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by Separatist Peoples
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:07 pm
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [DRAFT] Repeal "Rights and Duties..."
Replies: 115
Views: 4484

OOC: Dispute over a legal interpretation generally leads to a Challenge. It strikes me that making a challenge would be more productive than derailing the drafting process when its clear the author and the opposing theory are at loggerheads. Legality discussions in drafting threads are fine, but wh...
by Separatist Peoples
Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:36 pm
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [DRAFT] Repeal "Rights and Duties..."
Replies: 115
Views: 4484

OOC: Dispute over a legal interpretation generally leads to a Challenge. It strikes me that making a challenge would be more productive than derailing the drafting process when its clear the author and the opposing theory are at loggerheads. Legality discussions in drafting threads are fine, but whe...
by Separatist Peoples
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:28 am
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [Replacement Draft] Rights and Duties of Member States
Replies: 51
Views: 1642

OOC: requiring adherence to the spirit of the law ICly doesn't force roleplay any more than requiring adherence to the letter of the law does. That clause cannot be read in a good faith way to ignore the letter of the law. OOC: Good faith does not exist without GA#2 :p OOC: Thus the replacement...
by Separatist Peoples
Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:17 am
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [Replacement Draft] Rights and Duties of Member States
Replies: 51
Views: 1642

OOC: Should finally have time this weekend for NS, but I notice this requires adherence to spirit of the law, not the letter of the law. Swinging from one extreme to the other. Plus you still won't be able to curb creative compliance, because you can't force roleplay. OOC: requiring adherence to th...
by Separatist Peoples
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:29 am
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [DRAFT] Repeal "Rights and Duties..."
Replies: 115
Views: 4484

(OOC; That interpretation very much differs from precedent, which has previously been far more broad and prohibited the WA from engaging with any police or military action in the ways described.) According to mod precedent. I can't seem to find any rulings where GenSec has given us their interpreta...
by Separatist Peoples
Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:32 pm
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [Draft] Rape Shield Act
Replies: 111
Views: 3866

Change to "more or less likely." "This argument is fairly sound, and while I don't think that the implication bears out to actual application, it isn't really a problem to make the alteration." What if the evidence would be unfairly prejudicial to the accused? The WA should not ...
by Separatist Peoples
Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:43 am
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [Replacement Draft] Rights and Duties of Member States
Replies: 51
Views: 1642

(OOC: How would further legislation on what constitutes a humanitarian crisis worthy of intervention actually work? It seems as though any proposal which attempts to limit what can be done by this one would be contradiction or house of cards.) OOC: So, I haven't even looked at this in...coming clos...
by Separatist Peoples
Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:22 am
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [DRAFT] Repeal "Rights and Duties..."
Replies: 115
Views: 4484

Imperium Anglorum wrote:I have here a diamond. And 10 minutes later... resurrect.

OOC: I didn't realize you were a 7th level Cleric
by Separatist Peoples
Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:58 pm
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [Draft] Prevention of Forced Sterilisation
Replies: 16
Views: 575

"It is, ambassador. Sterilized rapists can still rape. With their penises, too. Sterilization doesn't prevent sex or rape, it prevents conception. It is a poor, poor punishment." If it prevents a rape victim from carrying a rapists child, it is worth it. "That has absolutely no deter...
by Separatist Peoples
Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:41 pm
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [Draft] Prevention of Forced Sterilisation
Replies: 16
Views: 575

Adamant that forced sterilisation as a punishment for sexual offenders is both purposeless and immoral, given the severe and long-term depression and anxiety it often causes; Given how rapists ruin lives and destroy families, their “anxiety” or “depression” is very low on the scale of concern. It i...
by Separatist Peoples
Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:32 pm
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [DRAFT] Prohibiting Forced Sterilization
Replies: 14
Views: 731

"Other than the, frankly concerning, issue of states forcing a surgical procedure on somebody as a form of punishment as a matter of course, sterilization is not, in fact, an effective rape deterrent. Sterilization alone is merely an inability to reproduce, and not comparable to chemical castra...
by Separatist Peoples
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:49 am
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [Draft] Rape Shield Act
Replies: 111
Views: 3866

“Ambassador, bad character evidence is not forced upon member states to legalise. It is prohibited for them to admit evidence regarding the victim’s past sexual behaviours in most cases, but it is not mandated for them to accept the evidence in the case that it is allowed.” "I was referring to...
by Separatist Peoples
Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:22 pm
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [AT VOTE] Ban on Sterilisation of Minors etc
Replies: 109
Views: 2519

