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Do you think Stephan Hawkings is right?

Yes.
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Yes, he is right, emperor protects.
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Quite possibly
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Not enough evidence
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No. Aliens are likely to be more evolved than us being more susceptible to reason
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No. The aliens will be saviors to humanity. Long live our alien overlords.
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Stephen Hawking warns we should 'be wary' about aliens

Postby Socialist Tera » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:10 am

Stephen Hawking warns we should 'be wary' about answering alien signals, and suggests an advanced civilization could attempt to colonize Earth
'Gazing at the stars I always imagined there was someone up there looking back', Hawking says during the film, titled ‘Stephen Hawking’s Favorite Places'.

'As I grow older I am more convinced than ever that we are not alone.'

'After a lifetime of wondering, I am helping to lead a new global effort to find out'.

'The Breakthrough Listen project will scan the nearest million stars for signs of life, but I know just the place to start looking.'

‘One day we might receive a signal from a planet like Gliese 832c, but we should be wary of answering back.’

CuriosityStream, a multiplatform for on-demand nonfiction documentaries, introduced the exclusive 25 minute film, which takes viewers on a personal journey through space and time exploring the wonders of the universe.


After visiting the deep super massive black hole, Sagittarius A*, Hawking travels to Gliese 832c, which he says is the most Earth-like exo-planet in the universe and the best place for potential extraterrestrial life.

‘In recent years, we have found thousands of planets outside our solar system’, Hawking says during the film.

Sources: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... Earth.html
https://www.rt.com/viral/360446-aliens- ... h-hawking/

Do you think Stephan Hawkings is right? I think there is enough of a basis to make a good argument that aliens are quite possibly dangerous to humanities future, we should be wary if we come in contact of aliens, we are horrible to other species so I wouldn't be surprised if aliens are horrible to other species as well.
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Postby Vanquaria » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:21 am

If the aliens have mastered the technology to travel all the way to Earth we are pretty much in the shoes of the native American Indians when the Europeans came to their lands. We massacred each other throughout our history then a technologically superior force (aliens) arrive to make us their dog

Therefore I agree with Hawking, if aliens do indeed exist we should be VERY wary. Safest thing to do is not even respond back if they message us until we are 100% which is practically impossible. Therefore contacting aliens? No Discovering if there is life outside our planet? Yes
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Postby Risottia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:22 am

Socialist Tera wrote:Do you think Stephan Hawkings is right?


Well let's see what's out there:
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We'd better start funding the UNIT.

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More seriously: yes, we should be wary about aliens. I think the best way of "being wary" would be building an interception system powerful enough to divert or destroy asteroids - if it can kill an asteroid it can kill a spaceship.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:29 am

Stephen Hawking? Don't you mean Giorgio Tsoukalos?
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:29 am

Risottia wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:Do you think Stephan Hawkings is right?


Well let's see what's out there:
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Image

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We'd better start funding the UNIT.

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More seriously: yes, we should be wary about aliens. I think the best way of "being wary" would be building an interception system powerful enough to divert or destroy asteroids - if it can kill an asteroid it can kill a spaceship.


So like the torchwood London laser?

And the Auster Hargan key might be a good deterrent.
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Postby Vanquaria » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:33 am

Risottia wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:Do you think Stephan Hawkings is right?


Well let's see what's out there:
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Image

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We'd better start funding the UNIT.

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More seriously: yes, we should be wary about aliens. I think the best way of "being wary" would be building an interception system powerful enough to divert or destroy asteroids - if it can kill an asteroid it can kill a spaceship.


And then you realise that if the aliens are advanced enough to travel the stars with ease they would have no problem dealing with a bunch of primates that do not even possess the technology to explore the deepest depths of their oceans effectively
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Postby Risottia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:34 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:So like the torchwood London laser?

Yeah, sorta, although such a laser fired from Earth has to cross the atmosphere, losing power in the process and setting our precious air ablaze, which isn't exactly lovely. I was thinking more of a Moon base armed with a lot of missiles. And maybe a giant *airquote* laser *airquote*. We will call that base the *airquote* "Death Star" *airquote*.
And the Auster Hargan key might be a good deterrent.

Osterhagen I think, but yeah, it's a hell of a deterrent. If feasible, though, which I don't think it is.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:36 am

I certainly believe that any alien species we encounter will make attempts to settle on Earth or be harmful in some way to humanity's collective interests. And we should always have a plan should they turn hostile or threaten our existence. I think we should look to colonizing our own solar system and constantly updating our technology first, so we will be ready should they come here like how the Europeans came to the Americas. This is our solar system. Here, humanity comes first.

Vanquaria wrote:If the aliens have mastered the technology to travel all the way to Earth we are pretty much in the shoes of the native American Indians when the Europeans came to their lands. We massacred each other throughout our history then a technologically superior force (aliens) arrive to make us their dog

Therefore I agree with Hawking, if aliens do indeed exist we should be VERY wary. Safest thing to do is not even respond back if they message us until we are 100% which is practically impossible. Therefore contacting aliens? No Discovering if there is life outside our planet? Yes

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Postby Risottia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:37 am

Vanquaria wrote:And then you realise that if the aliens are advanced enough to travel the stars with ease they would have no problem dealing with a bunch of primates that do not even possess the technology to explore the deepest depths of their oceans effectively


