by New Edom » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:12 am
by Dubnia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:21 am
by The Romulan Republic » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:24 am
by Alvecia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:26 am
The Romulan Republic wrote:Yes, in the sense that their are cultural attitudes/groups that condone, trivialize, or turn a blind eye toward rape.
However, they are not the entirety of our current culture, and I'm not convinced they're the majority, though that may be just idealism/optimism speaking.
So, bottom line, rape culture exists, but some people overestimate its prominence somewhat.
by Socialist Tera » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:31 am
by Socialist Tera » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:34 am
Dubnia wrote:One of the best videos I've seen on the topic is this one. It discusses the oft-used 1-in-5/1-in-4 women sexually assaulted or abused at college. One of the most important conclusions from the video is that it shows that the study most regularly used to back up the statistic was not conducted in a way that could be construed to mean that 25% of women are raped or sexually assaulted in college. Rape culture is simply another way feminists can feel self-righteous about themselves against "evil" men. It why California now has "yes means yes" instead of "no means no" laws, demonizing almost all men. It's why Rolling Stone destroyed the lives of UVA students who have to live with the stigma of being convicted of rape in the court of public opinion despite never doing anything of that nature even remotely. Rape culture is a lie and a dangerous one. As long as it exists, real rapists can feel safer because when everyone cries rape, the real cases get lost in the white noise.
by Jumalariik » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:36 am
by Hirota » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:37 am
by Minzerland » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:39 am
by Dubnia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:39 am
The Romulan Republic wrote:Yes, in the sense that their are cultural attitudes/groups that condone, trivialize, or turn a blind eye toward rape.
However, they are not the entirety of our current culture, and I'm not convinced they're the majority, though that may be just idealism/optimism speaking.
So, bottom line, rape culture exists, but some people overestimate its prominence somewhat.
by Jumalariik » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:40 am
by The Romulan Republic » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:43 am
by Minzerland » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:46 am
Socialist Tera wrote:Dubnia wrote:One of the best videos I've seen on the topic is this one. It discusses the oft-used 1-in-5/1-in-4 women sexually assaulted or abused at college. One of the most important conclusions from the video is that it shows that the study most regularly used to back up the statistic was not conducted in a way that could be construed to mean that 25% of women are raped or sexually assaulted in college. Rape culture is simply another way feminists can feel self-righteous about themselves against "evil" men. It why California now has "yes means yes" instead of "no means no" laws, demonizing almost all men. It's why Rolling Stone destroyed the lives of UVA students who have to live with the stigma of being convicted of rape in the court of public opinion despite never doing anything of that nature even remotely. Rape culture is a lie and a dangerous one. As long as it exists, real rapists can feel safer because when everyone cries rape, the real cases get lost in the white noise.
Sorry but I find that video a bit short. I think that shorter video are not methodologically sound, for example Sargon does not read sources correctly.
by New Edom » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:46 am
Socialist Tera wrote:I'd like to think it's nonsense but there is too much data to suggest otherwise, the problem is that all the data is done on females and we need to look at males as well, plus the social implications on females. We need to more data for prevention and action rather than putting our heads in the sand about it.
Relevant video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekq3OLRz1ls
by Greater Narkova » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:49 am
by Dubnia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:49 am
Socialist Tera wrote:Dubnia wrote:One of the best videos I've seen on the topic is this one. It discusses the oft-used 1-in-5/1-in-4 women sexually assaulted or abused at college. One of the most important conclusions from the video is that it shows that the study most regularly used to back up the statistic was not conducted in a way that could be construed to mean that 25% of women are raped or sexually assaulted in college. Rape culture is simply another way feminists can feel self-righteous about themselves against "evil" men. It why California now has "yes means yes" instead of "no means no" laws, demonizing almost all men. It's why Rolling Stone destroyed the lives of UVA students who have to live with the stigma of being convicted of rape in the court of public opinion despite never doing anything of that nature even remotely. Rape culture is a lie and a dangerous one. As long as it exists, real rapists can feel safer because when everyone cries rape, the real cases get lost in the white noise.
Sorry but I find that video a bit short. I think that shorter video are not methodologically sound, for example Sargon does not read sources correctly.
by New Edom » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:51 am
Dubnia wrote:One of the best videos I've seen on the topic is this one. It discusses the oft-used 1-in-5/1-in-4 women sexually assaulted or abused at college. One of the most important conclusions from the video is that it shows that the study most regularly used to back up the statistic was not conducted in a way that could be construed to mean that 25% of women are raped or sexually assaulted in college. Rape culture is simply another way feminists can feel self-righteous about themselves against "evil" men. It why California now has "yes means yes" instead of "no means no" laws, demonizing almost all men. It's why Rolling Stone destroyed the lives of UVA students who have to live with the stigma of being convicted of rape in the court of public opinion despite never doing anything of that nature even remotely. Rape culture is a lie and a dangerous one. As long as it exists, real rapists can feel safer because when everyone cries rape, the real cases get lost in the white noise.
by New Edom » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:53 am
Greater Narkova wrote:Actually this is more true in midevel and early renaissance Europe, than it is today
by Socialist Tera » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:53 am
Dubnia wrote:Socialist Tera wrote:Sorry but I find that video a bit short. I think that shorter video are not methodologically sound, for example Sargon does not read sources correctly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvkZ9JKGoSY
https://pjmedia.com/blog/who-is-really- ... e-culture/
https://pjmedia.com/blog/the-stanford-rape-trial/
https://pjmedia.com/blog/when-a-culture-unmans-itself/
http://www.dailywire.com/news/5130/guy- ... stigiacomo
http://www.dailywire.com/news/4846/kitc ... on-bandler
http://www.dailywire.com/news/6652/stud ... stigiacomo
http://louderwithcrowder.com/amy-schume ... e-culture/
http://louderwithcrowder.com/channin-ta ... e-culture/
http://louderwithcrowder.com/lena-dunha ... ape-story/
http://louderwithcrowder.com/thats-so-r ... e-culture/
I have actual studies as well in addition to these arguments.
by Yuropah » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:55 am
by New Edom » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:58 am
Hirota wrote:If rape culture is defined as "which rape is pervasive and normalized due to societal attitudes about gender and sexuality." as per the OP, then I would argue the only rape culture which is permitted in western culture is that of women against boys and men.
While the incident of female on male rape may be an occurrence that happens less often, when it does the men often have no legal recourse.
If thats not the normalisation of rape due to their gender I don't know what is.
by Socialist Federative Slavia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:58 am
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