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by Neu Leonstein
Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:17 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: 2020 US General Election Thread VI: Covid for VP!
Replies: 12449
Views: 134635

Damn, that sucks, brah. Should be repealed. What would it even mean to "legally revolt"? The problem so many Americans in particular have is that they seem to almost deliberately downplay means of social control that are not explicitly written down in legal texts. Like, it's obviously not...
by Neu Leonstein
Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:04 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Does anyone actually think working isn't a scam?
Replies: 90
Views: 2278

-snip- To be fair, there's a massive difference in the experience of workers and managers in a "professional" job and those in "menial" jobs, including part-time and casual service work. You can also do quite well in the gig economy... Meh, that's massively overrated. The gig ec...
by Neu Leonstein
Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:44 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: How is the USA supposed to get out of a deflationary spiral?
Replies: 35
Views: 865

There's a more interesting angle to the OP's question, one that stretches back a few decades and in which Covid is just a small piece. A case in point. But I fear this is no longer the place to discuss such things. So for now, let me just say that it would hep if the US government wasn't the most in...
by Neu Leonstein
Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:35 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Open vs. closed borders, and tourism vs. work
Replies: 90
Views: 2010

At this point is the question whether globalisation should survive, or whether it will? I'm very interested to see how its future looks given the people in charge want to keep it around to some extent but current events haven't been too kind to it. Hard to have tourism during a pandemic. Much as it...
by Neu Leonstein
Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:54 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should alimony exist?
Replies: 311
Views: 8984

Alimony has nothing to do with paying for the child. It's money specifically for your ex. Ah, I stand corrected. While often thrown in with child support, as I did there, you're right. They're not the same thing. In which case the argument for it is a different one. It depends on the circumstances,...
by Neu Leonstein
Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:40 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should alimony exist?
Replies: 311
Views: 8984

Yes, it should. Two parents = two people with a responsibility for the kid's wellbeing. Ideally that's economic and non-economic. But if the relationship between the parents makes some forms of shared care impossible, that doesn't mean it makes all forms of shared care impossible. You don't have to ...
by Neu Leonstein
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:43 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash
Replies: 12485
Views: 223036

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/eu-settlement-scheme-quarterly-statistics-september-2019 The "3 million" figure was always an estimate. Applications for settled status are hard data - though of course they exclude a) those who haven't applied yet, b) the Irish, c) anyone who appli...
by Neu Leonstein
Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:41 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Old people shouldn't be able to vote
Replies: 676
Views: 17676

They haven't undergone naturalization and, quite often, aren't a settled population base with strong ties to local culture and institutions. "They" is a bit of a weasel word in this case, isn't it? You're making an argument about people's franchise stemming from things that they are or th...
by Neu Leonstein
Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:34 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: On the Subject of Progressivism and Conservatism
Replies: 162
Views: 5810

Progressives, Democrats, Socialists (National and Marxist), Populists, and Liberals alike. Share with me this, why do you uphold the beliefs that you do? To what end do they serve you individually, or satisfy your basic human needs? I would say that underneath my support for many "progressive&...
by Neu Leonstein
Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:34 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash
Replies: 12485
Views: 223036

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... l-election

I guess there's always emigration. At least for a couple more months.
by Neu Leonstein
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:38 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Old people shouldn't be able to vote
Replies: 676
Views: 17676

Democracy is for better or worse about giving people what they want. Is it though? There are at least two ways to look at the purpose of democratic government. One is outcomes-based, where you hope to create a government that produces the best policies for the most people. The other is representati...
by Neu Leonstein
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:47 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Old people shouldn't be able to vote
Replies: 676
Views: 17676

Im hindsight, a test to see if people can vote just sounds bad. Too easy to manipulate it and prevent voting rights to people in general, even if it's a few. It'll be a slow but painful death to democracy What was I thinking? The alternative, realistically, is a debacle like the Brexit referendum. ...
by Neu Leonstein
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:00 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Old people shouldn't be able to vote
Replies: 676
Views: 17676

