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Duterte kicks out all presidential appointees in government

Postby Pranovia » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:32 am

I know it's local news, but I feel that it is odd and strange enough to be placed here.
President Rodrigo Duterte on Sunday fired all presidential appointees in government by declaring their posts vacant.
Citing continuing corruption in government “especially in the regulatory agencies,” Duterte told the appointees: “Consider your positions vacant as of this hour.” He spoke at about 2 a.m. during a press conference.

The President noted that corruption was giving “headaches to fellow human beings.”
He stressed that his order included “all” presidential appointees. “It will number in the thousands” all over the country’s bureaucracy.
It was unclear if the order included positions of those he recently appointed and swore into office in Malacañang.
“Until now, in my provincial visits, I still hear corruption being committed,” the Chief Executive said.
He singled out the Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board (LTFRB) and the Land Transportation Organization (LTO).
The President ordered the current head of the LTFRB, lawyer Martin Delgra, to report to him in Malacañang.
Duterte also pointed to the head of the LTO and all presidential appointees in the agency.
He clarified that career officials and employees were not included in the order. CBB/rga


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In another article (http://f.inq.ph/zTzZRXo) the Communications Secretary clarified that only those appointed by past administrations will be removed.

I can say that in my opinion, this is such a bold move and is a clear signal that he is serious in keeping the government clean. I am excited to see more bold moves in the coming days or weeks. This has been the most exciting president I have experienced in my lifetime.

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:35 am

I wouldn't call him exciting. I find him scary and indication of what could happen if Trump is elected. I find it frightening the people of the Philippines actually elected this man President.

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Postby Gauthier » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:37 am

The guy who admires Fred Marcos claiming to fight corruption? Heelarious.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:41 am

Didn't he threaten to leave the UN not long ago? And is essentially waging a literal war on crime?

Dude seems a tad crazy.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:43 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Didn't he threaten to leave the UN not long ago? And is essentially waging a literal war on crime?

Dude seems a tad crazy.


Yes. Its not without reason that he has been referred to as the Trump of the East.
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Postby Kxcd » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:45 am

Will he replace this with an actual spirit of tangibility and not godhood for politicians?
Personally I doubt it since his supporters are maintaining the aura around him.
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Postby Novaya Equestria » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:51 am

I approve of this, but only if he tells all presidential appointees to subject themselves to corruption screening to see if they're corrupt or not.
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Postby Unified Heartless States » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:26 am

Pranovia wrote:What ye say, NSG?

Reminds me of what happened in Poland not to long ago, when the president fired the supreme court and bared them from returning.

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Postby Saiwania » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:34 am

If there are users on here more familiar with the Philippines' politics, I'd like to ask how Duterte is ruling with such an iron fist and seemingly not getting any major push back or obstacles in his way? Does that nation not have strong checks and balances?

I know that if Donald Trump became US president, that he'd never get to do a ton of what he wants because the US congress will at best, be uncooperative. Many in his own party will not like him and he'd almost certainly not get reelected, if not impeached if Trump really tried hard to burn bridges.

Could Duterte become just as, if not more powerful than Ferdinand Marcos was?
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:46 am

Saiwania wrote:I know that if Donald Trump became US president, that he'd never get to do a ton of what he wants because the US congress will at best, be uncooperative. Many in his own party will not like him and he'd almost certainly not get reelected, if not impeached if Trump really tried hard to burn bridges.


Trump has outright stated he would delegate all the serious work to his Vice President, in this case Mike Pence. They'd rubber stamp everything he proposes, like criminalizing gay marriage and slashing welfare.

Could Duterte become just as, if not more powerful than Ferdinand Marcos was?


It would be sad and ironic if people burned under Marcos props up more of the same.
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Postby Great Kauthar » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:40 pm

I love Duterte. He has also threatened to leave the UN: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37147630
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:43 pm

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:Didn't he threaten to leave the UN not long ago? And is essentially waging a literal war on crime?