No, I am not going to waste my time finding them for you. Didn't ask you to, but thanks for considering it. You're capable of research. That I am. Thanks for pointing that out. No, I'm not trying to conceal anything. Never accused you of hiding anything. Since the genie is out of the bottle on that...
by Separatist Peoples
Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:09 pm
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [AT VOTE] Ban on Sterilisation of Minors etc
Replies: 109
Views: 2519

OOC: Magical enforcement is entirely unrealistic from an IC perspective. It literally doesn't exist anywhere irl, and it takes a great deal of challenge out of writing to ignore enforcement mechanisms. Before the creation of the Compliance Commission,pretty much no resolution had any sort of enforc...
by Separatist Peoples
Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:31 am
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [AT VOTE] Ban on Sterilisation of Minors etc
Replies: 109
Views: 2519

It's not "magical compliance", it's the way the game works. The resolution passes, and if you are member nation, your stats change. Henceforth you are in compliance. Is it really that hard to comprehend this? OOC: That's what I keep saying!!!!!! But IA & co. argue that that's not how ...
by Separatist Peoples
Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:47 pm
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [AT VOTE] Ban on Sterilisation of Minors etc
Replies: 109
Views: 2519

The rest of this discussion about Metagaming belongs in a Metagaming Rule discussion thread or in Technical, but not in a draft. Fine then. Is mentioning delegates in any way shape of form metagaming or not? It is relevant to the legality of this draft. And I.A. I do apologize for jacking the threa...
by Separatist Peoples
Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:31 pm
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [AT VOTE] Ban on Sterilisation of Minors etc
Replies: 109
Views: 2519

I have far better things to do with my time, than bash my head off of an impervious brick wall thanks. You guys have it in your power to fix things yourselves. Whether you choose to do it or not is up to you. Cool. Then we never need to get into the issue of whether GenSec is the worst thing ever o...
by Separatist Peoples
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:09 am
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [AT VOTE] Ban on Sterilisation of Minors etc
Replies: 109
Views: 2519

My, my my. Is it really that fulfilling playing God? One person has their proposal declared illegal on what is obviously a rule that was pulled out of thin air, yet someone else gets away with it? I much prefer the old system, where the mods were in charge of this. They made some pretty pitiful dec...
by Separatist Peoples
Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:58 am
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [DEFEATED] Ban on Forced Sterilisation
Replies: 199
Views: 5858

“I would love for reproductive rights to being universally agreed upon within the WA. Luckily, this has already partially happened with the apssing fo strong legislation. It does seem, however, that the member states draw the line at banning sterilisation of people. Why this has happened is a myste...
by Separatist Peoples
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:45 am
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [DEFEATED] Ban on Forced Sterilisation
Replies: 199
Views: 5858

“It may be that what you are doing is legal, but that does not make it right. I would far rather live in a nation that has a slightly less efficient health and welfare system than live in one that practices systematic ‘technically not genocide but still uncomfortably close.’” "Ambassador, that...
by Separatist Peoples
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:48 am
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [DEFEATED] Ban on Forced Sterilisation
Replies: 199
Views: 5858

"Not under WA law, which defines genocide as :"any act committed, or measure enacted, with the intent to destroy, in whole or partially, an identifiable group of persons on the basis of belief, ethnicity, nationality, culture, or a perceived innate characteristic, which for the purposes o...
by Separatist Peoples
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:39 am
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [DEFEATED] Ban on Forced Sterilisation
Replies: 199
Views: 5858

"Prohibits: The sterilisation of any individual without their informed consent, unless a parent or guardian is legally able to and does consent on their behalf;" Do you realize the way that this is worded it allows the parent or guardian to sterilize their child? Is it your intention to a...
by Separatist Peoples
Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:12 am
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [Draft] Rape Shield Act
Replies: 111
Views: 3866

Unless and until this legislation improves the protections of the accused from false allegations, the Most Serene Republic is curious how any international body can consider itself civilized by legitimizing a return to witch trial justice. Where is the time honored reinforcement of innocent until P...
by Separatist Peoples
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:18 pm
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [Draft] Rape Shield Act
Replies: 111
Views: 3866

Kenmoria wrote:“Could the definition of relevancy be expanded to include ‘more or less likely’, so evidence that disproves the accusation is also considered relevant.”

"Evidence that disproves the accusation is evidence that makes a fact more likely: that the accusation is false."
by Separatist Peoples
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:25 pm
 
Forum: General Assembly
Topic: [Draft] Rape Shield Act
Replies: 111
Views: 3866

"Looking over old files, soliciting responses."
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