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by Diopolis
Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:12 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Supreme Court rules East Oklahoma still a Indian Reservation
Replies: 8
Views: 98

We're not exactly sure. It does mean, at the very least, that there's jurisdiction issues with law enforcement. Everything else is up in the air, and it could turn into a giant clusterfuck really easily. Depends on whether the government of Oklahoma and the tribes involved try to deal with each oth...
by Diopolis
Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:01 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Supreme Court rules East Oklahoma still a Indian Reservation
Replies: 8
Views: 98

So…what does this mean, exactly? We're not exactly sure. It does mean, at the very least, that there's jurisdiction issues with law enforcement. Everything else is up in the air, and it could turn into a giant clusterfuck really easily. Depends on whether the government of Oklahoma and the tribes i...
by Diopolis
Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:19 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: How to save socialism in the US (and other western countries
Replies: 429
Views: 5122

"I'm hungry. Let's get mammoth." "NOT IF I DON'T GET PAID FIRST LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!" There are other incentives besides money... Exactly, we've been hunter-gatherers for far longer than the existence of civilization, and we didn't have hierarchies then. People did what they could a...
by Diopolis
Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:39 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: What Would It Take for You to Vote for Biden?
Replies: 3829
Views: 46646

This is also not true. As a rule, although there are of course exceptions: The left wants a government big enough to make life fair for the poor and disadvantaged, and the right wants a government big enough to make life fair for the rich and privileged. This is of course false. The left wants a go...
by Diopolis
Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:58 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: How to save socialism in the US (and other western countries
Replies: 429
Views: 5122

Socialism doesn’t work because when the government is paying you then there is no incentive to work. Also all the companies will move because they are being taxed heavily and nobody is working. I don’t understand how people don’t get this Authoritarian socialism in eastern Europe generally did not ...
by Diopolis
Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:11 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: How to save socialism in the US (and other western countries
Replies: 429
Views: 5122

Venezuela is a pretty good example of someone trying to be socialist and failing. Ah yes, the "WhY DoN't YoU Go AnD LiVe In VeNeZuElA?!" fallacy. No, it is not. Venezuela tried adding some socialist policies into a previously capitalist economy. These policies were dismal failures that re...
by Diopolis
Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:33 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Gun Control 2020 (IV) - A Gun for Me and A Gun for Thee...
Replies: 5130
Views: 84394

The NRA is nothing but a front group for arms manufacturers, arms dealers, far-right philosophies, and bigotry. If people want to join a real gun rights group, that actual care about people and won't ignore the problem of gun violence or police violence, I suggest people join the Socialist Rifle As...
by Diopolis
Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:28 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: How to save socialism in the US (and other western countries
Replies: 429
Views: 5122

I suppose I misunderstood you, I equated your reference to anarcho-communism to support for the movement. My mistake. Philosophically speaking, I can really empathize with and understand the ideals and viewpoints of anarcho-communists and libertarian socialists. But, I suppose, I've become somethin...
by Diopolis
Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:22 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: How to save socialism in the US (and other western countries
Replies: 429
Views: 5122

Only they haven't lived under communism or socialism unless they're from the Zapatista or part of the Rojava territories, or if they're somehow old enough to remember CNT-FAI or the Paris Commune, all of which were functional. So you're telling me that the USSR, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela are...
by Diopolis
Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:06 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: How to save socialism in the US (and other western countries
Replies: 429
Views: 5122

Can we focus on how to preserve and grow socialist and leftist movements and have that debate and discussion? I feel the debate over if gun control is authoritarian or libertarian, is beginning to derail the topic at hand, and should be left in a gun debate thread or we should make a new thread abo...
by Diopolis
Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:44 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Food Discussion Thread I
Replies: 1286
Views: 11285

Farnhamia wrote:
La xinga wrote:I know I like it!

Me, too. Peanut butter and a nice ripe banana is good, too. On toast.

