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by Lower Nubia
Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:34 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
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I understand your definition of atheism but I think to be atheist you have to reach a conclusion or give a reason why you don't believe. I haven't even gotten to that stage, in my eyes the whole process of having to believe or not is unnecessary. I think doubting is being skeptical , agnostic is be...
by Lower Nubia
Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:24 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
Replies: 6074
Views: 105263

That’s not what I’m saying, I said the BCP liturgy was practically copied verbatim and then Romanised, look here starting in page 19. You can quickly see the structure is the 1662 BCP and the prayers are BCP. Romanisation, introduction of incense, vestments, bells are different but rightfully so be...
by Lower Nubia
Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:39 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
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No, you’ve confused Transubstantiation with the Real Presence, Real Presence is that the Bread and Wine are the literal body and blood of Christ - this is what the ancient Christians believed and we know this because the evidence is overwhelming. Transubstantiation is a further expansion on what th...
by Lower Nubia
Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:07 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
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The 1662 and 1928 are very easily accommodated into Anglo-Catholic worship. I also find that final statement odd, because it was the Roman’s themselves who adopted the BCP for the Anglican Ordinariate, not the other way around. Without the Anglo-Catholic’s, the BCP wouldn’t be used by the Catholic’...
by Lower Nubia
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:48 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
Replies: 6074
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At the time of the Reformation, the 39 articles of religion were also produced as a summary of the Church of England's position on various issues of the time and disagreements with Roman Catholicism, but modern Anglicans differ in the degree to which they agree or disagree with the articles (Lower ...
by Lower Nubia
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:32 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
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The ambiguity is because I am using Catholic as interchangeable with Roman. Catholic is merely a term. We are, naturally, catholic, whenever we recited the Nicene Creed we prove so, yet we still closer in origin to the Reformation—or ought be—than Rome: even via media was between Lutheranism and th...
by Lower Nubia
Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:28 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
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You only need personal freedom when you need to accommodate different and therefore even contradictory means of worship . If everyone agreed, there would be one method. The fact there are many is testament to Paganisms inherent disunity and disagreements.in Christianity, there is no personal freedo...
by Lower Nubia
Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:23 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
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Exactly... it’s decentralised to accommodate the vast variety of methods. A variety of methods that exist because people barely agree on anything. sure, but that decentralized structure also allows more personal freedom of worship, instead of people pointing at each other and saying "No that's...
by Lower Nubia
Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:18 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
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As if Pagan’s arn’t so petty in their vast opinions on worship or to whom. not really, Pagans don't have an extremely centralized structure that dictates so harshly, the downside is that organization does become more difficult. Exactly... it’s decentralised to accommodate the vast variety of method...
by Lower Nubia
Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:17 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
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The obvious answer is a Monarch, or other form government, is only validly appointed only while it follows the will of God - the difficult bit is knowing the will of God. The problem with that statement is that the Will of God can't be undone by anything. Even a bad monarch is within the Will of Go...
by Lower Nubia
Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:11 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
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New Steuben wrote:these are the petty arguments i was referring to between Christians

the only thing that should matter for a christian is christ and his teachings, everything else is just filler, or am I just wrong?


As if Pagan’s arn’t so petty in their vast opinions on worship or to whom.
by Lower Nubia
Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:09 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
Replies: 6074
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Harking back to an earlier discussion in this thread on whether it is acceptable for Christians to rebel against lawful governments- I managed to find this post from the Anglican blog laudable Practice, which quotes at length a sermon delivered by Christopher Wordsworth, the then-future Bishop of L...
by Lower Nubia
Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:34 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
Replies: 6074
Views: 105263

Tarsonis wrote:
New Steuben wrote:Do you all consider islam a abrahamic faith or a cult that latched onto abrahamic style.



I can't say I see a meaningful difference between the two. Regardless of how they started they worship the God of Abraham.


