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by Katganistan
Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:01 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Measles Outbreak at 2nd Highest Level in 25 Years
Replies: 196
Views: 2766

Because unfortunately the people in power have given them a voice. Trump has questioned the validity of vaccines on multiple occasions, former NJ governor Chris Christie is openly anti-vaxx. A lot of celebrities are also anti-vaxx or have questioned the validity of vaccines When people begin to bel...
by Katganistan
Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:07 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

A bruise, however, is something that body corrects on its own and thus treatment is merely aiding that process. Abortions are not natural. The body has no mechanism for performing one. About 50% of all pregnancies ends in a natural abortion. The body certainly is quite able. Well, since it is natur...
by Katganistan
Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:05 pm
 
Forum: Moderation
Topic: [Q] Luna Amore re-modded?
Replies: 25
Views: 1320

The blAAtschApen wrote:When the flames get too high, mod intervention is nigh, that's amore
When issues seem to shine, because they were edited just fine, that's amore
:clap:
by Katganistan
Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:58 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: NYC declares public health emergency thanks to anti vaxxers
Replies: 246
Views: 3125

Okay after thinking of it mandatory vaccines may be taking things to far. I think a much better solution would have to be simply trying to fight the misinformation that vaccines are harmful. You knowing deplatofrming them and all that jazz. Yeah, it's not working. Which is why NYC apparently is not...
by Katganistan
Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:17 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

So? Legal abortions are restricted at the 24 week mark anyway. So everything else has failed, and now you are resorting to appeals to emotion? :eyebrow: "everything else has failed" Really? How about the fact that it is child murder, It's not. Murder is illegal killing. Where abortion is ...
by Katganistan
Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:02 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

The Republic of Fore wrote: I also wish we could focus on more important topics.

*shrug* No one's forced you to post here.
by Katganistan
Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:55 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

That is if you consider the fetus not a person. And then again if we consider the fetus a person, couldn’t one then make the argument that basic human desire if you took humans down to the most basic level is to live, and therefore it is easily assume that the fetus wishes to live in the womb and k...
by Katganistan
Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:00 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

Meanwhile in South Korea abortion bans have been declared unconstitutional specifically because they infringe on a woman's right to choose. Yes, it seems most countries are removing the bans on abortion. It's only the land of the free and the home of the brave and mostly, incredibly impoverished/th...
by Katganistan
Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:53 pm
 
Forum: Moderation
Topic: Thread Ownership [Halp]
Replies: 5
Views: 497

You're going to have to link to them in the new threads; we don't change thread ownership as far as I've ever seen unless it's a community resource.
by Katganistan
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:58 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

Religion does not define the laws of the United States. Abortion has been legal FAR longer than it was proscribed, throughout world history . So if we're supposed to think that because for maybe a hundred or so years people said oh it's icky that trumps pretty much human society, sorry. That dog wo...
by Katganistan
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:54 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

Because some posters want to ignore this point I'll state it again. In order to claim that abortion is murder than you have to demonstrate why we should view a fetus as a PERSON. Even then the work of a pro-lifer isn't done. No you can't, and shouldn't. But I think we can agree that not giving an o...
by Katganistan
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:18 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

You asked what defines a person. I offered you an answer. Take it or leave it. The point of this is to argue abortion and its morality and recognizing legal flaws is a main party of many arguments, so I believe that that is a legal flaw and it should be up to debate on when life begins if we are ar...
by Katganistan
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:16 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

Oxes Republic wrote:Again did you ignore my argument that life begins at conception or...

No, you ignored the legal definition of person. Repeatedly.

And you assert it begins at conception. You haven't proved it.
by Katganistan
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:15 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

I am pro-choice but also want to see the number of abortions decrease through smart family planning and fixing the socioeconomic system that forces many couples from holding off on families. Yes, this would be the best plan. Unfortunately, there is a lot of screaming about welfare leeches and still...
by Katganistan
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:10 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

My point I’m trying to make is that, if the child is alive and having a greater strain on the women’s life and came from her body and lives in her house, does that make that child property? And what difference does it make from a child in the womb sucking away a woman’s potential. Does this mean th...
by Katganistan
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:02 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

I dare you to think about it this way. Pretend it’s a mother and a five year old disabled child. Her child provides the same medical and financial strain pregnancy would, treatments cost more than pregnancy, and is forcing her out of her career. Does this mother have the right to kill this strain o...
by Katganistan
Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:33 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

[citation needed] I mean it's pretty blatant considering they have pretty much no vocal advocation for a major overhaul to the disasterous foster care system to facilitate adequate care for the child while its waiting to be adopted, and they are pretty silent as well when it comes to providing some...
by Katganistan
Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:19 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

George Carlin said it best.

[edit]Not the portion I was looking for.
by Katganistan
Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:08 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

... ...that... really doesn't answer what I said. Did you read what I wrote? :eyebrow: Yes there are two options for a unwanted pregnancy, peranting or adoption. Only if rape, incest, or certain death is involved Abortion can happen. Fortunately for the rest of civilized society, your ultimatum is ...
by Katganistan
Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:04 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

Can't we all agree that unless the mother or child is in certain danger of death, Abortion is morally wrong. Nope. So do you believe that person X who needs a kidney has a right to person Y's kidney? Since choice is apparently out of the question? No an organ required to live is different from a li...
by Katganistan
Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:58 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

I don’t entirely disagree with the general principle but you might find the comparison between pregnancy and rape to be one that turns far more people away from your ideas than the opposite. The important difference between a fetus and a rapist is that the fetus is unaware. Innocent. A potential ne...
by Katganistan
Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:52 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

...what? Midlle school science. The fetus is not a part of the mother's body. It is a completely seperate organism. If so, then she DEFINITELY has every right to have it removed. Alas, it is not "completely separate" when it draws nutrients from her bloodstream and uses her kidneys to rem...
by Katganistan
Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:44 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

I've leaned pro-choice for a long time, but BS like women openly sobbing when it's ruled that their child having a heartbeat means they can't kill it? That pushes me in the other direction. Plus, there are far too many double standards. Men have no opportunity to renounce fatherhood, even legally, ...
by Katganistan
Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:18 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

How much do you think someone forced to remain pregnant will love and adore their offspring? Probably a lot. Biology is pretty determinative in this regard, even if it’s not 100%. Principally not arguing as to the core topic, but the notion that parents of unwanted children just don’t love and ador...
by Katganistan
Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:11 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: [Abortion Thread] (NEW POLL) A conflict of rights. (READ OP)
Replies: 4550
Views: 61139

Genivaria wrote:Kat please don't dropping all the mics! Those are expensive!


Don't I know it. We're looking into what it would cost to get a new sound system for my school.
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