What if China totally withdrew its support to North Korea?

[Kergstan]

This move how would favor or/and harm China?
And more importantly, in your opinion, how would this change DPRK, What would be the economical change to north korea and would DPRK change its hostile policy?

[Memovia]

They support North Korea for a reason.If war breaks out and South Korean forces win,China would have a border with a country that has USA troops stationed.They don't want that.

[Khadgar]

Best Korea would collapse within six months. They'd probably attempt to invade South Korea before the end.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Best Korea would collapse within six months. They'd probably attempt to invade South Korea before the end.

10 million artillery shells blast into Seoul from the DMZ, refugee crisis erupts in East Asia and nobody does anything about it except use them as target practice.
No wonder SK is so nervous about reunification. It'll be a shitpile they're reunifying with.

[Germanic Templars]

They support North Korea for a reason.If war breaks out and South Korean forces win,China would have a border with a country that has USA troops stationed.They don't want that.

I say then we create a 4 mile DMZ to include expanding the Yalu river to boarder all of the north of Korea. Evens it out to I say.

Then again it doesn't help them since they have a lot of new "friends" around them that they made in recent years so a small DMZ wont help much.

Still, assuming they don't mind their Korean neighbor gets annexed by ROK for whatever reason, then I say it might favor them to a degree by removing a tumor and maybe making a land-trade route possible.

[Lady Scylla]

Considering the North depends on China, the country would collapse under food riots and famine. China also loses a buffer state from the US.

[The Grim Reaper]

24 million refugees heading either north or south.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

With no more threat via China, ether Korea reunites peacefully or they (NK) do something stupid and NATO steps in.

South Korea takes the North, and becomes Korea.

[Commonwealth of Hank the Cat]

Best Korea would collapse within six months. They'd probably attempt to invade South Korea before the end.

10 million artillery shells blast into Pyongyang from the DMZ, refugee crisis erupts in East Asia and nobody does anything about it except use them as target practice.
No wonder SK is so nervous about reunification. It'll be a shitpile they're reunifying with.

Fixed that for you.

[Saiwania]

China has in a way, abandoned North Korea because the DPRK's leadership decisions are a minor embarrassment which damages China's prestige as a rising regional superpower. China still doesn't want their buffer state to collapse however, they are sending up minimal support to prop them up but otherwise want them contained and out of the way.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

10 million artillery shells blast into Pyongyang from the DMZ, refugee crisis erupts in East Asia and nobody does anything about it except use them as target practice.
No wonder SK is so nervous about reunification. It'll be a shitpile they're reunifying with.

Fixed that for you.

Thanks.

[Kergstan]

In my opinion the reason nr. 1 for China is the influx of refugees that would go to China from northern areas, probably as much as 5 mln people would migrate to China if not more.

The buffer zone yes is a good reason to support Dprk but i don't think it is so important for China as many believe.

The profit for China would be mostly economic, as western countries did with Albania and other former communist countries of eastern europe, china would force the collapsed DPRK to accept decade long contracts putting minerals extraction and services in their hands and with the unification, South korean government would make north korean economy a bit better with pre-studied plans probably similar to those applied in Italy like hiring public employees from poorer areas only and those would be also a good thing for China too, not to devaluate is the fact that China-Seoul relations are improving.

[Commonwealth of Hank the Cat]

Fixed that for you.

Thanks.

It's not a joke, South Korea's military would annilate the North.

I'm not saying the South wouldn't suffer damage, but it would not be total destruction of Seoul. That place is a military fortress. The people would evacuate into the subway systems.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Thanks.

It's not a joke, South Korea's military would annilate the North.

I'm not saying the South wouldn't suffer damage, but it would not be total destruction of Seoul. That place is a military fortress. The people would evacuate into the subway systems.

I know the South would kick Best KPA back to the shitholes they were camped in in 1950 before the Chinese intervention, yeah. They're pretty badass nowadays.
Though I didn't know that Seoul was so fortified. I imagined most of the defense would be up north of the city, not within the city itself. And the evacuation to the subways reminds me of what happened in Berlin in '45.

[CITY18]

Thanks.

It's not a joke, South Korea's military would annilate the North.

I'm not saying the South wouldn't suffer damage, but it would not be total destruction of Seoul. That place is a military fortress. The people would evacuate into the subway systems.