Dude seems a tad crazy.


Yes. Its not without reason that he has been referred to as the Trump of the East.

He's literally having a war on crime where criminals get killed. I don't even think Trump is that wild.
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Postby Great Kauthar » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:47 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
Yes. Its not without reason that he has been referred to as the Trump of the East.

He's literally having a war on crime where criminals get killed. I don't even think Trump is that wild.

Nothing wrong with that. He made it clear if you were caught dealing drugs you'd get shot. They had the chance to stop, but they didn't.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:49 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:He's literally having a war on crime where criminals get killed. I don't even think Trump is that wild.

Nothing wrong with that. He made it clear if you were caught dealing drugs you'd get shot. They had the chance to stop, but they didn't.


No, he offered bounties for people to randomly play vigilante and conduct extrajudicial executions (i.e., murders) in the streets.
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Postby Bhikkustan » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:50 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:He's literally having a war on crime where criminals get killed. I don't even think Trump is that wild.

Nothing wrong with that. He made it clear if you were caught dealing drugs you'd get shot. They had the chance to stop, but they didn't.

I know. He's one of my favourite politicians right now.

Can't wait to see some Americans complaining about "Muh Democracy!"
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Great Kauthar wrote:Nothing wrong with that. He made it clear if you were caught dealing drugs you'd get shot. They had the chance to stop, but they didn't.


No, he offered bounties for people to randomly play vigilante and conduct extrajudicial executions (i.e., murders) in the streets.


And humans have a way of cheating on bounties, like the Vietnamese did with the French bounty on rats.
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Postby Great Kauthar » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:54 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:Nothing wrong with that. He made it clear if you were caught dealing drugs you'd get shot. They had the chance to stop, but they didn't.


No, he offered bounties for people to randomly play vigilante and conduct extrajudicial executions (i.e., murders) in the streets.

That's even better. It creates jobs and combats crime.
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Postby Kodai Beruka » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:57 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
No, he offered bounties for people to randomly play vigilante and conduct extrajudicial executions (i.e., murders) in the streets.

That's even better. It creates jobs and combats crime.


This brings to mind the scene in Julius Caesar where Casca the Poet is killed because he shares a name with one of Caesar's Killers. What happens if innocents are killed just because they share a name (or resemble) a drug dealer?

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Postby Great Kauthar » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:59 pm

Kodai Beruka wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:That's even better. It creates jobs and combats crime.


This brings to mind the scene in Julius Caesar where Casca the Poet is killed because he shares a name with one of Caesar's Killers. What happens if innocents are killed just because they share a name (or resemble) a drug dealer?

Collateral damage. It happens, arrest the vigilante for manslaughter.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:01 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
No, he offered bounties for people to randomly play vigilante and conduct extrajudicial executions (i.e., murders) in the streets.

That's even better. It creates jobs and combats crime.


More like people will kill anyone they have a grudge against or even complete strangers then plant drugs on them to collect the bounty.
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Postby Kodai Beruka » Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:02 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:
Kodai Beruka wrote:
This brings to mind the scene in Julius Caesar where Casca the Poet is killed because he shares a name with one of Caesar's Killers. What happens if innocents are killed just because they share a name (or resemble) a drug dealer?

Collateral damage. It happens, arrest the vigilante for manslaughter.


Don't you mean Murder?

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Postby Augusta Pinochet » Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:31 pm

Something is wrong on the 7,641 islands of the Philippines and Rodrigo Duterte is taking out the trash!

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Postby Liriena » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:05 pm

I find the fact that such an erratic and disorganized person is head of state both sad and morbidly interesting. The more I read about him, the more he seems grossly unprepared, extremely irresponsible and just plain stupid.

He reminds me of Trump and Maduro.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:08 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:Collateral damage.

Excuses for butchery. How civilized.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:10 pm

Yeah. I wouldn't call Mr. "Pinochet-On-Drugs" exciting. 'Fucking terrifying' is more appropriate.
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