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by San Lumen
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:41 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should There Be A Right To Discriminate?
Replies: 751
Views: 8128

I don't think one has a right to be an Islamaphobe or anti Semite in their business. Once again if your open to the public you dont get to pick and choose your customers You do though... That's why there's those whole "reserve the right to refuse service" signs. That right does not includ...
by San Lumen
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:40 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore - Fixing the rust belt cities
Replies: 154
Views: 2322

Grew up in Detroit. I can guarantee you Democrats didn't kill the city. White flight did. Even the staunchest right wing city in the world could not survive the loss of the wealthiest 65% of it's population. You want to save the rust belt? Ever notice that all the military bases and government offi...
by San Lumen
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:36 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should There Be A Right To Discriminate?
Replies: 751
Views: 8128

Simply because something is legal does not mean it is moral,Morality should always be above legality Agreed. But denying someone their rights is the greater moral offense, as opposed to refusing to provide service. I believe political beliefs are already included in some anti discrimination ordinan...
by San Lumen
Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:26 am
 
Forum: Forum 7
Topic: Which city would you live in? Part 2: Earth Bogaloo
Replies: 2143
Views: 20421

Springfield, Illinois

Denver, Colorado or Crescent City, California?
by San Lumen
Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:22 am
 
Forum: Forum 7
Topic: Which city would you live in? Part 2: Earth Bogaloo
Replies: 2143
Views: 20421

Granada.

Minneapolis or Chicago?
by San Lumen
Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:22 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should There Be A Right To Discriminate?
Replies: 751
Views: 8128

I don’t see why discrimination based on religion ought to be ok. Yes someone chooses a religion but it doesn’t justify allowing bigotry simply because it’s a choice Now hold on, people have been saying bigotry shouldn’t be allowed specifically for things one didn’t choose. If you include religion, ...
by San Lumen
Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:20 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should There Be A Right To Discriminate?
Replies: 751
Views: 8128

So if a Orthodox Jew goes into a store or hotel in upstate New York with a kippah and they are anti Semitic oh well? Yes,oh well.What can you do? By your logic its also morally correct to accept a Neo nazi and a KKK member into your establishment simply because their just 'ideals'. Not allow that k...
by San Lumen
Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:42 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should There Be A Right To Discriminate?
Replies: 751
Views: 8128

As I've already said,you can't choose if your black,white,yellow,red gay,straight and the likes but you can choose your religion. So i believe that while refusing someone due to something outside of their control is amoral and should be illegal,i also believe refusing someone because of their relig...
by San Lumen
Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:32 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should There Be A Right To Discriminate?
Replies: 751
Views: 8128

Why religion? If a store or restaurant had a policy of no Jews or Muslims why would that be ok? As I've already said,you can't choose if your black,white,yellow,red gay,straight and the likes but you can choose your religion. So i believe that while refusing someone due to something outside of thei...
by San Lumen
Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:31 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should There Be A Right To Discriminate?
Replies: 751
Views: 8128

Woodfiredpizzas wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What do you propose is the solution in this scenario then? Only the people they like can attend the wedding?


Yeah pretty much.

So tell me what would you do in this scenario if you were the one getting married ?
by San Lumen
Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:35 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should There Be A Right To Discriminate?
Replies: 751
Views: 8128

I Personally believe a business shouldn't be allowed to deny you because of Race,sexuality,gender ETC as those are things you are unable to control and are born with,i do believe however that they are fully within their right to deny service to a Neo-nazi or a person of a certain religion. You CHOO...
by San Lumen
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:34 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should There Be A Right To Discriminate?
Replies: 751
Views: 8128

Ors Might wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What are those other things you value more?

Individual liberty.

So you'd rather protect the rights of bigots like in the scenario i laid out then not face like it in reality?
by San Lumen
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:32 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore - Fixing the rust belt cities
Replies: 154
Views: 2322

I dont think we ought to be forcing companies into doing things but they could instead of pitting places against each other going to communities like Detroit and helping them by hiring local people. You could turn Detroit around in a few years time. I agree. But how do we get them to do that when t...
by San Lumen
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:29 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should There Be A Right To Discriminate?
Replies: 751
Views: 8128

Ors Might wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Nor would I but this could all be avoided with the Civil Rights Act and anti discrimination laws.

At the cost of other things that I value more than people not being total dicks.


What are those other things you value more?
by San Lumen
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:28 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore - Fixing the rust belt cities
Replies: 154
Views: 2322

Well about taking that 100 billion dollar profit and helping communities? I agree they should, I just don’t see them doing it willingly, which is why I think we need redistributionary policies mandated by law I dont think we ought to be forcing companies into doing things but they could instead of ...
by San Lumen
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:24 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore - Fixing the rust belt cities
Replies: 154
Views: 2322

Its that supposed to be funny because its not. That and hire people from Detroit, Omaha, St Louis or Baltimore for those jobs in that new HQ and not bring people in. The jobs were mostly executive-level, which most unemployed working-class people don’t have the education or experience for straight ...
by San Lumen
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:22 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Trump Supporter Attacked at UC Berkeley
Replies: 181
Views: 2049

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Defund those fucked up universities. That's what I say.

Yes lets wreck the education of thousands, put thousands out of work and shut down critical research tfor the actions of a few. Seems logical
by San Lumen
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:20 pm
 
Forum: Forum 7
Topic: Wikipedia Game : The Second Thread
Replies: 10513
Views: 110080

by San Lumen
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:20 pm
 
Forum: Moderation
Topic: [R] Possible Trolling in fixing rust belt cities
Replies: 1
Views: 135

[R] Possible Trolling in fixing rust belt cities



Not sure if this is trolling or advocating death but it seems to be suggesting blowing up whole communities with nuclear weapons. Doesn't seems kosher regardless
by San Lumen
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:17 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore - Fixing the rust belt cities
Replies: 154
Views: 2322

I'm surprised nobody has suggested the sane and realistic solution Its that supposed to be funny because its not. That was part of the problem people had. How about Amazon going to Detroit or Omaha or West Virginia and hiring people there? I see no problem with it As in, in packaging etc.? I have n...
by San Lumen
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:14 pm
 
Forum: Forum 7
Topic: Which city would you live in? Part 2: Earth Bogaloo
Replies: 2143
Views: 20421

Antananarivo

Lansing. Michigan or Jefferson City, Missouri?
by San Lumen
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:14 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should There Be A Right To Discriminate?
Replies: 751
Views: 8128

Ok maybe that was a little over the top but what if they said they were not welcome at all and anyone non white wasn’t welcome either? Then I wouldn’t want to be at that hotel? If they’re gonna be like that then they don’t deserve my currency. Nor would I but this could all be avoided with the Civi...
by San Lumen
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:13 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore - Fixing the rust belt cities
Replies: 154
Views: 2322

here’s how you can fix these rust belt cities. How about instead of amazon building a headquarters in New York or Virginia go too Omaha, St. Louis or Detroit or Charleston, West Virginia Or any other economically depressed city? You’d be hiring people who need jobs and help revitalize the economy O...
by San Lumen
Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:04 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore - Fixing the rust belt cities
Replies: 154
Views: 2322

here’s how you can fix these rust belt cities. How about instead of amazon building a headquarters in New York or Virginia go too Omaha, St. Louis or Detroit or Charleston, West Virginia Or any other economically depressed city?

You’d be hiring people who need jobs and help revitalize the economy
by San Lumen
Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:45 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should There Be A Right To Discriminate?
Replies: 751
Views: 8128

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