by New Edom » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:58 am
by Socialist Nordia » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:01 am
by New Edom » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:02 am
Socialist Nordia wrote:What is it with you and feminism? You make thread after thread about it.
by Frenline Delpha » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:08 am
by The first Galactic Republic » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:09 am
Socialist Nordia wrote:What is it with you and feminism? You make thread after thread about it.
by The New Sea Territory » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:11 am
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"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore
by Imperializt Russia » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:12 am
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Frenline Delpha » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:12 am
The New Sea Territory wrote:Another feminist thread!
Yes, you do. Just like you have to be an anti-capitalist to be an egalitarian (although not all anti-capitalists or feminists are so).
by The New Sea Territory » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:13 am
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Solntsa Roshcha --- Postmodern Poyltheist
"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore
by Equalaria » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:14 am
by Frenline Delpha » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:15 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:A friend of mine once told me that he considers himself what "feminists want to be", which is an egalitarian.
He also rejected the notions of patriotism or reverent national pride, so he clearly believes himself to be an egalitarian, quite deeply.
This made me more sure than ever that many arguments against feminism by people who ascribe to ideals that feminism also holds, are fundamentally based in a poor branding of "feminism".
Which is kind of sad, really.
by Frenline Delpha » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:15 am
by Frenline Delpha » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:16 am
Equalaria wrote:Feminism is all about equality. The male power structures of the past were predicated on domination, exploitation and forced subservience of women. Feminism espouses true equality by first righting these wrongs via empowerment of women. Through this, we can have true equality by destroying the broken and virulent system of patriarchy, in favor of a feminist idealology of fairness for all.
by Chessmistress » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:18 am
If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality. - Desmond Tutu
by Community Values » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:18 am
by Imperializt Russia » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:20 am
Frenline Delpha wrote:Imperializt Russia wrote:A friend of mine once told me that he considers himself what "feminists want to be", which is an egalitarian.
He also rejected the notions of patriotism or reverent national pride, so he clearly believes himself to be an egalitarian, quite deeply.
This made me more sure than ever that many arguments against feminism by people who ascribe to ideals that feminism also holds, are fundamentally based in a poor branding of "feminism".
Which is kind of sad, really.
Then get your movement under control. Weed out the bad apples (of which there are MANY) and appoint sensible leaders for the movement. Until that happens, feminism will continue to look unappealing to 77% of women and 84% of men.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Socialist Tera » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:20 am
Frenline Delpha wrote:Imperializt Russia wrote:A friend of mine once told me that he considers himself what "feminists want to be", which is an egalitarian.
He also rejected the notions of patriotism or reverent national pride, so he clearly believes himself to be an egalitarian, quite deeply.
This made me more sure than ever that many arguments against feminism by people who ascribe to ideals that feminism also holds, are fundamentally based in a poor branding of "feminism".
Which is kind of sad, really.
Then get your movement under control. Weed out the bad apples (of which there are MANY) and appoint sensible leaders for the movement. Until that happens, feminism will continue to look unappealing to 77% of women and 84% of men.
by Equalaria » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:20 am
Frenline Delpha wrote:Equalaria wrote:Feminism is all about equality. The male power structures of the past were predicated on domination, exploitation and forced subservience of women. Feminism espouses true equality by first righting these wrongs via empowerment of women. Through this, we can have true equality by destroying the broken and virulent system of patriarchy, in favor of a feminist idealology of fairness for all.
Fairness for all those male rape victims? Or do those not count?
by Frenline Delpha » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:21 am
by Bogdanov Vishniac » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:22 am
New Edom wrote: However the current dominant form of feminism is 3rd Wave Intersectional Feminism, which proposes the idea that a society's inequalities come from a general approach to authority and leadership called the patriarchy. This used to just mean a society that was led by men, but it has come to mean more than that.
by Frenline Delpha » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:22 am
Socialist Tera wrote:I support feminists and I am an ally but I can never be a feminist cause I am a male.Frenline Delpha wrote:Then get your movement under control. Weed out the bad apples (of which there are MANY) and appoint sensible leaders for the movement. Until that happens, feminism will continue to look unappealing to 77% of women and 84% of men.
Citations needed.
by Socialist Tera » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:22 am
Equalaria wrote:Frenline Delpha wrote:Fairness for all those male rape victims? Or do those not count?
This issue was discussed at length already. Male rape victims are incarcerated, they committed crimes. Women are raped at higher rates, for doing nothing more than trying to exist. The equality comes in saying that women should not be raped at such astronomical rates, something that is given blessing by patriarchy and by extension, traditional male-centric thinking.
Frenline Delpha wrote:Socialist Tera wrote:I support feminists and I am an ally but I can never be a feminist cause I am a male.
Citations needed.
That s at the end if funny. Here is one for you: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sens ... feminists/
by Frenline Delpha » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:23 am
Equalaria wrote:Frenline Delpha wrote:Fairness for all those male rape victims? Or do those not count?
This issue was discussed at length already. Male rape victims are incarcerated, they committed crimes. Women are raped at higher rates, for doing nothing more than trying to exist. The equality comes in saying that women should not be raped at such astronomical rates, something that is given blessing by patriarchy and by extension, traditional male-centric thinking.
by Imperializt Russia » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:23 am
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Community Values » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:23 am
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