Same for Pyongyang when it to civilian evacuation, I remember watching a documentary on how they have evacuation tunnels and evacuation plans if an attack or retaliation occurs. Unless that has changed which I highly doubt

[Commonwealth of Hank the Cat]

It's not a joke, South Korea's military would annilate the North.

I'm not saying the South wouldn't suffer damage, but it would not be total destruction of Seoul. That place is a military fortress. The people would evacuate into the subway systems.

I know the South would kick Best KPA back to the shitholes they were camped in in 1950 before the Chinese intervention, yeah. They're pretty badass nowadays.
Though I didn't know that Seoul was so fortified. I imagined most of the defense would be up north of the city, not within the city itself. And the evacuation to the subways reminds me of what happened in Berlin in '45.

I watched a documentary that Seoul is a military citadel. It's very well-fortified.

[Quokkastan]

Thanks.

It's not a joke, South Korea's military would annilate the North.

I'm not saying the South wouldn't suffer damage, but it would not be total destruction of Seoul. That place is a military fortress. The people would evacuate into the subway systems.

It's not a "fortress" in the sense that it would stand up very well to artillery. You're right that the S. Korean military is generally superior to the North, but the North has enough conventional artillery positioned within range of Seoul that there's just no way they could all be destroyed before a large portion of the city is.

A big part of the reason why everyone is rather reluctant to go to war with North Korea is that they're essentially holding the population of that city hostage.

[Gauthier]

They support North Korea for a reason.If war breaks out and South Korean forces win,China would have a border with a country that has USA troops stationed.They don't want that.

They'd want the flood of Best Korean refugees even less.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

So much heresy in this thread. Clearly, without China dragging it down, North Korea would soar, rising like the mighty phoenix it is to become not only Best Korea, but Best Country.

[Nusaresa]

I'd be celebrating.

[Risottia]

This move how would favor or/and harm China?

Would harm China.
Having a ferocious dog firmly at your leash is generally a useful tool.

Arso Best Korea needs no Chinese capitarist pig-dogs! Got nucrear missire! Best Korea stronk!

[New Rogernomics]

Economic collapse, and millions of refugees to feed and educate.

So a humanitarian catastrophe for China and South Korea.

Harsh truth is that neither country wants North Korea to collapse, least they be forced to deal with millions of people.

[Pandeeria]

This move how would favor or/and harm China?

Would harm China.
Having a ferocious dog firmly at your leash is generally a useful tool.

Arso Best Korea needs no Chinese capitarist pig-dogs! Got nucrear missire! Best Korea stronk!

The issue with that is North Korea is being more of a pain in the ass than what they'd doing for China, and China as of late has been distancing themselves from North Korea.

[Gauthier]

Would harm China.
Having a ferocious dog firmly at your leash is generally a useful tool.

Arso Best Korea needs no Chinese capitarist pig-dogs! Got nucrear missire! Best Korea stronk!

The issue with that is North Korea is being more of a pain in the ass than what they'd doing for China, and China as of late has been distancing themselves from North Korea.

Only reason they don't leave Best Korea hanging is they don't want the box store bundle of Best Korean refugees plowing through their borders and the U.S. being in a good position for surprise buttsecks.

[Rio Cana]

It's not a joke, South Korea's military would annilate the North.

I'm not saying the South wouldn't suffer damage, but it would not be total destruction of Seoul. That place is a military fortress. The people would evacuate into the subway systems.

I know the South would kick Best KPA back to the shitholes they were camped in in 1950 before the Chinese intervention, yeah. They're pretty badass nowadays.
Though I didn't know that Seoul was so fortified. I imagined most of the defense would be up north of the city, not within the city itself. And the evacuation to the subways reminds me of what happened in Berlin in '45.

Are you 100% sure about that. SK. does have modern tech. but so does NK. when it comes to missile tech. They are way ahead of SK. in missile tech. Wars are usually won by the infantry. SK. infantry while more then likely would defeat any NK. forces inside SK., chances are they would not be able to do the same inside of NK. US soldiers who fought in the Korean war recommend not tangling with NK.

You need to understand that after the Japanese 35 year occupation of Korea, both Korea's have made sure that it does not happen again,