Christ is the God of Abraham, no?
by Lower Nubia
Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:47 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Why do Some Christians support Trump?
Replies: 623
Views: 7620

Ignore the fact that both Russia and Saudi Arabia are the 4th and 3rd largest oil import sources to the US. Yeah, that's why increased domestic energy production is good. I agree with you about him being a warmonger. What his administration has done in Yemen is not indicative of a man of peace. Yea...
by Lower Nubia
Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:49 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
Replies: 6074
Views: 105263

Christ didn’t whip them for trading, but trading in his father’s house. In that regard, prosperity gospel would be more akin to the people he whipped compared to say, the people on Wall Street. I could've sworn they were money-changers that converted Roman currency into temple currency and Christ w...
by Lower Nubia
Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:28 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
Replies: 6074
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Less seriously, I remember an incident with a whip, so likely Christ would use the modern equivalent, an Amazon sex swing. You mean this one? https://i.imgur.com/oc4ArSEl.jpg (though, i contend if overall the image can too easily be co-opted by supporters of liberation theology, basically to trivia...
by Lower Nubia
Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:32 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge
Replies: 6074
Views: 105263

Question for my Christian friends here (sorry if I posted in the wrong place): What political philosophy would you argue Jesus would be if he was in modern times? And does this influence who you vote for/support in elections, or your own political philsophy? Fully automated luxury gay space communi...
by Lower Nubia
Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:27 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: Why do Some Christians support Trump?
Replies: 623
Views: 7620

So now you're suggesting the reason the ban happened is because the infrastructure in the countries listed couldn't provide an accurate assessment of who was arriving? So here are primary refugees populations: Are you suggesting that the nations which he didn't ban which represent enough administra...
by Lower Nubia
Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:50 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Why do Some Christians support Trump?
Replies: 623
Views: 7620

For a start of that's not the only incident of Trump's creepyness, the problem is is one somehow tolerable? Nothing of the statement is out of context. I literally posted the video for all to see. You have to broadly assume his intention is to rape his own daughter, which is way more than an exagge...
by Lower Nubia
Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:46 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Why do Some Christians support Trump?
Replies: 623
Views: 7620

That's the problem though! The US receives asylum seekers from a vast number of nations beyond those banned ones, it's just these nations represent a vast number of Muslim asylum seekers. If asylum seekers (Regardless of religion) are inherently more violent due to their socioeconomic position, why...
by Lower Nubia
Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:36 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Why do Some Christians support Trump?
Replies: 623
Views: 7620

Who said it wasen't? I'm saying it applies to both. Which is the concern because the other person said it turned them off from Biden (understandable) but not Trump, when both have said creepy statements in the same regard. I really don't think an out of context quote by Trump is as bad as literally...
by Lower Nubia
Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:34 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Why do Some Christians support Trump?
Replies: 623
Views: 7620

I gave the reason, it's to stop Muslim asylum seekers. Does Saudi Arabia have masses of refugees leaving? Have I? The only claim I made was that this ban was to stop Muslim asylum seekers, and that's just a blatant fact. Backtrack here, you specified violent crime, and now it's terrorism, I agree t...
by Lower Nubia
Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:26 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Why do Some Christians support Trump?
Replies: 623
Views: 7620

He's trying to compliment his daughter by saying, if he could, he would? In what was is that not creepy? I mean... here's the video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avQq2Mr0A9M Haven't seen a deflection like this since the Hand of God. If complimenting your daughter in a weird way is creepy, how ...
by Lower Nubia
Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:24 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Why do Some Christians support Trump?
Replies: 623
Views: 7620

Slow down, there's a difference between nations having high crime rates and people coming from those countries being part of that enterprise. In addition, I can think of plenty of more violent countries than the ones included in the ban, so why these countries specifically? Boom boom! We got a winn...
by Lower Nubia
Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:04 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: Why do Some Christians support Trump?
Replies: 623
Views: 7620

... Weren't there video's and pictures of Trump saying inappropriate things about his daughter before 2016? ... Free Will being an excuse for blatant inconsistency is pretty damning of your ability to rationalise issues. It's taken broadly out of context, and stretched to mean something it clearly ...
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