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by Otira
Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:14 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Palestinian police vow crackdown on LGBT events
Replies: 219
Views: 2873

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Loegria wrote:Lol. I’d love to see the faces of the gaggle of cockwombles at every Israel/Palestine event with their ‘LGBTQs for Palestine’ banners. Turkeys voting for Christmas.


You mean like the #LGBTsForTrump crowd?


Do those exist?
by Otira
Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:03 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Palestinian police vow crackdown on LGBT events
Replies: 219
Views: 2873

Ors Might wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:I wanted to preemptively nip that in the bud before it was brought up.

Instead of discussing the topic?

It was a tactical derail.
by Otira
Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:50 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Palestinian police vow crackdown on LGBT events
Replies: 219
Views: 2873

GLDF wrote:Funny how your opinions on LGBT people tend to be based on how you can attack the Muslims/libs/ethnic minorities/ etc. with accusations of homophobia or pedophilia.

Whom are you quoting?
by Otira
Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:33 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Palestinian police vow crackdown on LGBT events
Replies: 219
Views: 2873

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Truly sad they did that. LGBT people should be allowed to manifest.

One might say it's their destiny.
by Otira
Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:44 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Fascist White Supremacist Rally in Portland Thwarted
Replies: 1092
Views: 11660

I love how almost none of the right-wingers on NS are of the basic bitch normie conservative George Bush/Mitt Romney variety. Bush seems to have completely discredited that type of conservatism for ever in the eyes of Americans. Nah, it still has a bunch of followers with boomers and some gen x typ...
by Otira
Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:32 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Fascist White Supremacist Rally in Portland Thwarted
Replies: 1092
Views: 11660

Trollgaard wrote:Watched some videos on the rally today- its all antifa, AGAIN starting shit.

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by Otira
Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:31 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Fascist White Supremacist Rally in Portland Thwarted
Replies: 1092
Views: 11660

And are the proud boys even far right? There pretty normal conservatives. Free speech, flags, and Christians for the most part. FAR RIGHT OMG. Get a grip. Well they're racist, except they let all races in. And they're Nazis, but they're also pro-Israel and have chapters in Israel. But they definite...
by Otira
Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:22 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Fascist White Supremacist Rally in Portland Thwarted
Replies: 1092
Views: 11660

The world was not majority white when you were born. Take a chill pill. As a percentage of world population, the world was Whiter in 1989 than it is in 2019. What causes me concern is that the projections show no signs of stopping the trend of decline, I see no bottom to it unless its 0% or close t...
by Otira
Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:58 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Fascist White Supremacist Rally in Portland Thwarted
Replies: 1092
Views: 11660

Page wrote:2) The Proud Boys are nazi thugs.

They're weird Nazis too, having membership in Israel and their founder being a Zionist.

https://proudboysusa.com/chapters/asia/israel/
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:10 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

No worries, I don't take offense from arguments made out of ignorance. Anyone who equates criticism of Israel to meaning I dislike it is someone with such a great strawman they must be filming a new Wizard of Oz. Oh, so you're a Zionist too? Aren't you? Israel has a right to exist, and I have a loy...
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:08 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

Principle is what matters, and you showed me the quality of your own. Yeah, because you're ignoring context yet again. Russia is not an American ally. Israel is. Poland is. South Korea is. Jordan is. There's a categorical difference between protecting an ally and protecting an enemy. Y'all place to...
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:00 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

Fahran wrote:
Otira wrote:Thank you, says everything that needs be said.

Um... The entire response matters.

Why are we all pretending like suddenly cultural, historical, and geopolitical context don't matter?

Principle is what matters, and you showed me the quality of your own.
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:57 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

You're being extremely disingenuous. You didn't even respond to some of Vass's original replies to you. I can go right back and look at the conversation, and so can you. :eyebrow: No offense Y'all are pretending like it wasn't because y'all like her and dislike Israel. No worries, I don't take offe...
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:48 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

Fahran wrote:
Otira wrote:Out of curiosity, if a member of the US government called themselves the "Protector of Russia" would you suspect their loyalties? Points if you can respond with a "yes" or "no".

Yes.

Thank you, says everything that needs be said.
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:47 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

Has anybody said the former quote here unironically? I recall it as being one Omar said years ago and apologized for. And who are you quoting for the latter quote? Vass hasn't said any of this stuff in criticizing Israel. You're just dragging in nonsense to prop up your failing argument. Vass has d...
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:40 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

Not to be facetious, but Israel in particular makes themselves an easy target for those arguments, whether they're true or not is besides the point. I mean... I could make the same argument about a good many groups. It'd still be a bad and probably bigoted argument, especially if phrased in the way...
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:35 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

Are you seriously asking me that? Let's not spam. I assumed they were and joined in with the same spirit. Plus I wouldn't accusing anyone of spamming for repeat a phrase once when you've repeated some buzzword phrases a half dozen times in this thread alone. I'm trying to be as civil as I can be, b...
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:26 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

What if I told you it's entirely possible for the Holocaust to be terrible, the Nazi's to be horrible, and the nation state of Israel to behave badly, all at the same time? Like, what kind of logic is this? "If you think genociding Jewish people is wrong, that means you can never criticize a J...
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:23 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

Scomagia wrote:
Otira wrote:Are you seriously accusing Vass like that?

Are you seriously asking that after what Vass implied about their "bias"?

Are you seriously asking me that?
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:21 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

Do you understand that the context matters here? "Israel is hypnotizing the world" is literally a recycled Antisemitic trope. "Zionists have dual loyalty" is literally a recycled Antisemitic trope. It's literally stuff far-right skinheads and Arab Anti-Semites say on a routine b...
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:18 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

Fahran wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Sounds more like you're looking for excuses to justify your own biases personally.

Do you think it's appropriate to use Antisemitic language? Because all I'm getting from this is that you do.

Are you seriously accusing Vass like that?
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:17 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Who's said anything about Jews being bad? The State of Israel =/= the Jewish people.

The state of Israel was created by and for the Jewish People. The State of Israel is supposed to represent the Jews as a State.

And yet not all Jews agree with it. Get used to that.
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:14 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:Sorry, is anyone else noticing a left wing hypocrisy here?
When it suits them, Jews are great and the holocaust was so bad and Nazis are all horrible etc etc
When it doesnt, just because Jews had the holocaust happen to them doesnt make this right etc etc


???
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:13 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

It looks consistent to me. It seems you just don't like it. It's not consistent at all. The same people would howl if racially insensitive language was used by Trump - and rightly so. It's not racially insensitive to criticize or be wary of corruption. Vass isn't criticizing the people involved bec...
by Otira
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:10 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Israel denies entry to Reps. Omar and Tlaib
Replies: 957
Views: 9040

But Vass's questions and comments are very valid. Criticism of Israel, including criticism of Israeli government influence in other governments, is not antisemitism. It's extremely disingenuous to claim it is. And Fahren can calm down and not treat Vass like anyone owes Jewish people or Israel beca...
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