With honey...
by Diopolis
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:56 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Somerville, Mass to recognize polyamorous partnerships
Replies: 272
Views: 3778

not rly :) Yes really. You're in the same slippery slope that people who claim society is going to die because of LGBT people are allowed to exist are. Tradcons have been right about the stops on the slippery slope more often than not up til now. Remind me again what gay "marriage" was su...
by Diopolis
Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:35 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Somerville, Mass to recognize polyamorous partnerships
Replies: 272
Views: 3778

There are many well documented issues with polyamory. The legal system would have a conniption over the thought of a divorce involving a poly couple. That’s not to say that people should be barred from having more than two partners if they so wish just that it doesn’t cause what would effectively b...
by Diopolis
Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:38 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: How to save socialism in the US (and other western countries
Replies: 429
Views: 5122

I Couldnt Be Happier With Donald Trumps America. What about his handling of the pandemic? (also why do you capitalize everything?) Realtalk- The US has, by death rate, done decently well over the coronavirus pandemic(slightly better than most of western Europe, but far worse than the east/oceania, ...
by Diopolis
Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:01 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Somerville, Mass to recognize polyamorous partnerships
Replies: 272
Views: 3778

In which case the disagreement is over whether or not polyamory is harmless. Just as I'm sure there's disagreement over whether or not homosexuality, miscegenation, the existence of trans people and probably even what hand people use to write with is harmless. So rhetorical flourishes and arc of hi...
by Diopolis
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:52 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: How to save socialism in the US (and other western countries
Replies: 429
Views: 5122

KingFerdinand1 wrote:
Nuroblav wrote:Your reasons being...

Socialism Has Killed Millions Of People And All It Does Is Ruin Economys And Make Society Worse.

What's with the weird capitalization?
by Diopolis
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:43 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Somerville, Mass to recognize polyamorous partnerships
Replies: 272
Views: 3778

I mean, if we didn't oppress serial killers on the basis of what they do, that would be a problem. I think what you mean to say is that oppressing people for harmless things is not a good alternative to freedom. In which case the disagreement is over whether or not polyamory is harmless. Well yeah,...
by Diopolis
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:38 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: How to save socialism in the US (and other western countries
Replies: 429
Views: 5122

I think the best way to save socialism in the US is to use capitalism to prop it up. Capitalism is all about accumilating wealth while socialism is about how to use it. Maybe they're two halves that should be working with each other instead of against. Isn't what you're trying to describe basically...
by Diopolis
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:31 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Somerville, Mass to recognize polyamorous partnerships
Replies: 272
Views: 3778

not really no Oppressing people based on who they are, what they do or what they say, no matter how relatively harmless, and having them imprisoned, killed or "disappeared" as a result is not even a remotely good alternative to freedom. I mean, if we didn't oppress serial killers on the b...
by Diopolis
Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:34 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Somerville, Mass to recognize polyamorous partnerships
Replies: 272
Views: 3778

So If I am reading this you do not need nor desire legal rights, you just want social acceptance ? I'm not poly (Least I don't think I am, kinda need to be in a relationship first to figure that out), but polyamory is still a massive legal gray area that the Supreme Court didn't really touch upon i...
by Diopolis
Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:55 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Somerville, Mass to recognize polyamorous partnerships
Replies: 272
Views: 3778

One off the cuff issue with polyamory is that it does, indeed, appear to work well for smart, stable adults dedicated to making the relationship work(at least in a liberal few/no kids strata- I've never seen any reports of it actually happening in a high-fertility environment), but that a significa...
by Diopolis
Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:27 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Self-Defense and Entitlement
Replies: 103
Views: 1563

Exactly. There is, however, the complication that unjustly pulling a gun is pretty much always a felony. Pulling a gun on someone because they're threatening your panicking, possibly pregnant wife and preventing her from leaving certainly shouldn't be a felony, even if it should be a crime. Certain...
by Diopolis
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:02 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Self-Defense and Entitlement
Replies: 103
Views: 1563

In Texas or Florida they'd stand a pretty good chance. I don't know Michigan state law that well. This appears to be the law: SELF-DEFENSE ACT (EXCERPT) Act 309 of 2006 780.972 Use of deadly force by individual not engaged in commission of crime; conditions. Sec. 2. (1) An individual who has not or...
by Diopolis
Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:59 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Self-Defense and Entitlement
Replies: 103
Views: 1563

I have no clue as to what the law says is an appropriate charge when you pull a gun on someone because you feel threatened, nor do I know what level of threatening behavior warrants pulling a gun in the eyes of the law. This looks like one of those ridiculous situations where one side escalates an ...
by Diopolis
Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:52 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Self-Defense and Entitlement
Replies: 103
Views: 1563

Galloism wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Depending on state law, preventing them from leaving while making a verbal threat might be considered justifiable grounds for use of force.

Maybe. I dunno about Michigan.

In Texas or Florida they'd stand a pretty good chance. I don't know Michigan state law that well.
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