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by Andromeda Islands
Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:12 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: What made you pro-life/pro-choice? (read the OP first)
Replies: 6
Views: 265

Yeah this is gonna get locked. Threads made in the general sub-forum are supposed to be discussion threads. The rules say so. Before it gets locked, I want to say one thing. I don't like the term "pro-life" vis a vis abortion. I am pro life when it comes to war. I am, like Albert Einstein...
by Andromeda Islands
Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:45 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

Can you accept that killing another human being, except with due process under the law, is wholly and totally immoral, regardless of whether or not the ultimate outcome of them being born is not good, and regardless of whether you are a Christian or not? Can you accept that letting another person k...
by Andromeda Islands
Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:44 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: How do you see our collective moral and ethical cup? Half fu
Replies: 49
Views: 927

Valentine Z DL- Buddhism, like Gnostic Christians, believe in evolving their religion and putting man above God. The right thing to do that the idol worshipers cannot do and that is why their creeds are stagnating. Regards DL While I appreciate the comment, I, for the record, just want to state tha...
by Andromeda Islands
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:51 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: How do you see our collective moral and ethical cup? Half fu
Replies: 49
Views: 927

It's really simple. Ethics is common sense. It doesn't require religion. I do think that meditation is a good practice, but there isn't necessarily anything "spiritual" about meditation because an atheist can meditate. I wouldn't go so far that "religion" is bad per se, but (at ...
by Andromeda Islands
Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:59 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Are we all pathetic as we make all such sites like the Tower
Replies: 92
Views: 1798

A Wise Man once said nothing. Meditation works for many people. Great minds discuss. Fools fight. "Deep down people are terrified of being wrong"? Why is that? Ego. The Buddhist concept of the no self is not some esoteric gobbledegook. The exoteric idea of selflessness (as contrasted with ...
by Andromeda Islands
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:20 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

Maybe it's time for me to leave this thread, it is getting extremely tedious, for a lot of reasons, which I can't get into in detail, but which are somewhat self-evident. If the direction of this thread changes in a way to my liking, I may or may not come back. I have no power over any thread I crea...
by Andromeda Islands
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:22 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

One can use the word 'they,' as can be generally polite when referring or talking about someone you don't the gender (or sex, or whichever one is the proper one) of. True, or if one has one daughter named Sue and only a son named Tim and since you are obliged to keep what they did confidential. &qu...
by Andromeda Islands
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:08 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

Tarsonis, That you for taking the time in your responses. It would take me a very long time to respond point by point, but I will take one point about the gender of "God". When we don't know the gender of a fetus we call "it" an "it". That doesn't indicate that the fet...
by Andromeda Islands
Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:41 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

Tarsonis, That you for taking the time in your responses. It would take me a very long time to respond point by point, but I will take one point about the gender of "God". When we don't know the gender of a fetus we call "it" an "it". That doesn't indicate that the fetu...
by Andromeda Islands
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:10 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

Of course, the terms "god" and "goddess" are problematic in the sense that not all theists and sheists have the same concepts of what these words mean. In a figurative sense every person creates the deity in an existential way. You can call me a "sheist" if you want (as...
by Andromeda Islands
Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:40 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

One man's exclusivity is another mans intolerance. Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Can I just mention all the delicious innuendoes I can make with this? I am not sure where you are going with this, but John CH. 14 standing...
by Andromeda Islands
Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:57 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

There is nothing "just" about eternal punishment for finite sin. What purpose would there be for such punishment? If someone is being good only from fear, they are being good for the wrong reason. Why would an all wise, all loving creator create beings that are totally evil, in the first p...
by Andromeda Islands
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:33 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church."

http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/paine/aor/aor03.htm
by Andromeda Islands
Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:11 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

When I say "spirituality isn't natural" the point is that the spiritual realm (if it exists) is different from the natural realm and if the two are separate, how would there be evidence for the spiritual realm in the natural realm? To continue with the logic, if one realm of existence is ...
by Andromeda Islands
Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:06 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

Yes, for example, extraterrestrial life, if there is no evidence for it, why should I believe in it? There is historical evidence for Christ. Well, I know that Christians and Jews exist, is that evidence that their religions (which don't agree in some (many?) ways), are true? By the same token, if ...
by Andromeda Islands
Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:54 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

When I say "spirituality isn't natural" the point is that the spiritual realm (if it exists) is different from the natural realm and if the two are separate, how would there be evidence for the spiritual realm in the natural realm?
by Andromeda Islands
Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:51 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

Is their scientific evidence for anything spiritual? Science doesn't have all the answers, but it is based on empirical evidence, can you say the same thing about religion? To put it more bluntly spirituality isn't natural. Spirituality, in reference to human attraction to the spiritual, is natural...
by Andromeda Islands
Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:48 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

Many people would regard believing in things that one can not understand as superstition. I agree that such a belief is speculative, and subjective as well. Although, as I pointed out earlier, a belief in religion, per se, is not necessary. There is much in the universe that we do not, or cannot, u...
by Andromeda Islands
Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:43 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

Many people would regard believing in things that one can not understand as superstition. I agree that such a belief is speculative, and subjective as well. Although, as I pointed out earlier, a belief in religion, per se, is not necessary. We don't understand genetics all to well. We know what cer...
by Andromeda Islands
Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:27 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

If a mystery, unknowable and unfathomable as scriptures indicate, then nothing can be known of God, let alone that he has three heads. Anything said of God becomes speculative nonsense. Regards DL Are you suggesting that a being of infinite wisdom and power is easily knowable? God has properties th...
by Andromeda Islands
Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:08 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

There's also this: https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2018/05/16/the-elusive-phenomenon-of-churches-without-god Also in the US are a number of organizations like the Freedom from religion group (Ron Reagan) The American Humanists, and, of course https://www.atheists.org (392,000 members and supporters)
by Andromeda Islands
Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:33 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

PART TWO OF TWO

183. Not to commit any sin, to do good, and to purify one's mind, that is the teaching of (all) the Awakened.

from:
CHAPTER XIV.
THE BUDDHA (THE AWAKENED).


edit: from The Dhammapada
by Andromeda Islands
Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:29 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

(I didn't quote your response in its entirety because that isn't necessary, because you did answer all my questions; I can get back to the trinity, at a later time, but I could tell you why it is illogical, but I don't want to get into that yet, because I tend to go in endless circles in debating wi...
by Andromeda Islands
Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:29 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

If you take everything in the Bible literally, how do you reconcile the contradictions? If you don't everything in the Bible literally, how is one to determine what is literal and what is not? As far as "cherry picking" goes everything in the Bible out of context, unless one were to read t...
by Andromeda Islands
Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:28 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Christian Discussion Thread X: Originally there were 15
Replies: 5168
Views: 77619

This idea of a divine spark seems similar, if not identical to what Friends (so called Quakers) believe. Those who have opposed orthodoxy do have diverse views but they have one thing in common, they have usually been seen as heretical (rather than heterodoxical) by many Christians in the past and p...
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