Dealing with naked primates is a thing.
Dealing with the X-rays of a megaton-range warhead blasting a couple of km away from your spaceship is another.
Dealing with the focused gamma rays from the wiggler of a free-electron laser is even worse.
Not to mention dealing with a cloud of shrapnel travelling at some 20 km per second, which can be done rather easily.
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Postby Taviana SSR » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:39 am

We should not fear aliens, unless they are filthy capitalists. If they are capitalists, we should send them to space gulag. If they are glorious space communists, then they are honored comrades and we should destroy the USA with them.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:40 am

Risottia wrote:
Vanquaria wrote:And then you realise that if the aliens are advanced enough to travel the stars with ease they would have no problem dealing with a bunch of primates that do not even possess the technology to explore the deepest depths of their oceans effectively


Dealing with naked primates is a thing.
Dealing with the X-rays of a megaton-range warhead blasting a couple of km away from your spaceship is another.
Dealing with the focused gamma rays from the wiggler of a free-electron laser is even worse.
Not to mention dealing with a cloud of shrapnel travelling at some 20 km per second, which can be done rather easily.

You forgot to mention humanity's chemical weapons. They might actually affect alien bodies more than human ones, but I guess we'll have to wait and see if that holds up to the truth.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:40 am

Taviana SSR wrote:We should not fear aliens, unless they are filthy capitalists. If they are capitalists, we should send them to space gulag. If they are glorious space communists, then they are honored comrades and we should destroy the USA with them.


TFW someone assumes space aliens would be sympathetic to their cause and not see them as chump pawns.
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Postby Elepis » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:41 am

maybe we are the most advanced out there, the others maybe be still in the equivalent of Rome, Middle Ages or the Renaissance
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:42 am

Risottia wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:So like the torchwood London laser?

Yeah, sorta, although such a laser fired from Earth has to cross the atmosphere, losing power in the process and setting our precious air ablaze, which isn't exactly lovely. I was thinking more of a Moon base armed with a lot of missiles. And maybe a giant *airquote* laser *airquote*. We will call that base the *airquote* "Death Star" *airquote*.


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Risottia wrote:Osterhagen I think, but yeah, it's a hell of a deterrent. If feasible, though, which I don't think it is.


We could try putting nukes in various super-volcanoes like Yellowstone. Or develop the T-virus.
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Postby Risottia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:42 am

The Islands of Versilia wrote:You forgot to mention humanity's chemical weapons. They might actually affect alien bodies more than human ones, but I guess we'll have to wait and see if that holds up to the truth.

I'd prefer a space defence. Much less likely to fuck up the only environment we use to survive.
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Taviana SSR wrote:We should not fear aliens, unless they are filthy capitalists. If they are capitalists, we should send them to space gulag. If they are glorious space communists, then they are honored comrades and we should destroy the USA with them.

As much as I dislike the USA's government, it would be best for it to not be destroyed. What's stopping the aliens from enslaving us all when the smoke clears?
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:42 am

Risottia wrote:
The Islands of Versilia wrote:You forgot to mention humanity's chemical weapons. They might actually affect alien bodies more than human ones, but I guess we'll have to wait and see if that holds up to the truth.

I'd prefer a space defence. Much less likely to fuck up the only environment we use to survive.

I concur. They would just be a last resort.
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The Islands of Versilia wrote:
Taviana SSR wrote:We should not fear aliens, unless they are filthy capitalists. If they are capitalists, we should send them to space gulag. If they are glorious space communists, then they are honored comrades and we should destroy the USA with them.

As much as I dislike the USA's government, it would be best for it to not be destroyed. What's stopping the aliens from enslaving us all when the smoke clears?


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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:43 am

Elepis wrote:maybe we are the most advanced out there, the others maybe be still in the equivalent of Rome, Middle Ages or the Renaissance

It's a possibility.
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Postby Risottia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:44 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:We could try putting nukes in various super-volcanoes like Yellowstone.

That would make the Earth uninhabitable to us, not necessarily useless to an invader. And for sure it wouldn't shatter the whole planet, which at 6*1024 kg of rock, is rather massive.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:44 am

Gauthier wrote:
The Islands of Versilia wrote:As much as I dislike the USA's government, it would be best for it to not be destroyed. What's stopping the aliens from enslaving us all when the smoke clears?


Apparently an original copy of Das Kapital.

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Postby Elepis » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:45 am

The Islands of Versilia wrote:
Elepis wrote:maybe we are the most advanced out there, the others maybe be still in the equivalent of Rome, Middle Ages or the Renaissance

It's a possibility.


Then we can exter-miiiiiin-aaaaate them
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Postby Taviana SSR » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:46 am

The Islands of Versilia wrote:
Taviana SSR wrote:We should not fear aliens, unless they are filthy capitalists. If they are capitalists, we should send them to space gulag. If they are glorious space communists, then they are honored comrades and we should destroy the USA with them.

As much as I dislike the USA's government, it would be best for it to not be destroyed. What's stopping the aliens from enslaving us all when the smoke clears?


If they are true space internationalists, they will not even have a concept of enslaving others. If, on the other hand, they turn out to be social-imperialists, the combined might of the peasants and workers under a revolutionary vanguard will crush them!
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Postby Elepis » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:46 am

Doctor Who did have many (3 ?) inter galatic human empires after all
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:47 am

Elepis wrote:
The Islands of Versilia wrote:It's a possibility.


Then we can exter-miiiiiin-aaaaate them

No, we must integrate them into our culture. If we go all crusades on them, they'll hate us and it'll give them a reason to fight us. We must slowly assimilate them.
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