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by Handecanistan
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:15 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should There Be A Right To Fornicate?
Replies: 35
Views: 760

Mystic Warriors wrote:
Handecanistan wrote:Pretty sure fornication is having sex without being married? It isn't adultery, it's literally 2 people that aren't married going at it. I don't get what the problem is?




It is an affront to god, all serial killers were born out if wedlock.


Oh I get it. This is a prank
by Handecanistan
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:07 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Should There Be A Right To Fornicate?
Replies: 35
Views: 760

Pretty sure fornication is having sex without being married? It isn't adultery, it's literally 2 people that aren't married going at it. I don't get what the problem is?
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:26 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

Yes and if I lashed out physically or had you jailed I would be in the wrong. Getting offended at something is not a good reason to jail someone. This is not merely a matter of people being offended; it is a matter of maintaining social stability. The good of society as a whole outweighs the the se...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:24 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

And your logic allows the Nazis to maintain their power by giving the government justification to take someone out for "re-education". Which gives more damage, a rally/protest, or the government "re-educating" people? If a totalitarian regime has already taken power, then speech...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:19 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

Ah, very good, an actual counterpoint. We're actually getting somewhere. So if someone has the right to defend their opinions by any means necessary, does that not mean that they can resort to insults, which would then allow the other person to feel insulted and imprison you? It feels like it just ...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:03 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

Okay it is wrong to escalate things to violence and jail time because someone said something you found offensive because violence and jail time does much more harm than saying something offensives and thus your harming them more than they harmed you. Willing to debate now? Yes. The harm that intent...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:01 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

The argument is if you were insulted you shouldn't have a right to escalate to violence or imprisonment. If you disagree then surely you have a reason for it? This is how debates work, 2 opinions clash and they are backed up or broken down. Don't worry, we can take this slow, maybe the religion is ...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:54 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

I did make an argument. I made the argument that I think it is wrong to escalate things to violence and jail time because you are offended by what someone said. This just seems to me you don't have a counter argument. Where is the argument? You literally just stated an opinion. Stating your opinion...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:38 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

You can very much insult people for refusing to believe in a god. And it does indeed have a history. There have been many different atheist movements and atheist philosophers throughout history. To suggest it has no history is nothing more than blatant falsehood. As for whether or not it's sacred, ...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:54 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

Tbh I don't have much sympathy for people who break these kinds of laws because they know the laws exist and often go out of their way to violate them. It's one thing if they're being punished for their beliefs, which I'm against, but it's another to publicly insult the country's religion, it's int...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:29 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

National Insult Atheism Day on April 1st. Nice subtle way to discredit my argument atheists and freethinkers dominate the nation and the world 84% of the world is still religiously affiliated, although varying by exactly how religious they are. Also, Gen Z in the west is supposed to be far more spi...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:48 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

Yeah, forcing someone to not believe in a religion defeats the purpose, if you hate it when a group forces you to think the same way they do, you wouldn't want to think their way and would resist instead. It is impossible to suddenly remove religion without definitive proof of the true origin of ev...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:36 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

Islam and religion don't exist and atheists and freethinkers rule the roost. What’s wrong with religion? Isn’t that a part of freedom of speech? If atheists enforce atheism on religious people, that ruins the point doesn’t it? Yeah, forcing someone to not believe in a religion defeats the purpose, ...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:11 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

It's a well known fact that religions target and spread their beliefs onto children in as that is the state that is easiest to manipulate, as they have learnt that "adults know best" and don't have enough experience to question things or think critically. If a religion didn't bolster thei...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:58 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

... Yes. That's the point. Religions like Islam would die in five generations if they didn't breed this extensively. More people leave the religion than they convert every day. Are you calling Muslims fruit flies? It's a well known fact that religions target and spread their beliefs onto children i...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:49 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

You'd rather the West "exported people"? Because that's what happened during the Age of Imperialism. Also, newsflash, higher living standards lead to lower birthrates. That is true pretty much everywhere. Seeing how overpopulation is a problem for the world in general and for Muslim count...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:38 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

Khataiy you still haven't answered my question of where in the Holy Qur'an and/or Sunnah blasphemy is a punishable offense. And I'd just like to bump this, because I'm also curious.[/quote] I I just had a look and blasphemy laws originally came from Imperialism from the Brits etc and they tended to...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:58 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

The fact that I live in a country which actually respects freedom of speech instead of enforcing thought crime like a bunch of insecure children. That's what gives me the right. Go to Malaysia and ask Malaysians what they want instead of being an arm chair war monger. To be fair muslims make up ove...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:49 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

I have given my citation. You haven't demonstrated any counter-evidence to show, as you claimed, that views otherwise considered extreme by the rest of humanity are held by a "vocal minority" only. Extrapolating from the trend, it's practically impossible that there would be substantial c...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:21 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

The graphs show that, at the very least, around half of all Muslims have extreme Islamic beliefs. Which one? Look at page 5 and you'll see them about Sharia law and executing those that convert away from Islam. On page 6 I went through the averages of the graphs too, 42.8% for executing converts an...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:14 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

Ok so what were you saying? Because if the majority of people believing something Islamic isn't necessarily Islamic, then it must be something? I'm saying you saying that "the majority of Muslims believing x" doesn't necessarily make it a part of Al-Islam. For example if the majority of u...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:11 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

You mean the Isis inspired terrrorist atracks? In 2016? No, they didn't start in 2016, if that's what you mean. By this I mean the new wave of attacks - before, they were few and not commonplace (11/9, 7/7, Bali & Madrid bombings, etc) The graphs show that, at the very least, around half of all...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:04 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

So they're not real Muslims believing in Islam? Even though they are probably more classic believers and moderate Islamic beliefs are a relatively recent thing? Both moderate and extremist Islamic views are Islamic beliefs, you can argue that one of them isn't "truly Islamic", but that is...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:55 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

It's a strictly Islamic phenomenon in Malaysia. For the rest of the world, most blasphemy cases are prosecuted in Muslim countries. Astounded by this high IQ math Assuming (roflmao) that your math is right, you seriously think 30% of Muslims supporting killing apostates is an acceptable small minor...
by Handecanistan
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:48 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Malaysian jailed for 10 years for "insulting Islam"
Replies: 597
Views: 5672

The argument is about the majority and therefore mainstream Islamic belief. Don't shift the goal posts because it just acknowledges his point. I mean the majority of Muslims believing something doesn't make said belief Islamic. So they're not real Muslims believing in Islam? Even though they are pr...
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