resolution. Surely, such a condemnation is merely a prelude to armed attacks against Jakker, which would disrupt this nation's otherworldly beats. We also see no evidence that Jakker has led any armed attacks against neighbors in recent times, nor care. Thus, we urge all nation states to vote NO to this resolution in the name of international record sales.
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Slavia
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Postby Slavia » Wed May 22, 2013 12:59 am

The Black Hat Guy wrote:
Slavia wrote:I don't think Jakker is in in the WA, so why should we bother with him?


Because he's committed atrocious actions on an international scale? Condemn Emporia failed because Emporia wasn't a member of the WA, and the main argument of the condemnation was that Emporia had broken WA rules and used biological weapons. What Emporia did was bad, yes, but not such atrocious international actions that merit a condemnation.

Jakker, on the other hand, has lead and participated in multiple invasions upon regions that were completely neutral in the raider/defender game and had done nothing to provoke such an action. He has displaced many nations in doing so, with no reasonable justification behind his actions. Those are the kind of atrocious actions that merit a condemnation. The fact that Jakker is not a member of the WA is irrelevant. He is very clearly committed atrocious acts that have negatively impacted many nations, and as such he should be condemned.
So instead of organizing a resistence, you use the WA?

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Nicktopia (Ancient)
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Founded: May 21, 2013
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Condemn Jakker

Postby Nicktopia (Ancient) » Wed May 22, 2013 5:14 am

"This man has gone out of control!!! He could be going for the East Pacific next, my region; or the West Pacific, my ally's region. He needs to be stopped. I will do whatever I can to stop him and inform my ally. I will help stop this maniac."

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Nicktopia (Ancient)
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Condemn Jakker

Postby Nicktopia (Ancient) » Wed May 22, 2013 5:28 am

"I have proceeded to find out that he is hiding his country so no one can telegram him. He is posing a threat against our world."

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Solorni
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Ex-Nation

Postby Solorni » Wed May 22, 2013 6:07 am

As Balders WAs have voted to vote for this, I have voted for it as well.
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