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Is Islam a Religion of Peace

Yes, Islam is a religion of peace
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It is neither peaceful or violent
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No, Islam is not a religion of peace
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Postby Skyviolia » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:04 am

The majority of religious scholars agree that the Abrahamic faiths are not inherently 'peaceful.' However, the doctrine of Islam has come under fire because of recent terrorism. So, NS, is Islam a religion of peace?

My opinion is that Islam is just like the two other Abrahamic religions (hence why we categorize them in the same category). They have many peaceful, tolerant, etc. verses and they have many intolerant, hateful and destructive verses. I think that it is neither 'peaceful' or 'violent.' It's what you make of it.
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Postby Nariterrr » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:07 am

I agree with you this. A Christian calling Islam a violent religion is like a kernel calling another kernel a kernel. Your both kernels.
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Postby The Soviet German Union » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:08 am

Obviously Islam isn't a Religion of Peace, but of War! In the last 200 year, Islam was the only religion to make holy "war". Nor Judaism, nor Chrisitanity, nor Buddhism, nor Sikhism, nor whatever large religion killed people in such numbers as Islam (in the last 200 years).
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:09 am

No it isn't.

Now Jainism, that's a religion of peace.
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Postby Nariterrr » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:09 am

The Soviet German Union wrote:Obviously Islam isn't a Religion of Peace, but of War! In the last 200 year, Islam was the only religion to make holy "war". Nor Judaism, nor Chrisitanity, nor Buddhism, nor Sikhism, nor whatever large religion killed people in such numbers as Islam (in the last 200 years).

Not true. Adolf Hitler, a Christian killed six million people and he was deep in Christianity.
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Postby Community Values » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:10 am

Nariterrr wrote:I agree with you this. A Christian calling Islam a violent religion is like a kernel calling another kernel a kernel. Your both kernels.


Neither are inherently violent. Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people. Religion isn't violent, people are.
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Postby Minzerland » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:11 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:No it isn't.

Now Jainism, that's a religion of peace.

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Postby Minzerland » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:11 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:No it isn't.

Now Jainism, that's a religion of peace.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:11 am

Nariterrr wrote:
The Soviet German Union wrote:Obviously Islam isn't a Religion of Peace, but of War! In the last 200 year, Islam was the only religion to make holy "war". Nor Judaism, nor Chrisitanity, nor Buddhism, nor Sikhism, nor whatever large religion killed people in such numbers as Islam (in the last 200 years).

Not true. Adolf Hitler, a Christian killed six million people and he was deep in Christianity.


Hitler's religious views are far more complicated than that. In private he was described as hating Christianity.
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Postby Peoples Republic of the German States » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:11 am

Nariterrr wrote:
The Soviet German Union wrote:Obviously Islam isn't a Religion of Peace, but of War! In the last 200 year, Islam was the only religion to make holy "war". Nor Judaism, nor Chrisitanity, nor Buddhism, nor Sikhism, nor whatever large religion killed people in such numbers as Islam (in the last 200 years).

Not true. Adolf Hitler, a Christian killed six million people and he was deep in Christianity.


Wrong.

Hitler was NOT a Christian. He hated Christianity. If he made any public remarks in support of Christianity, that was because he was in public and would lie or obfuscate to appease a crowd at times. Hitler was opposed to atheism because he was a spiritual man: “atheism… is a return to the state of the animal…” (Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 59). But opposition to atheism doesn’t make anyone a Christian. Nazism was his religion, an authentic religion of his own creation (yes, life is SO much better when people create their own personal religions in a search for “authenticity,” ha).

Hitler’s Table Talk is a compilation of sayings by Hitler in private conversations that were recorded by other Nazis. It is a good source for what Hitler really thought.

“…the only way of getting rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61

“It’s Christianity that’s the liar. It’s in perpetual conflict with itself.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61

“In the long run, National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 6

“Kerrl, with the noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don’t believe the thing’s possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145

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Postby Nariterrr » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:11 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:No it isn't.

Now Jainism, that's a religion of peace.

