by New Celisia » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:25 pm
by Settrah » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:37 pm
by Trotskylvania » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:37 pm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Ultra - The Left Wing of the Impossible
Putting the '-sadism' in PosadismKarl Marx, Wage Labour and Capital
Anton Pannekoek, World Revolution and Communist Tactics
Amadeo Bordiga, Dialogue With Stalin
Nikolai Bukharin, The ABC of Communism
Gilles Dauvé, When Insurrections Die"The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that the firm has a boss."- Bordiga
by Alvecia » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:42 pm
by The Irish County of the Beare-Mor » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:44 pm
by Saiwania » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:46 pm
by Ifreann » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:47 pm
by Diopolis » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:00 pm
by Genivaria » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:01 pm
Alvecia wrote:I'm absolutely against any genital surgery until the person getting the surgery if of consenting age, but as I understand it there are actually some medical benefits to circumcision, whereas FGM has little to none, so comparing the two is actually something of a false equivalence
by Community Values » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:02 pm
Diopolis wrote:I am absolutely opposed to elective circumcision. I think infant circumcision should be illegal in the absence of valid medical reasons. It absolutely is mutilation.
But at the same time, it's nothing compared to female genital mutilation in Sudan or wherever, and it's asinine to claim the two are equivalent. Yes, I curse my circumcision routinely. But the thing still works, and it wouldn't were I a Sudanese woman.
Awkward phrasing, but you get the picture.
by Diopolis » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:04 pm
Community Values wrote:Diopolis wrote:I am absolutely opposed to elective circumcision. I think infant circumcision should be illegal in the absence of valid medical reasons. It absolutely is mutilation.
But at the same time, it's nothing compared to female genital mutilation in Sudan or wherever, and it's asinine to claim the two are equivalent. Yes, I curse my circumcision routinely. But the thing still works, and it wouldn't were I a Sudanese woman.
Awkward phrasing, but you get the picture.
I shouldn't be allowed to "mutilate" myself, even when it harms no one else?
Are you sure?
by Socialist Nordia » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:17 pm
by Risottia » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:26 pm
New Celisia wrote:Today I finished a issue on NS that brought this to my direct attention. The issue gave me several options detailing the specifics of male circumcision within my nation, I chose the option that allowed the procedure on consenting adults and those who need it for a medical reason. Yet I noticed that my Civil Rights index fell sharply due to my decision. It made me think, "Why is there such an outcry against female genital mutilation in third world countries, yet these same individuals who claim to be egalitarians hardly blink an eye when it comes to circumcision in the first world."
by Risottia » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:28 pm
by The Princes of the Universe » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:29 pm
by Republic of Greater Cuba » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:33 pm
The Princes of the Universe wrote:If your kid can take a piss without a problem, leave it the fuck alone. This isn't fucking rocket science.
by Genivaria » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:40 pm
Risottia wrote:New Celisia wrote:Today I finished a issue on NS that brought this to my direct attention. The issue gave me several options detailing the specifics of male circumcision within my nation, I chose the option that allowed the procedure on consenting adults and those who need it for a medical reason. Yet I noticed that my Civil Rights index fell sharply due to my decision. It made me think, "Why is there such an outcry against female genital mutilation in third world countries, yet these same individuals who claim to be egalitarians hardly blink an eye when it comes to circumcision in the first world."
Wait.
US =/= the "first world". Take Germany and the circumcision row of some years ago - widely debated on NS too.
by Settrah » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:43 pm
by Kubumba Tribe » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:44 pm
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.
by Nazeroth » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:45 pm
by Settrah » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:47 pm
by Kubumba Tribe » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:48 pm
Nazeroth wrote:circumcision isn't bad, a lot of people actually like having it...I know I do
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.
by Ipland » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:48 pm
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Male circumcision is fine.
Also, since there's a way to cut the tip (apologies for the vulgar language, I don't know the correct term) of the penis without messing the whole genitals up entirely, is there a way to do so for females, or not?
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