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by Dooom35796821595
Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:51 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread XI: The Wheels on the Bus go DUP DUP DUP
Replies: 167
Views: 2001

Vassenor wrote:And there I was thinking the courts were all packed with secret remainers looking for any excuse to derail Brexit.

YOU LIED TO ME DAILY MAIL.


Don’t take it personally, they lie to everyone.
by Dooom35796821595
Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:32 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

Chan Island wrote:
Vassenor wrote:>Scottish Secretary Alister Jack says he thinks Conservative MPs who do not back Boris Johnson's Brexit deal on Saturday should have the party whip removed.

Oh hey here we go again.


Ooh, Ooh! Let's guess how many more are going to be expelled!


There can be only one!
by Dooom35796821595
Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:14 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

But Juncker has ruled out an extension. Tusk has reportedly not ruled one out but he hasn't recently supported one either. If voting against a deal is effectively a no-deal then parliament are breaking their own law (or motion?) that they won't vote for a no-deal. Parliament isn't bound by it's own...
by Dooom35796821595
Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:01 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

Parliament sort of is above the law, since it writes it. And I think Boris would prefer that, since it can be spun as parliamentary supremacy (which it sort of is) over sending an extension request. At the end of the day it’s using legal trickery to try and sabotage the government and Parliament. T...
by Dooom35796821595
Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:45 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

GCCS claimed they could strike it down. And I don’t see how the courts could delay a vote any more then they can revoke an act of parliament. Good for him. He's wrong. I think their seeking an injunction to force the government to appeal it or be seen as considering itself above the law. They only ...
by Dooom35796821595
Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:26 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

The UK Supreme Court can’t strike down an act of Parliament. https://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2011/01/26/supreme-confusion/ “No it cannot. Unlike some Supreme Courts in other parts of the world, the UK Supreme Court does not have the power to ‘strike down’ legislation passed by the UK Parliament. It i...
by Dooom35796821595
Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:14 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

No they can’t, not if we’re leaving the European court and their European legislation on human rights. As said by Fart, this is a challenge before a British court. They can strike it down. And the deal can moet certainly be struck down by the ECJ, since the ECJ will retain jurisdiction over the UK ...
by Dooom35796821595
Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:09 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

No they can’t, not if we’re leaving the European court and their European legislation on human rights. Eh? The challenge is predicated on the deal being contrary to British law, specifically the Taxation (Cross-border Trade) Act 2018. The ECJ has nothing to do with it. The UK Supreme Court could on...
by Dooom35796821595
Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:58 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Largely irrelevant, they can’t do anything about it. They can only point out a contradiction and let the commons fix it.

They can strike it down.


No they can’t, not if we’re leaving the European court and their European legislation on human rights.
by Dooom35796821595
Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:50 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

Fartsniffage wrote:Decision at 5pm in the court case looking at whether the deal is legal.


Largely irrelevant, they can’t do anything about it. They can only point out a contradiction and let the commons fix it.
by Dooom35796821595
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:24 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

I mean, continual election starting immediately after the last one ended, sure. But 3 years down the line with as many years of extra context, hardly the same. Is been almost a full term. And therein lies the problem. They can't guarantee that people actually will still vote to leave. And what if t...
by Dooom35796821595
Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:24 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

Gormwood wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Its more like continued elections until your party is in power.

So... democracy.


No, it’s nothing like democracy, it’s normally the death of it, since the groups who use such tactics tend to stop holding elections as soon as they get into power.
by Dooom35796821595
Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:11 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

Vassenor wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:
Because voting until you get the result you want isn't democracy.


So regular elections are undemocratic?


Its more like continued elections until your party is in power.
by Dooom35796821595
Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:09 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

So here's the million pound question: If Brexit is still 100% the will of the people why is everyone on the Leave side so opposed to a second referendum? Surely all it can do is confirm that. Because no one trusts politicians? And a lot of the talk on a second referendum was “crappy deal or remain”.
by Dooom35796821595
Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:52 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

Vassenor wrote:
Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:
The article you linked says probably not.


It also shows majority support for abandoning Brexit entirely.


No it doesn’t.
by Dooom35796821595
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:30 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50036463 CBI estimate labours nationalisation plan will cost £196 billion. Labours response? “A Labour spokesman said the CBI was more interested in protecting shareholders than in creating a fair economy. He accused the organisation of " incoherent scaremon...
by Dooom35796821595
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:06 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50036463 CBI estimate labours nationalisation plan will cost £196 billion. Labours response? “A Labour spokesman said the CBI was more interested in protecting shareholders than in creating a fair economy. He accused the organisation of " incoherent scaremong...
by Dooom35796821595
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:59 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Aporkalypse Now
Replies: 37
Views: 761

Isn’t this how the pandemic in Contagion got started? A bat passing a disease to a pig, which was then passed to humans due to lax health and safety? (Butcher didn’t clean his hands)
by Dooom35796821595
Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:52 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

They may say no to this one though. I'll be surprised if a formal extradition request is actually made. I suspect there are many cases where the UK simply doesn't bother asking because we know what the answer will be, and this will be one of them. The fact she was recalled sort of shows the America...
by Dooom35796821595
Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:17 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027



Not really, it just means she’s back in her own country and will never come back.
by Dooom35796821595
Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:11 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK teen convicted of sex crime for touching classmate on arm
Replies: 943
Views: 8625

Vassenor wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:How does she know hat he was planning on doing?


So what makes it an unreasonable belief that that's what he was going to do?


The small legal principle of beyond reasonable doubt.
by Dooom35796821595
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:28 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Turkish military offensive in Syria/Rojava
Replies: 1766
Views: 25313

Time to bomb the Turkish army. I doubt we will though since America is basically running away from Turkey instead of standing up to the aggression of a tyrant Of course, you realize, this would trigger article 5 of NATO. You mean that security agreement which is basically America saves you from the...
by Dooom35796821595
Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:18 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

Similar aims? Against increased EU spending ? Protest vote? Attention seeking? The highlighted was what they claimed, but it could be any of them, all of them or more. Because stooges always tell the truth when cornered. :roll: Two things can be true at the same time. Again, protest vote. It’s almo...
by Dooom35796821595
Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:11 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027

“The Brexit party, which abstains or opposes most European parliament votes” Or par for the course. So why didn't they abstain from this when they're at the forefront of a movement heavily suspected to be being pushed by the Russians? Similar aims? Against increased EU spending ? Protest vote? Atte...
by Dooom35796821595
Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:54 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash
Replies: 12482
Views: 149027



“The Brexit party, which abstains or opposes most European parliament votes”

Or par for the course.
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