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by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:53 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Cekoviu wrote:Not necessarily, but I'm interested in your rationale for believing rhetoric can't be evidence.


Evidence is based on empirical observation. Rhetoric is a branch of linguistics. They are unrelated.
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:41 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Conserative Morality wrote:Yes, I would think that a college professor would be able to parse simple English sentences. I suppose I was wrong, and standards have declined since I was in college. A shame, really.


I immediately edited that statement to give you the benefit of the doubt. You are quoting my first draft.
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:37 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Oh? Where did I say academics were irrelevant? I thought you lot weren't all Marxists and leftists? Funny how quickly your views change when it becomes convenient to your argument. =^) Here is what you wrote: You know, for someone who claims that academia is not filled with leftists, you don't seem...
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:34 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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It does now. Seriously, though, college makes people leftists. Getting a higher education tends to make people tolerant, less traditional, and more open other views. I would interpret that as liberal or progressive, not necessarily leftist (though leftists should also be tolerant, critical of tradi...
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:30 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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How many studies, do you think, have been done on the matter of how many self-professed Marxists, Communists, Socialists, or Leftists fully understand the material they champion? You know, for someone who claims that academia is not filled with leftists, you don't seem to comprehend how fringe and ...
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:29 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Cekoviu wrote:Rhetoric = evidence, prove me wrong.


Huh? You actually believe that empirical evidence is rhetoric?
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:28 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Well, I think the stereotype was mostly informed by sociologists and some other social sciences and humanities. But the vast majority of my professors, at least the ones who've expressed any sort of political views, were socially liberal at the least. Especially in biology. I am basing what I wrote...
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:23 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Every ideologue must come to terms with the fact that most people on their side will never be as rigorous as they are, regardless of what ideology they follow. But sure, you leftists are the exception; I am sure you will all be brilliant academic warriors fighting for The Party. =^) That is rhetori...
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:21 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Geneviev wrote:UCLA. Every UC. Mostly UCLA.

Also, UC absolutely represents most of American academia.


Um. Actually, it doesn't.
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:16 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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No, education does not make a person more left-wing. It is just that Leftists are trying to maintain absolute control over humanities and social science faculties at the expense of conservative intellectuals and replace education with indoctrination. In my field (sociology), we call what right-wing...
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:10 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Um, what?? The vast majority of my professors in a state that Trump won by 20 points have been liberal or moderate. Social science (with the exception of economics, for instance) and humanities professors are more likely to be liberal or moderate, as you say, than professors in the agricultural sch...
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:06 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Generally. A lot of conservative ideology is based on traditionalism without evidence, whereas liberals and leftists prefer to half-read secondhand pop-culture interpretations of academic reports. Going to institutions of higher education tend to tear down the former more than the latter. Leftists ...
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:03 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Painisia wrote:I cannot wait going to university, studying social sciences and politics. But does one become more left-aligned, the more educated he is?


More educated people tend to be more tolerant and more left of center than the general population (based on polling and survey data).
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:02 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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And now academia is bad. I love sociology. It is a great field of study. I wish most of academia had as many leftists (particularly libertarian communists as someone else pointed out). History varies. It depends on the department. With economics, only a tiny number are not proponents of classical e...
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:54 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Mattopilos II wrote:Depends on the field, the university, the country....


What I said is true for most colleges and universities in the U.S. Yes, some fields tend to attract Leftists (post-1968 sociology in particular), but most of American academia is rather conservative.
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:38 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Society considers it expected and even natural that professors be leftists. You're no radical: you're just following a script. I have been teaching at the college and university level since 1980 (as a TA) and a full-time professor since 1985. What society expects is irrelevant. Most of academia, de...
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:54 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Northern Davincia wrote:Nonsense. The US constitution, if one were to follow it literally, stops authoritarianism dead in its tracks.


As commanded in the holy writ. :rofl:
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:53 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Rostavykhan wrote:I've seen Libertarians in general go the Authoritarian route when it comes to people they dislike, TBF.


Anyone, anyone, can occasionally become a bit authoritarian when one is angry. It is called, um, anger. However, that is different from being an authoritarian.
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:18 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Cekoviu wrote:he's a rightlib, what did you expect? :^)


The line is much thinner than one would expect by the supposed difference in ideology.
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:00 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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The Parkus Empire wrote:Fascism gets more sympathy from him than a crippled kitten when there's a choice between it and communism.


How is being a fascist sympathizer, under any circumstances, any different from being a fascist? I mean, if you are sympathetic to something, you believe in it, right?
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:57 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Valgora wrote:The IWW?


The IWW is tiny - really tiny. The largest union in the U.S. is the NEA. My father was a union leader in the now-defunct Distributive Workers Union (District 65).

Marx was also a union organizer.
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:53 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Northern Davincia wrote:Please don't make me miss Franco.


I didn't know you were a fascist or a fascist-sympathizer.
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:51 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Cekoviu wrote:So... how about those trade unions? Don't you just love 'em?


My family was a union family, and I belong to the largest union in the U.S.
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:48 pm
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
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Torrocca wrote:The class struggle is a socioeconomic issue and by necessity requires intersectionality.


Precisely.
by The Multiversal Communist Collective
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:40 am
 
Forum: General
Topic: LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan
Replies: 7020
Views: 55372

Why not? As long as you can pass reforms, you can reform the entire system piece by piece. All it takes is making it so that you can make a change, and patience. If the system doesn't allow even that, then feel free to change it outside of the system. But destroying it entirely results in anarchy, ...
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