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by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:31 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread VIII—Can't Let EU Go
Replies: 11490
Views: 150919

Post-Brexit trade partners ask UK to lower human rights standards Wasn't the whole point of this about getting rid of foreign influence on our laws and politics? He's not agreeing to that though is he Fox said that he would not drop Europe’s standards on human rights in exchange for trade deals, as...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:59 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread VIII—Can't Let EU Go
Replies: 11490
Views: 150919

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Sweet, easy smuggling.


Hey! Smuggling to Britain (and/or its colonies) is OUR thing! >:(

We just sail up the Thames, mind. No need for deals behind backs.
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:46 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread VIII—Can't Let EU Go
Replies: 11490
Views: 150919

The open border would be a violation of EU law, but the compliant mechanism is not to kick a nation out of the single market, which is also a violation of EU law. The actual mechanism is to fine Ireland, in that hypothetical. Which only happens if they don’t comply, which they will. There is no rea...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:45 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread VIII—Can't Let EU Go
Replies: 11490
Views: 150919

If you think that this is how EU compliance mechanisms and border law works, then I can't really blame you on being so wrong. You should try to learn some about it, though. So, how are you with UK remaining a part of the single market, with freedom of movement to boot? Because that is the result yo...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:32 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread VIII—Can't Let EU Go
Replies: 11490
Views: 150919

The UK is not going to be building a hard border in Northern Ireland. That has been confirmed by the UK Government. That leaves RoI two options, according to "senior EU officials" -- either southern Ireland builds a hard border themselves, thus making themselves a laughing stock over all ...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:08 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

In legal argument, you base your argument on previous cases because of the doctrine of stare decicis . So if the Supreme Court found in a previous case that something was legal, it is very reasonable to assume they will rule similarly again. This is not some hot new meta way of interpreting law, th...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:27 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

I have provided you with a host of legal arguments on why you are wrong, but you are just saying "yes, but it's unconstitutional". If it is unconstitutional, it's illegal. It would have to be found unconstitutional. It hasn’t be found unconstitutional yet. You haven’t proven shit. You jus...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:09 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

I’m sorry, I should have been more clear. Delegation is legalese for any transfer of power to another body. Schechter does not say all delegation is illegal. It just says that the specific case before the Court did not meet the requirements of Hampton. In an emergency situation, the President only ...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:58 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

So, does everything discussed in the last several pages of this thread mean that Trump has won this once and for all, and there's nothing to be done? Well, not really. It is just legal, but that's just because the law is bad. And this is a power grab that must frighten even the most ardent Republic...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:23 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

Valrifell wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
"BuT HeR E-mAiLs"


We all know that a (Mrs.) Clinton administration would be as much a shitshow.

Though mostly because Reps would've had 58 impeachment hearings by now and the Trump News Network would probably exist.

Also right-wing militias.
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:52 pm
 
Forum: Arts & Fiction
Topic: Paradox Games VIII: Tuscans Always Ride Single File
Replies: 5831
Views: 89315

The light of the Buddha has almost completely spread to the godless Welsh. After them, the Irish. Meanwhile the Aztec threat has grown in continental Europe, but luckily, they don't seem to have been paying any attention to Britannia at the moment. Providing me the time and means to prepare a solid...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:32 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

Yes, more on that below! I'm not. Constitutional law is also law, and I of course use it when I render an opinion on a specific part of law. But there is nothing in the constitution that says Trump can't do this. What is separation of powers clause? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._W._Hampton,_Jr.,...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:41 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

This^ It'll probably pass through the courts without a ton of difficulty, but it is terrible precedent. Has the question of whether or not the branches of government shift their own power around actually been tried before? Yes, more on that below! Alas, it doesn't work that way. The President has t...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:42 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

Yeah, but it could be possible that Congress gave the power of the purse to the President in national emergencies in another Act. If that is the case, then it is still constitutional, because Congress (the original holder of the power) gave the power to someone else. The constitution does not allow...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:36 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

So if he acknowledges that it isn't pertinent to do this right now, than how is this a National Emergency? That actually is a good question and will be used when states or the house take the order to court. Effectively Trump just gave the courts the ability to say there’s no national emergency and ...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:35 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

Because he said so essentially To my understanding this is just legally within his right to do this Who the fuck designed this system? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_W._Rodino This man, apparently. On a different note, I had a chat about this in the group chat of my master programme. Just a bu...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:33 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

Because he said so essentially To my understanding this is just legally within his right to do this I don't believe he's just allowed to take funds Congress assigned elsewhere to do with as he pleases, that would violate whatever section of the Constitution that pins Congress and the House in speci...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:31 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

Trump could say "There is no national emergency at all, but I have legally declared one, so there" and the Courts could do shit-all about it. Well, unless he starts using those powers in a way inconsistent with the aim of the power. In that case, it could be invalidated through 'detourneme...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:22 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

If Congress agreed to transfer its own powers, then it cannot be unconstitutional. Congress can pass unconstitutional laws, but they are free to decide who actually executes their legislative function. They do this all the time. Many laws contain provisions allowing secretaries or the president to ...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:18 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

I think not. The National Emergencies Act does not specify what an emergency is, so a President can basically declare one whenever. Congress gave those powers to the president by legislation, they were not usurped. While they did definitely give the President the powers you can still argue that the...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:15 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

(a) With respect to Acts of Congress authorizing the exercise, during the period of a national emergency, of any special or extraordinary power, the President is authorized to declare such national emergency. Such proclamation shall immediately be transmitted to the Congress and published in the Fe...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:51 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

It may have begun. This is the most stupid non emergency national emergency ever declared. Courts, do your thing. This is an incredibly dangerous precedent of "If congress says no I can just declare a national emergency and have the thing I want anyway." I fear it might be entirely legal....
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:29 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

Good luck getting 20 Republicans then because I doubt they will. Your best bet is that courts strike it down. Whether that's because it's unconstitutional or the fact the government can't seize private land to build a project like this; the latter seems more likely. You could make an argument that ...
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:46 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: MAGAThread XV: Because Another
Replies: 4065
Views: 54994

“Trying to use the 25th Amendment to try and circumvent the Election is a despicable act of unconstitutional power grabbing...which happens in third world countries. You have to obey the law. This is an attack on our system & Constitution.” Alan Dershowitz. @TuckerCarlson https://twitter.com/re...
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