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by Sada Difrium
Wed May 01, 2019 10:02 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

The Alma Mater wrote:Pigs are also sentient. We still eat bacon.


They aren't though.
by Sada Difrium
Wed May 01, 2019 9:29 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

Let me reword Senkaku's statement then. All human beings deserve basic rights and dignity. That is a literal contradiction in words. Deserving by definition means you have earned something. And it is very clear that what you actually mean is that they should be entitled to these things with no effo...
by Sada Difrium
Wed May 01, 2019 8:15 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Does America spend to much on it’s military?
Replies: 154
Views: 1811

This post on reddit was the best argument I've seen against the idea that the budget is too large. Basically, we're spending a lot because we took on the role of world police. If you want to reduce the defense budget, you'd have to reduce commitments somewhere in the world. There are certainly argu...
by Sada Difrium
Wed May 01, 2019 8:00 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: The Moral Case For Germany Annexing Poland—And Beyond
Replies: 71
Views: 1404

Deutschess Kaiserreich wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:Eh. None of those nation's have a right to exist anyway.

Let's take it further. We don't have the right to exist. How's that for edgy and dark?


I agree. That's why I'm voting Giant Meteor 2020.
by Sada Difrium
Wed May 01, 2019 5:44 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

Baltenstein wrote:Haven't read through the last 19 pages, but is the list in the OP actually for reals or some over-the-top satire?
Neither would surprise me.


I think someone said these were leaked MSS documents?
by Sada Difrium
Wed May 01, 2019 5:16 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

Sorry, never gonna be on board with this line of thinking. All human beings have basic rights and dignity, and any government that fails to respect that should be toppled, whether it's Maduro running his people over with tanks or Xi throwing people in prison camps. No they don't. They have what eve...
by Sada Difrium
Wed May 01, 2019 5:06 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

Let me say it again: Religious freedom is the first step towards improving relations with the people in Xinjiang. It doesn't matter who started it or whether the Uyghurs deserve it. You asked me pages ago to propose a solution, and I gave you one. Since then, you have not addressed why it would not...
by Sada Difrium
Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:06 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: La Crisis Venezolana: The Crisis in Venezuela
Replies: 2270
Views: 43041

Still doesn't look like Guaido has enough support in the military to win. I'm afraid you're right, but I hope he succeeds some how. I know the worry here is that the revolt fails, but I'm more worried about a Syria or Libya type situation where the conflict drags on and destroys the country. Don't ...
by Sada Difrium
Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:17 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

Let me say it again: Religious freedom is the first step towards improving relations with the people in Xinjiang. It doesn't matter who started it or whether the Uyghurs deserve it. You asked me pages ago to propose a solution, and I gave you one. Since then, you have not addressed why it would not...
by Sada Difrium
Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:06 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

I am saying that, in your framework of a world where China must take the nuclear option for the good of its citizens, it is only logical that the Uyghurs resort to their own nuclear option, terrorism. In the real world, neither has to. However, since we're on the topic of not addressing responses, ...
by Sada Difrium
Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:54 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

It's also not the Uyghurs' fault that they were born in a country that does not respect their freedom of worship. Of course, since this is a black and white world that you claim we live in, their only solution is terrorist attacks, which means they are completely justified in their actions. I alrea...
by Sada Difrium
Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:41 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

Well, I'm glad to hear about the noble efforts of the Chinese government to keep the peace lmfao. Ethnic concentration camps, destruction of cultural centers, and the establishment of the most comprehensive police state in human history certainly seem completely consistent with a government that ju...
by Sada Difrium
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:52 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

'Its how the world works' meaning 'this is how communities like the Uyghur see the world and pragmatic policy must reflect it' This is exactly why we're saying you have an us vs. them view of the world. The situation in Xinjiang is complicated, but you are stating things in a way that fits a worldv...
by Sada Difrium
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:23 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

So you're basically confirming his point that you're hard to reason with? No, he claimed that I'm the one who views the world in 'us vs. them' terms, but I don't, I'm arguing that the Uyghurs view the world in 'us vs. them' terms. That's a big difference. He sees things in black vs white, us vs the...
by Sada Difrium
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:16 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

He sees things in black vs white, us vs them, all or nothing zero sum battles. So you are going to have a hard time reasoning with him. Because he has reduced his arguments to false dichotomies Because its how the world works, the Uyghurs have proven themselves tribalistic, showing sustained favour...
by Sada Difrium
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:07 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

And I responded to your comment already. If lack of religious freedom were the root cause of the violence, then all religious groups that have suffered repression in the past (Christians, ancestral worship, folk religions) would be committing religious violence. That they are not proves your assump...
by Sada Difrium
Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:58 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

Its only an issue if you know for sure they are innocent or have some way to distinguish for sure the guilty and innocent. But the 'fog of war' prevents us from making that distinction. The choice is between letting your people die, or taking preventative and protective measures. I don't fault Chin...
by Sada Difrium
Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:21 am
 
Forum: Factbooks and National Information
Topic: .::How Powerful is Your Nation?::.
Replies: 1604
Views: 71143

Your nation's full name: The Democratic Republic of Sada Difrium Your nation's full population: 278 million Your nation's founding date (if you have one): 2004 by the Gregorian calendar Your nation's type of government: Representative democracy How frequent does your governm...
by Sada Difrium
Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:56 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

If you choose to live as a religious fundamentalist in a state that is deeply suspicious of religious fundamentalists then you tacitly accept the consequences willingly as a necessary sacrifice for your faith. Yeah, these idiots should have just chosen to be born in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. In fac...
by Sada Difrium
Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:29 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

The recent crackdown on Islamic practices was in response to endless waves of Uyghur terrorism and ethno-supremacist violence. They had religious freedom before that. Didn’t stop them from forming groups like the Turkistan Islamic Party and raping and butchering Hans in the name of their religipn a...
by Sada Difrium
Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:16 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

Your solution was "counter-terrorism short of mass detention". I already told you China has been doing that for years and yet the Uyghur attacks on Hans kept on coming and coming. As for your claim that the threshold is so low that any Uyghur Muslim would qualify, this is clearly false si...
by Sada Difrium
Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:36 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

People who drink water or sprite are more likely to be extremists All terrorists drink water. Ergo everyone who drinks water is a potential terrorist. Wait, I bet YOU drink water! :blink: The Ministry of State Security has been notified. :twisted: You know who else has drank water before? Hitler, S...
by Sada Difrium
Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:01 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

Do you see mass attacks, bombings and rapes by Christians on non-Christians in China? No, you don't. So if they can do it why can't certain communities and groups within Xinjiang? You asked me to give a solution to the problem, and I have. You haven't actually addressed why this solution would not ...
by Sada Difrium
Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:39 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

Well, I've yet to hear anyone in this thread criticising Chinese counter-terrorism policies suggest alternative ways of countering the threat of anti-Han racial and religious attacks in Xinjiang. Let's start with granting religious freedom. Christianity and Islam have both been suppressed by the Ch...
by Sada Difrium
Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:29 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: China's list of 48 extremist tendencies
Replies: 585
Views: 10306

And China isn't throwing people in jail just for having a beard. Its a combination of numerous demographic factors which, cumulatively, raises a person's risk assessment to be alarmingly high. You're right that being male alone doesn't make one a serial killer, but if numerous other demographic fac...
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