Most scholars do agree Jainism is a religion of peace.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:13 am

Skyviolia wrote:The majority of religious scholars agree that the Abrahamic faiths are not inherently 'peaceful.' However, the doctrine of Islam has come under fire because of recent terrorism. So, NS, is Islam a religion of peace?

My opinion is that Islam is just like the two other Abrahamic religions (hence why we categorize them in the same category). They have many peaceful, tolerant, etc. verses and they have many intolerant, hateful and destructive verses. I think that it is neither 'peaceful' or 'violent.' It's what you make of it.

You don't think that the Abrahamic religions are in the same category because they share some relation to Abraham?
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Postby Nariterrr » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:13 am

Peoples Republic of the German States wrote:
Nariterrr wrote:Not true. Adolf Hitler, a Christian killed six million people and he was deep in Christianity.


Wrong.

Hitler was NOT a Christian. He hated Christianity. If he made any public remarks in support of Christianity, that was because he was in public and would lie or obfuscate to appease a crowd at times. Hitler was opposed to atheism because he was a spiritual man: “atheism… is a return to the state of the animal…” (Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 59). But opposition to atheism doesn’t make anyone a Christian. Nazism was his religion, an authentic religion of his own creation (yes, life is SO much better when people create their own personal religions in a search for “authenticity,” ha).

Hitler’s Table Talk is a compilation of sayings by Hitler in private conversations that were recorded by other Nazis. It is a good source for what Hitler really thought.

“…the only way of getting rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61

“It’s Christianity that’s the liar. It’s in perpetual conflict with itself.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61

“In the long run, National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 6

“Kerrl, with the noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don’t believe the thing’s possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145


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Yeah, he was pretty religous.
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Postby Merther » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:14 am

The question is : Is Islam a religion at all ?
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Postby Community Values » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:14 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:No it isn't.

Now Jainism, that's a religion of peace.


I tried to find violent Jainist, I came across the fact that Jainist fundamentalists would sweep the streets they walk on to not kill bugs by stepping on them. Wow.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:14 am

Merther wrote:The question is : Is Islam a religion at all ?


I mean, by all definitions yeah it kinda is,
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Postby Nariterrr » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:14 am

Merther wrote:The question is : Is Islam a religion at all ?

Definition of religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.


Yes.
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Community Values wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:No it isn't.

Now Jainism, that's a religion of peace.


I tried to find violent Jainist, I came across the fact that Jainist fundamentalists would sweep the streets they walk on to not kill bugs by stepping on them. Wow.


Hardcore pacifism man, I dunno how they do it sometimes.
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:15 am

Islam is not a “religion of peace”, but a “religion of law” that is “inherently concerned with governance and so political in tendency” - see Understanding Islamism, International Crisis Group 2005.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:16 am

Skyviolia wrote:The majority of religious scholars agree that the Abrahamic faiths are not inherently 'peaceful.' However, the doctrine of Islam has come under fire because of recent terrorism. So, NS, is Islam a religion of peace?


No it's not.
Just like any other organised religion. Organised religions are just political tools: they say whatever furthers the agenda of the moment.
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Postby Taiga Monarchy » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:16 am

If it's a religion of peace why did a man scream "Allahu Akbar" while shooting 49 homosexuals at Pulse?

If it's a religion of peace why did that man drive a truck through Nice to squash hundreds of civilians in the name of Islam?

If it's a religion of peace why are there suicide bombings everywhere in the name of Islam?

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Postby Crockerland » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:17 am

Nariterrr wrote:
The Soviet German Union wrote:Obviously Islam isn't a Religion of Peace, but of War! In the last 200 year, Islam was the only religion to make holy "war". Nor Judaism, nor Chrisitanity, nor Buddhism, nor Sikhism, nor whatever large religion killed people in such numbers as Islam (in the last 200 years).

Not true. Adolf Hitler, a Christian killed six million people and he was deep in Christianity.

No, he obviously wasn't.
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All religions are peaceful but it is man that twists religion into something violent and evil
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