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by Auralia
Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:27 pm
 
Forum: Factbooks and National Information
Topic: Your Nation's View on Gay Marriage and Homosexuals
Replies: 258
Views: 3761

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by Auralia
Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:57 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NOT Another Abortion Thread
Replies: 62
Views: 833

If, say, someone stole a kidney from you (and keep in mind that living with a fetus is not nearly as damaging or as serious) and transplanted it in their body, would you be allowed to kill them by taking it back? Do site how many times that happens in a given decade. Rather, they would be tried, li...
by Auralia
Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:54 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NOT Another Abortion Thread
Replies: 62
Views: 833

Fair point. The key issue for me is that if one doesn't value humans simply because they are human, one can pick any arbitrary criteria. Some of the more common ones seem reasonable, like sentience, consciousness or a functioning brain. But really, you can pick anything, even something horrible lik...
by Auralia
Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:44 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NOT Another Abortion Thread
Replies: 62
Views: 833

I think that the ability to make choices is a dangerous criteria for rights. Infants, who are considered human, can't really make choices either. Neither can someone in a coma, or with a significant mental disability. They meet a different criteria for rights. Namely, self-consciousness. Amongst ot...
by Auralia
Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:43 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NOT Another Abortion Thread
Replies: 62
Views: 833

I think it gives equal rights, not more rights...? A child who requires a kidney transplant or blood transfusion to live cannot legally compel a parent to give it to them, even if they will die otherwise. Outlawing abortion means that we are allowing unborn people to compel a woman to relinquish he...
by Auralia
Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:36 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NOT Another Abortion Thread
Replies: 62
Views: 833

Saint Jade IV wrote:permitting abortion gives foetuses more rights than actual born children and people.


I think it gives equal rights, not more rights...?
by Auralia
Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:35 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NOT Another Abortion Thread
Replies: 62
Views: 833

You'll have to clarify that for me... It did not choose. Therefore, it is not a person, as it cannot make a choice, because it cannot think. If it cannot think, if it is not a self aware, self conscious being, I feel that it isn't deserving of the rights of a human being. I think that the ability t...
by Auralia
Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:26 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NOT Another Abortion Thread
Replies: 62
Views: 833

Ceannairceach wrote:And, to combat the "but it didn't choose to be there" argument before it arises, no, it didn't, and for that reason it doesn't have any rights to begin with, let alone the right to life.


You'll have to clarify that for me...
by Auralia
Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:24 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NOT Another Abortion Thread
Replies: 62
Views: 833

Your sort of argument, I can't really go against, because you simply have a different set of morals than I do. I don't value humans any more than I do animals - that is, both can be greatly valued for many different reasons, but not simply because they are alive. Fair point. The key issue for me is...
by Auralia
Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:17 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NOT Another Abortion Thread
Replies: 62
Views: 833

2. Many of those in favour of abortion argue that a child would, in many cases, be better off dead due to societal problems like poverty and crime. Others argue that it is ultimately the choice of the mother whether she wants to raise her child or not. Personally, I think both arguments become irre...
by Auralia
Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:11 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NOT Another Abortion Thread
Replies: 62
Views: 833

-Is there anything that would make you change your stance? Not much, unless someone can demonstrate that an embryo is living (besides the classic, "science liez!") http://www.amazon.com/Developing-Human-Clinically-Oriented-Embryology/dp/0721694128/ref=pd_vtp_b_3 This is a reputable medica...
by Auralia
Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:06 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NOT Another Abortion Thread
Replies: 62
Views: 833

-Is there anything that would make you change your stance? If DEFINITIVE, CLEAR-CUT, IRREFUTABLE evidence came out that a fetus counted as a person in the same way that an adult woman does. How should that matter? Its still abusing her body without her permission. Could you clarify your point? I'm ...
by Auralia
Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:05 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NOT Another Abortion Thread
Replies: 62
Views: 833

I wouldn't call myself brainwashed; I've actually given abortion a great deal of thought. So you have in no way been influenced to believe that fetuses are somehow more important than the mother? A fetus is not more important than the mother, just as I'm not more important than you. However, we don...
by Auralia
Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:59 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NOT Another Abortion Thread
Replies: 62
Views: 833

Brainwashing/conditioning on one end I wouldn't call myself brainwashed; I've actually given abortion a great deal of thought. It seems to me that the debate ultimately comes down to whether a fetus should be considered a human person. Biologically, I think that's impossible to deny: 1) A fetus is ...
by Auralia
Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:53 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NOT Another Abortion Thread
Replies: 62
Views: 833

1. I believe that a fetus is a human being, and that all human beings have inherent value, regardless of stage of development. Thus, I am opposed to abortion, as well as a number of practices that harm the sanctity of life - capital punishment, euthanasia, eugenics, etc. 2. Many of those in favour o...
by Auralia
Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:52 am
 
Forum: WA Archives
Topic: [DEFEATED] Repeal "Internet Net Neutrality Act"
Replies: 94
Views: 10642

And what happens when the ISP's don't have any competition? Limited bandwidth is nothing more than a flimsy excuse for these companies to bleed more money out of the public. Have you ever taken a look at the quarterly earnings reports from ISPs? Most of their money is made from services other than ...
by Auralia
Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:07 pm
 
Forum: WA Archives
Topic: [DEFEATED] Repeal "Internet Net Neutrality Act"
Replies: 94
Views: 10642

Though I understand your concern and that or your corporate benefactors, Mr. Ambassador, the Solarian Isles cannot support this proposal. Now, it is true that that the Solarian Isles have traditionally been very business-friendly, the true value of the internet simply cannot be measured in mere Sol...
by Auralia
Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:27 pm
 
Forum: WA Archives
Topic: [DEFEATED] Repeal "Internet Net Neutrality Act"
Replies: 94
Views: 10642

[DEFEATED] Repeal "Internet Net Neutrality Act"

Repeal "Internet Net Neutrality Act" Category: Repeal Affirming the legitimate practice of varying the quality of consumer goods and services with the price paid, also known as "tiered service", which fosters competition, maximizes consumer choice, and improves the overall quali...
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