No taxation without representation" and all that, y'know? A curious place to take an argument that residents are somehow different from citizens when it comes to representation. Or indeed, any number of teenagers who earn taxable income. I think you're reaching a bit here. You want to make an ...
by Neu Leonstein
Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:37 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Old people shouldn't be able to vote
Replies: 676
Views: 17676

I would consider paying taxes and paying into mandatory social benefits to constitute service to the state in much the same manner as military service and signing up for the draft are forms of service. So why is it a binary 'yes/no', but doesn't scale with the size of the payments one has made? We ...
by Neu Leonstein
Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:33 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Old people shouldn't be able to vote
Replies: 676
Views: 17676

That's great and all and if it truly affects them that much they can seek citizenship. I could list various reasons for why that might not be practical sometimes, but that'd be to get bogged down in unnecessary detail. The bigger point is that society is a fluid thing. People join and leave, physic...
by Neu Leonstein
Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:30 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Old people shouldn't be able to vote
Replies: 676
Views: 17676

Except that metaphor isn't appropriate for a democratic government. The elderly have rendered service to the state and deserve representation just as much if not more so than people have rendered less service. I find it amusing that living somewhere now equates to "service to the state". ...
by Neu Leonstein
Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:37 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Old people shouldn't be able to vote
Replies: 676
Views: 17676

Do you agree with this proposition? In sentiment, I do. Though in practice, I'm more in the school of thought that says democracy is a two-way process, and the "right" to vote is tied to a responsibility to be sufficiently informed about what is being voted on. You'd have heard it hundred...
by Neu Leonstein
Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:30 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Old people shouldn't be able to vote
Replies: 676
Views: 17676

(though not really in the case of non-citizens since it does not make much sense to allow those who are not citizens of a nation vote in it's election.). Citizenship is just a paper thing. Like having a driver's licence or not. It doesn't tell you much about whether someone is part of a society or ...
by Neu Leonstein
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:17 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Dresden declares 'Nazi emergency'
Replies: 134
Views: 3272

Don't be so dense to act as if though NSG is a representative of the real world and all beliefs in it. Believe it or not people do support such actions in response to things such as this. Then NSG is not the place for your arguments, is it? Instead what you're doing is engaging in emotional gratifi...
by Neu Leonstein
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:04 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Dresden declares 'Nazi emergency'
Replies: 134
Views: 3272

Now lets get to the meat of the issue. Most of the time when stuff like this gets brought up people go on about how we need to ban these groups and hate speech and so on. Really? Have you read this thread? It's just one giant circular wank of people proclaiming this article to be evidence of an aut...
by Neu Leonstein
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:39 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash
Replies: 12485
Views: 223036

Boris is a big draw. We're now in US style identity politics. You've been there for a while. Remember that before the referendum, EU membership never made it very high on the list of things people polled as caring very much about. Now it's an issue people use to define themselves. It way to explain...
by Neu Leonstein
Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:18 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash
Replies: 12485
Views: 223036

I'm quietly relieved at the rugby result. I had concerns about the impact of a victory parade in London in the middle of an election campaign; both on the broader result and on the result in Scotland. I personally still reckon that if the referendum hadn't coincided with the European football champ...
by Neu Leonstein
Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:24 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: A flawless plan to solve the UK housing crisis.
Replies: 87
Views: 1564

Everywhere is going through a housing crisis. Indeed. And generally this is driven by the same factors everywhere. Part of the post-war project to build grand societies of content, prosperous nuclear family units that would get rid of the need for Marxist criticisms of our institutions was property...
by Neu Leonstein
Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:38 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should the Führer bunker in Berlin be opened?
Replies: 232
Views: 4041

Was there last summer on a walking tour. Can confirm there's a car park in its place. A couple of plaques added recently to help with walking tours, but I don't believe they're official ones. The anticlimactic nature of it works quite well. And quite frankly, that's plenty enough in that city alread...
by Neu Leonstein
Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:29 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes
Replies: 12485
Views: 220488

Just for reference: when Johnson talks about renegotiating Brexit by leaving without a deal and instead negotiating an FTA during a transition period during which trade arrangements between EU and UK stay the same because of the unilateral application of a GATT article, he's lying.
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